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I didn’t know if I should post this here or on the Preston Davey thread but there is something very wrong when fostering agencies are talking about fostering and people’s sex lives. The aim of fostering agencies for vulnerable children in care is to find them homes where they are prioritised. Not tick some DEI.

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Kids toy bricks, how apt. I've lost a few brain cells reading that. ick
 
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Another good article
 
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This ruling is highly significant and helpful for us and any challenges re the FWS ruling. Trans folks and their allies always ignore the rights of others i.e. women, when pushing for whatever they consider to be trans rights. This ruling makes it clear that member states are entitled to take into account other people's rights when looking at the scope of trans rights.
 
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This ruling is highly significant and helpful for us and any challenges re the FWS ruling. Trans folks and their allies always ignore the rights of others i.e. women, when pushing for whatever they consider to be trans rights. This ruling makes it clear that member states are entitled to take into account other people's rights when looking at the scope of trans rights.
stupid bloody Freddie McConnell I expect. A woman who got a GRC and then immediately got pregnant. She doesn’t have any kind of dysphoria. She’s just mentally unwell
 
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I’ve seen comments on a very popular local FB group. The admin have often expressed GC views and it’s very much the sort of group that isn’t afraid of speaking out against all sorts though it was originally about traffic issues and speed trapping. (Anyone who lives in the area will know exactly which group I mean). There’s often reports of people waiting days for police to turn up for break ins and the like. There’s frequently replies, that if you want the police, just misgender someone and they’ll be straight round. I know it’s tongue in cheek, but that seems to be what things are coming to. Policing opinions and controlling society rather than dealing with actual crimes.
 
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AMAZING!!

As one comment says, we won't be wrong to call Sophie Molly a lunatic, Mr and Euan.
This bit is rather lovely:

" 12. The publication did not consider that referring to the complainant as a “bloke”, or “Mr” was inaccurate. It said the Supreme Court clarified in 2025 that for the purposes of discrimination law, the words 'sex', 'woman' and 'man' mean (and were always intended to mean) biological sex, biological woman and biological man respectively. It said the columnist stated a matter of biological fact and reflected the position in law. "

As is this:

" 16. In regard to the description of the complainant as a “bloke” and “Mr” the publication did not accept this was a prejudicial or pejorative reference to the complainant’s gender identity or sex. It said the article made no reference to the complainant’s gender identity and that the Supreme Court had clarified that biological sex is determined at birth, is immutable and of “foundational importance” for the purposes of the Equality Act 2010. It said gender reassignment remains a protected characteristic and those legal protections prevent direct or indirect discrimination. However, it said that those legal protections did not, mandate the use of particular pronouns or forbid all reference to biological sex and did not dictate the language an opinion columnist may use. It said that the complainant had set out his personal conviction that the complainant, in bringing a frivolous, trivial complaint that sought to curb the rights of others in the absence of any real harm, had abused the hard-won protections enshrined in equalities law. "
 
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People who menstruate? Are you bleeping kidding me?
This is an interesting issue. We've discussed at work whether we can offer menstruation leave. We came to the conclusion that actually we could be putting ourselves in danger of a discrimination case. If a newly pregnant women applied for a promotion and didn't get it, they could claim that we'd been monitoring her menstruation leave and suspected she was pregnant, which is why she didn't get the job. (I don't have time to do my actual job nevermind tracking the periods of all childbearing age women in the company - but it is a risk)

How many blokes in frocks would claim to be on their time of the month if this was implemented? It's a grifters charter.

Anyway flag watch in that there London*: loads of progress flags but delighted to report that it appears to be the old fashioned pride flag on top of Tower Bridge.

(* It's still hotter that the bleeping sun here and it's offending my northern sensibilities)
 
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There would also be an argument for women who don’t menstruate feeling discriminated against, like I have a coil but for 36 days extra leave I’d take it out 😂
 
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There would also be an argument for women who don’t menstruate feeling discriminated against, like I have a coil but for 36 days extra leave I’d take it out 😂
I have PCOS, don't need any days off since I'm on the progesterone pill; some actual research into women's hormonal issues instead of just shrugs would be more useful.
 
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People who menstruate?

You mean WOMEN, yes?

Actually, let's have a game. Who can find the most hideous and dehumanising way of not saying woman that TRAs and their fellow travellers come up with. For me, it's always been "non-men" as if there's men, and these... things that look a bit like men but aren't them. Ugh. However, a new challenger appears. I recently stumbled across I think a sex education webshite which referred to "muliebrous persons."

Pass.

The.

Sickbags.

Also, about this trans conversion therapy thing. TRAs are seething on Reddit also because they think that evil terves are going to report them for trying to tell people they may be trans. Hmmmm. Gives me ideas.
 
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This is an interesting issue. We've discussed at work whether we can offer menstruation leave. We came to the conclusion that actually we could be putting ourselves in danger of a discrimination case. If a newly pregnant women applied for a promotion and didn't get it, they could claim that we'd been monitoring her menstruation leave and suspected she was pregnant, which is why she didn't get the job. (I don't have time to do my actual job nevermind tracking the periods of all childbearing age women in the company - but it is a risk)

How many blokes in frocks would claim to be on their time of the month if this was implemented? It's a grifters charter.

Anyway flag watch in that there London*: loads of progress flags but delighted to report that it appears to be the old fashioned pride flag on top of Tower Bridge.

(* It's still hotter that the bleeping sun here and it's offending my northern sensibilities)
It would concern me too for many reasons. Surely it means employers would avoid taking on women of childbearing age just to avoid the hassle? Aside from the monitoring, what about women with irregular periods. It would be impossible to predict when they would be off, risks of being short staffed. As an owner of a small business, it would be a nightmare.
As a woman who has had life long irregular periods , it would make planning when I would be available impossible. It could mean having to discuss your cycle with creepy pervy men.
I think it could back fire easily on real women.
Meanwhile, roosters with frocks would lap it up as affirmation.
Then again it is the bloody Greens
 
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There would also be an argument for women who don’t menstruate feeling discriminated against, like I have a coil but for 36 days extra leave I’d take it out 😂
You wouldn’t need to, employers have no right to know about your chosen method of contraception, you could still take the leave as you are able to menstruate. Although if you were found out ( although I have no idea how) you might have to make up the time taken.
What about pregnant women? Do they lose the right to this leave whilst pregnant? Or could they accrue it whilst on maternity leave and tack it on to the end? If a full year is taken then that is 36 extra days, or 7 working weeks plus 1 day. It may also force a pregnancy announcement before the mother feels ready. What if she has an early miscarriage, does she have to share the news so the leave starts again?
Would peri menopausal woman have flexibility on taking this leave to allow for the changes in their cycles, periods turn up at will with no warning during those years.
How about post menopausal women? Employers have no right to know when menstruation ceases, and it could count as age discrimination. Or would they also allow menopausal leave to deal with the myriad of health conditions that menopause can cause?
What about others in those work places? And the effect on female dominated arenas such as childcare where safeguarding ratios are paramount?
And that is before the issues surrounding infertility, cancer survivors, PCOS suffers and any other condition that can cause a lack or irregularity of periods.
This has so clearly not been thought about in any real sense, the Greens just think it sounds good and makes them the party of Women's Rights, which is about as far from the truth as it is possible to get. There does need to be more awareness and support around women’s health in the work place but this sort of glib nonsense it not in any way helpful.

Edited for appalling spelling!
 
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Rather than the government instituting menstruation leave I'd rather they did a better job funding (and managing) the health services that provide care for (and carry out research into improving the treatment of) PCOS, Endo etc!
 
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It's totally unworkable & they're just proposing these policies for clicks, just like abolishing all private landlords, benefits for illegal immigrants and legalising all drugs. The party are bonkers & not living in the real world at all.
 
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There would also be an argument for women who don’t menstruate feeling discriminated against, like I have a coil but for 36 days extra leave I’d take it out 😂
I was thinking along the same lines. 🤣

How the hell would they know whether or not women are menstruating! And of course all the men dressed as women would claim to be anyway.
What a stupid fcuking idea.
 
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