Gender Discussion #111

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I wonder if old mate Manual and his friends would have sex with a massive unit of a bloke in a Temu wig and cracked foundation? Seeing as every heterosexual man is a raging homosexual at heart. Apparently.
Even for a man who believes a hole is a hole, there are limits. Colour matched foundation and a Jon Renau are the bare minimum.

I know for a fact that my husband wouldn't go near a TIM, boobs or no boobs, post or pre-op. He likes women, not a parody of women.
Your husband must have super powers if he can identify when post-op. If you're feeling brave, here's a transgender quiz for your husband. Which would he go near? Hypothetically of course because your husband would never stray.

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Usual casting from Channel 4 for upcoming Bake Off not one but two they/thems including one who has 2 partners.
 
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Even for a man who believes a hole is a hole, there are limits. Colour matched foundation and a Jon Renau are the bare minimum.



Your husband must have super powers if he can identify when post-op. If you're feeling brave, here's a transgender quiz for your husband. Which would he go near? Hypothetically of course because your husband would never stray.

Post op means nothing when you take away the obvious photoshopping. He likes goth looking women anyway like Pauley Perrette and Fairuza Balk.
Also he's too lazy to have an affair, this I know for a fact.
 
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I can see the TRA talking points are starting to come out! How predictable.

Also, if you think a single, highly-posed (and possibly edited) photo = passing, then think for a moment about the other subtle tells that women can see but men often don’t. It’s the height, build, shoulder width, head shape, gait, voice, and so on.

Whereas men think “that TW looks fuckable” and that’s it.
 
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I can see the TRA talking points are starting to come out! How predictable.

Also, if you think a single, highly-posed (and possibly edited) photo = passing, then think for a moment about the other subtle tells that women can see but men often don’t. It’s the height, build, shoulder width, head shape, gait, voice, and so on.

Whereas men think “that TW looks fuckable” and that’s it.
My thoughts exactly. We've gone from "educate me' to 'your husband wouldn't question a loon' with a photo of Rumer Willis thrown in amongst them because she happens to have a prominent jaw.
 
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My thoughts exactly. We've gone from "educate me' to 'your husband wouldn't question a loon' with a photo of Rumer Willis thrown in amongst them because she happens to have a prominent jaw.
It’s always the same. Faux innocence followed by a litany of TRA counter arguments that proves they weren’t so naive after all. I mean were all those photos in a folder ready to go? Rumer Willis as some kind of gotcha? A woman whose facial bone structure doesn’t meet typical beauty standards, ergo she looks like a man?
 
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I can see the TRA talking points are starting to come out! How predictable.

Also, if you think a single, highly-posed (and possibly edited) photo = passing, then think for a moment about the other subtle tells that women can see but men often don’t. It’s the height, build, shoulder width, head shape, gait, voice, and so on.
My thoughts exactly. We've gone from "educate me' to 'your husband wouldn't question a loon' with a photo of Rumer Willis thrown in amongst them because she happens to have a prominent jaw.
As I said in my original post, I'm in favour of you treating them as men regardless of how they look. The conversation shifted to claims that your husbands could identify male vs. female, hence, the photos. None of the photos are male, the photos are all female, but it isn't fun if you don't actually ask your husbands to pick out the male photos and then I get to do the grand reveal. If you say you are capable of identifying male vs. female, I believe you, although identifying only Rumer Willis as female does undermine your point somewhat, given that's famous model Yolanda Hadid and Lottie Moss who are both very female.

Whereas men think “that TW looks fuckable” and that’s it.
Yeah, that's my point.
 
How does a “straight man test” where every photo is a woman prove that straight men would have sex with an unusually feminine-looking trans woman?
 
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As I said in my original post, I'm in favour of you treating them as men regardless of how they look. The conversation shifted to claims that your husbands could identify male vs. female, hence, the photos. None of the photos are male, the photos are all female, but it isn't fun if you don't actually ask your husbands to pick out the male photos and then I get to do the grand reveal. If you say you are capable of identifying male vs. female, I believe you, although identifying only Rumer Willis as female does undermine your point somewhat, given that's famous model Yolanda Hadid and Lottie Moss who are both very female.



Yeah, that's my point.
I dont know who those people are, I just scanned it quickly and noticed Rumer.
In my defence, the amount of times I've seen a loon photoshopped to look feminine makes me wary, Take Lia whatever his name is, the swimmer and some other athlete calling himself Emma filtered to high heaven so the unsuspecting public think that they look like a lass.
My husband is busy watching lionesses terrorising people, he's not interested in tricks and bull.
 
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As I said in my original post, I'm in favour of you treating them as men regardless of how they look. The conversation shifted to claims that your husbands could identify male vs. female, hence, the photos. None of the photos are male, the photos are all female, but it isn't fun if you don't actually ask your husbands to pick out the male photos and then I get to do the grand reveal. If you say you are capable of identifying male vs. female, I believe you, although identifying only Rumer Willis as female does undermine your point somewhat, given that's famous model Yolanda Hadid and Lottie Moss who are both very female.



Yeah, that's my point.
No one said they thought the rest were men!! The poster just mentioned Rumer because she’s always being slated because of her jaw.. which is probably why you picked her. if you actually look at any of the Willis girls’ instas they are very feminine nothing like men at all.
 
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I see we are having a game of ‘Transgender Top Trumps’ again. It’s been a while.
Last time we were treated to photos of wispy bearded ‘transmen’ who ‘you’d never be able to tell’ were actually women.
Like last time, we shouldn’t have to point out that posed and filtered photos are not the same as being in the physical presence of a lumbering great specimen in lipstick and a frock but here we are.
 
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How does a “straight man test” where every photo is a woman prove that straight men would have sex with an unusually feminine-looking trans woman?
If he can't accurately pick out which people are male and which people are female then any statement that he would never go near a trans woman strains credulity. My entire point is, as maytoseptember summarised so succinctly, men are simple creatures, man see booby and man go boing. Men do not have some nuanced take on the width of shoulders relative to the sharpness of the jaw. Of course, if you ask a straight man, "would you have sex with a man dressed as a woman?" he would say ew no, I'm not gay but send him off to Thailand, get a beer in him and see what happens when he encounters a ladyboy who has better bits than he has ever encountered before. The horny man does not consider.

Katie Price, she is more artificial than even the most surgeried transwoman, yet so many men (inexplicably) find Katie Price attractive, go to any pub in England and the most masculine men would be falling over themselves to bag Katie Price. What's the difference between Katie Price and a post-op trans woman? I recall seeing an article that said she had a new tina put in, although typing that out, it sounds like I got tricked by a fake headline.

A better example is Sister Hong. Look at pictures of Sister Hong (although be warned, it is horrifying): he is so obviously a man that it is beyond comprehension that any human could think that he is a woman. And yet, he tricked thousands of men into having sex with him and bringing him gifts. I mean, even I, someone banging the drum of the depravity of man, cannot understand how any person had sex with Sister Hong, that's a line even I wouldn't cross. Many of the men were attractive, married, they had no conceivable reason to fall for the obvious scam, and yet they did, because we, men, are inexplicable. I don't recommend it but there are leaked videos from Sister Hong's escapades, it ain't pretty.

Again, I'm not arguing that trans women look like women and therefore should be treated like women by women. I am only saying that straight men are a lot less discerning than you think and "ew no I would never have sex with a trans woman" says nothing of how we would act if there was a passing trans woman in front of us trying to have sex with us (even if they were obviously not passing to you, a woman with a brain).
 
Ok you’ve jumped the shark now. This “What's the difference between Katie Price and a post-op trans woman?” is so offensive I can’t even.
 
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