BIB - and yet they didn't have a problem with this when it was aimed at people like JKR, so I have no sympathy for them.
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I always suspected Hyde was a terf. She's way too astute to not be. There's a couple of things they've discussed on The Rest is Entertainment where she's given clues as to where her thoughts lie.
She's the only thing that makes me regret ending my Guardian sub.
The system was created by human nature, the two can't be de-coupled. My fundamental view is that the modern incarnation of male sexual drive, slavery/capitalism, and female reaction to oppression is trans. The picture is complicated but includes your points for sure.
Thus proving the old adage that you can say or imply any insult you want to about someone - as long as it isn't true.I was watching online reviews of the new 'Silence of the Lambs' play and the main actor, John Partridge (used to be on Eastenders) said they'd obviously had to change aspects so as not to offend 'our transgender friends and that community'
So Buffalo Bill no longer wants a woman suit, but wants to get back into his mother's womb. Or something.
Male chest secretions.
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My local town had Pride yesterday, and I caught the action between 6ish and 8. Saw 10 “acts” (christ) on stage. TWO were women - the singer of a decent three-piece band, and a “duck the Tories” style poet. The rest? Massive blokes in sparkly dresses.
Oh, and a… terrible… drag singer murdering their way through Proud Mary and other such shout-along songs… who turns out… was FOURTEEN YEARS OLD.
Oh, and a… terrible… drag singer murdering their way through Proud Mary and other such shout-along songs… who turns out… was FOURTEEN YEARS OLD.
Well then she should come out and say it with her whole chest. I can’t stand these people in the public eye who coyly hint at their allegiances and let people like Glinner take all the flak
I don’t fully understand the meaning of your second sentence but I guess my issue with blaming every human evil on a “system” (a seemingly common approach to everything these days), in your theory the systems of capitalism and modernity, overlook the fact that ducked up and abusive sexual expression and practice is evidenced in all sorts of societies and time periods that are not capitalist and / or are pre-modern.
I’d also argue that in current year, the most brutal female oppression is occurring in cultures and countries which are neither capitalist nor modern eg Afghanistan, DRC, North Korea, Pakistan, Bangladesh, CAR, Sudan, South Sudan, Burundi, Somalia.
I'm not overlooking, I'm just bringing it into a modern, technological context. Against the Machine by Paul Kingsnorth is a useful explanation.
While in theory I agree with you but being perfectly honest if you (general you, not specific you) were in danger of losing one of your income streams and potentially your social circle would you speak out? I'm not in danger of losing my job but I still have to be very careful what I say and how I say it simply because my role is looking after the wellbeing of all our staff and my oldest friend has a trans sibling.
I know the thread’s moved on but I wonder if he was uncomfortable with having an effeminate gay son, particularly being so masculine himself, that he’s more comfortable with him being trans. I don’t think this is a case of the mum being solely to blame imo.
Edited to add this is about Kai Schreiber.
Jolyon even sounds like Webberley, same cadence and like he's trying to talk with his mouth closed. And the finger jabbing.
Yes I agree, working women can’t speak out for that reason (I mean some did like Maya Forstater who then went through hell). (Also depends on the social circle tbh. The working and lower middle classes have very little time for this trans tit, although some of their daughters do get caught up in the cult and that’s a big problem.)
But Marina Hyde is not like you and me. She’s rich, posh, upper middle class bordering on aristocratic as I understand her background. She’s written books, done TV, had a long career with the Guardian where she doesn’t even have to be a journalist, just wrote 500 words of snooty supercilious snark every week (as I recall it).
In the Guardian’s favourite language and framing, that of Progressivist Identitarianism, Marina has Privilege, Social Capital and belongs to the Cultural Hegemony. This, according to Progressivist Bystander Theory (which the Guardian was very hot on back in 2020) means that she is obliged to speak out on behalf of Marginalised Communities, in this case vulnerable women threatened by the trans cult.
Come on Marina love! You’ve made bank talking the talk for years - now let’s see you walk!
Do you think she will? I would hope so, otherwise it might start looking like Progressivism is mere status signalling rather than a cohesive belief system which people actually adhere to, and of course, that simply can’t be true.
Shocked but not surprised. I hope it's mainly women turning away from Nike.
He's a gay man who's made money out of skin walking women and watching him prancing like that makes me sick. He also looks like he has an ED which is not something anyone should be promoting.
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I've started a new job but I saw all the staff badges yesterday on a magnetic whiteboard and they all have pronouns- does anyone know how to possibly deal with the work conversation on it? Cause I worry if I don't partake they'll call me bigoted?
*Raises hand proudly*
I haven't bought anything from Nike, especially since they ditched that athlete when she got pregnant.
...I also haven't actually been doing any exercise - but it still counts, right...?
I haven't bought anything from Nike, especially since they ditched that athlete when she got pregnant.
...I also haven't actually been doing any exercise - but it still counts, right...?
@MsMadamSecretary - you could just say something along the lines of "I don't really mind how anyone refers to me when I'm not there". Don't make a big deal of it. It's ok to say you're not happy divulging them and that you worry making a big thing of pronouns could force someone to feel pressurised into stating their's when they aren't ready to. Which could make somebody in the process of deciding to transition very uncomfortable.
Are you a bigot? If the answer's yes, then it doesn't really matter if they call you one because you already know you're one. If you're not a bigot, then it doesn't really matter if they call you one because you know you're not one.
I've always just managed to avoid the pronoun stuff. If I've ever been in a "let's go round the table and give our names and pronouns" (and it's only happened once) I just say my name.
Are you a bigot? If the answer's yes, then it doesn't really matter if they call you one because you already know you're one. If you're not a bigot, then it doesn't really matter if they call you one because you know you're not one.
I've always just managed to avoid the pronoun stuff. If I've ever been in a "let's go round the table and give our names and pronouns" (and it's only happened once) I just say my name.
All I can say is bloody good enough for them.
Caught up with 2 sets of friends yesterday after a long time & the conversation ( with their husbands too) got round to trans and Womens Rights
All good talking, gratifying & honest - and all could be congratulated on common sense & they were all saying what I wanted to , but was pipped to the post because they all feel the same way exactly.
What a great convo I was so pleased & relieved
All good talking, gratifying & honest - and all could be congratulated on common sense & they were all saying what I wanted to , but was pipped to the post because they all feel the same way exactly.
What a great convo I was so pleased & relieved