Gender Discussion #108

[Metropolis]

 

[Ilovemusic]

Saw this on another thread...

 

[LloydsBoosters]

I pop in and out of the current thread cos I’m still making my way through all the previous ones. I’m on #73 at the moment. I wish there was a way we could all meet and discuss in person, this is the only place I see multiple opinions the same as mine.

 

[Mismatched Pegs]

I've never understood the need for the rainbow lanyards within the NHS. If the only way LGB(and I'm even going to add the T here) can feel safe in a healthcare setting is by seeing someone with a rainbow around their neck, the NHS has far bigger problems than is acknowledged.

If you work in healthcare it shouldn't matter what a patient's politics, sexuality, age or even criminal history is, you treat them to the best of you abilities with dignity and care. Doesn't matter how you personally feel about them. It's your job. And sometimes that will be hard - a racist thug verbally abusing an A&E doctor from Uganda, treating a head wound obtained on a far right demo, still deserves treatment (and I think healthcare staff need greater protections from patients)

No one should be displaying their political leaning at work. I'm private sector and we have a casual dress code but we're allowed nothing that makes any kind of political statement. I work for quite a "woke" (for want of a better word) company but we have clients and we don't want to upset them or lose business. If you're in a tax payer funded, public sector role you absolutely shouldn't be allowed to demonstrate your politics while at work (unless you work in a political role - even then, politicians need to act in the interests of all the constituents and shouldn't be showing bias towards specific sectors of the community)

Sorry that was much longer than I thought it was going to be.
TLDR: show up, do your job, leave your whole self at home.

 

[DoraMaar]

One good outcome of the Murrell case in Scotland is that Nicola Sturgeon now knows what a man is . She's quoted in the SundayTimes as saying she should not be 'held responsible for the wrongdoing of men',

 

[cokeyoakey]

https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...ple-segregation-parliament-supreme-court-ehrc

Heartbreaking article in the guardian today. Apparently there's been a shared understanding of the law for decades until now. Really?? Shared by who? The trans community? Main worries are toilets (as always) and being placed on a mens ward in hospital (more worried about his own discomfort than the actual womens on the ward that he'd rather be on). Also bangs on about how the government can stop this at any time! Is that even true? I thought the law was the law & the Supreme Court was the final stop for this?

Yeah, mate, we don't want you in our spaces.

 

[goldshoes]

The Baroness giving the FBU what for on the law

 

[Dinate]

I read the guy's response in a very bad Scottish accent

 

[Vanelope]

One trans person can cause an entire organisation to cower through fear of being cancelled or called a bigot. There are always handmaidens who run around being kind and threatening others for wrongthink. All it takes is someone brave enough to say that they don’t agree and other people find their voice and also stand up and be brave. No one believes trans women are women, they just think they have to because the loudest voices say they do.

 

[MaineCoonMama]

I've said this before but imagine the same happened with the smoking ban if pubs and clubs were 'waiting for guidance' because it inconvenienced people?
No worries, if you don't want to miss a minute of the band you've been waiting years to see or you can't handle the smell of men and their feet just light up, you're safe here.

Dumbarses.

 

[MaineCoonMama]

Imagine living in a world where men treated women as well as they treat men dressed as women.

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

WTAF

Avoided jail because it would be difficult for him?

I'm sorry - isn't that pretty much the point of jail?

And as for being at risk . . . young men are at risk, "pretty" men are at risk, disabled men are at risk, mentally ill men are at risk, small men are at risk, men with mental health problems are at risk - this is jail.

But let's not have a pervert placed at risk. Let's put children at risk instead.

 

[Shackmaheid]

He remembers a trans couple who approached him at a book signing and told him they were scared to leave their house.

Hmmm.

How could he tell ? Don't they all pass ?

 

[Dinate]

And talking of gaslighting, this woman is beyond evil. I truly hope that there's a reckoning for her and the damage she continues to cause to vulnerable young people.

 

[Rowling]

As a gay man , I have second hand embarrassment for these companies jumping on the pride bandwagon by whipping a rainbow onto their logos and tat they are flogging. Especially as Pride has been taken away from gay men , lesbians and bisexuals and has been highjacked by the trans movement and trans is now the “headline act” of any Pride event.

 

[maytoseptember]

I know my response here will make many think I'm old fashioned and prudish but I've always found the idea of anal penetrative sex absolutely disgusting.

I accept that gay men do it (and they can get on with it if that's what floats their boat) but why is this being promoted as normal for heterosexuals these days? This is being forced on young women who probably think they can't say no because everyone else is doing it.

I'm guessing that someone will pop up to tell me that I'm missing out here, but there's no way I'll ever allow a man to shove his cock up my poo hole

Why is it being promoted?

Porn and “sex positive”, “no kink shaming!” culture.

Porn is normalising so many sexual acts that offer next to no pleasure for women - only harm. Anal sex, strangling etc. And young people today end up thinking it’s totally normal and expected.

 

[ButtonDownTheHutches]

Drag is not a ‘gender’, a sexuality or any other type of protected characteristic. It’s just a man pretending to be a woman so people will laugh at him in a comedy setting. I find it so odd how they’ve been elevated into some kind of priest caste for such trivial shite. If you say anything about a drag queen on social media that isn’t gushing and slavish worship about how glam they are you can literally hear your ‘progressive’ friends seething through the screen.

This is what I find so odd about drag queens being vaunted as evidence of ‘inclusivity’. It’s purely a performance genre

Maybe the BBC should start wheeling out trapeze artistes or contortionists to comment on how they’ve been personally affected by various random news stories. That would be quite fun

 

[emmer_moans]

'Trans' folk want to be 'heard' and given special treatment, meanwhile, look at how women's health conditions are described by the health profession too often... This came up on Facebook for me.

 

[ButtonDownTheHutches]

Or black and white minstrels? Why is one celebrated and the other (rightly) seen as insulting and degrading?

For the same reason that Rachel Dolzeal is lambasted as a heinous disgrace, but Bob from accounts is lauded for his stunning bravery when he turns up to work in a polyester babydoll dress and a cheap wig.

 

[Vanelope]

She shouldn’t have accepted that award, she should have left it for women who admit that they are such. What a pick me