Gender Discussion #108

[ButtonDownTheHutches]

They know how to play the game. Honestly also check the harddrives of the JUDGES who worry about these pedoofiles' safety in prison over the safety of children. CORRUPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have the judges never heard of solitary confinement if safety in the general prison population is an issue?!

It's fucking ludicrous: a man is convicted of a crime of sexual depravity, but the public expression of his multifaceted sexual depravity means he avoids jail because it wouldn't be a pleasant experience for him. Absolute piss-take.

 

[Ekathrina]

The amount of public or corporate money that gets wasted by painting things garish colours is really quite astounding. NHS on its knees and struggling with underfunding? Let’s waste a load of money painting a corridor with rainbows! Rail fares through the roof and trains overcrowded to unsafe levels? Let’s paint a train in ‘Pride’ livery!

 

[Mismatched Pegs]

If you don't want to share male provision, do what women have had to do - raise a bit of dosh and build your own toilets, rape crisis centres, domestic violence units, "menopause" support groups, "breastfeeding" groups and so on. We did it, and so can you

This, a thousand times this. I think we've had these things for so long that a lot of people (especially young women) have no concept of the fact that they were fought for and provided by women who recognised the need for them. I think a lot of people think that the government just made these things available because they were needed. No, women campaigned and financed a lot of them - DVUs started as women taking "battered wives" from their community into their own homes. Transpeople want something? Fucking fight for it, finance it and build it for yourselves, fuck knows you get enough funding. But, yeah I guess it's much easier to just take from others. Fucking parasites.

 

[Glaschelle]

I've seen all the stuff about women with breast cancer complaining about Lush's advert regarding trans men's scars and I'm genuinely appalled. When you think this world can't get any worse, it does.

I really feel as a women we've lost. There's too many 'be kind' hand maidens. Normal women are now outnumbered.

But there's one thing I'm sure of. These transwomen can access every women's space they want, they can access every women's health screening they want, they can be included in every women's maternity group they want, but they'll NEVER be women. And everyone knows they're not women. Even that "Dr" Helen person knows they're not women.

And that's what kill them!!! They think this validation will quieten that wee voice in their head that tells them the truth. But it won't. Cos deep down they know they're living a lie.

 

[Metropolis]

Isn’t her dad a drag/cross dresser.

Here is Denise at her hen do with her dad in 2013

 

[Mismatched Pegs]

It serves the cunt right.

It does. But, the more the TRAs behave like this, the more people like Radcliffe (who I suspect just isn't one of life's great thinkers and has genuinely supported trans rights because - in his eyes - it's the right thing to do) wake up and go "eh?! But I've supported them. Why have they turned on me?" Then they start to look a little more critically at the way JKR and others who speak out are treated, and make their merry way to the top of the mountain. They learn that nothing but 100% compliance is ever enough. There can be no questioning of the doctrine.

 

[Metropolis]

John Mann, the government’s independent advisor an anti-semitism, has carried out a review examining anti-semitism and other forms of racism in the NHS. One of the recommendations in his report is around the wearing of political badges and slogans on NHS uniforms.

These paragraphs are from the report

The chief executive of NHS England, said: "We accept all of the recommendations in Lord Mann's review and as a leadership community, we will act swiftly to implement them.”

I know the report was specifically looking at racism and anti-semitism, but it seems to me that the progress flag is also a ‘political identifier’ and I’m wondering whether these recommendations could be used to challenge the overt use of this symbol in the NHS. As I’ve said before, part of my local hospital building is painted with a huge progress flag mural which is visible as you approach the main entrance. There is also a flag pole outside which flies the progress flag 365 days a year.

As a woman who does not subscribe to gender ideology, I do perceive a bias against me and my protected beliefs. I want NHS branding to return to how it was in the 90s/2000s when I worked for them - blue and white logos and lanyards with no other agenda.

NHS staff should be banned from wearing political badges, report recommends

The recommendation is one of several from Lord Mann, whose review examined antisemitism within the organisation.

www.bbc.co.uk

Lord Mann review of antisemitism and other forms of racism in the NHS and healthcare regulatory system

www.gov.uk

 

[MaineCoonMama]

How ridiculous going to the Fuzz because a mother calls their child by their proper name. It should be logged as wasting police time, ffs.

 

[Weebles Wobble]

I think it was not for "relationship" purposes.
And then he got his arse handed to him

Even "transwomen" struggle seeing other men as women!

 

[Scotch Mist]

I'm sick to death of hearing about everyone's politics and affiliations and I feel irritated when I see people at work demonstrating their activism with daft badges and lanyards.
I'm still a member of UNISON even though I can't stand them. I can't go into the reasons why at present but they are entirely financially motivated so I've got to stick it out for a while longer.
Every time there's a ballot I read the candidates promo blurb and make a point of only voting for people who talk about improving workers conditions and are not bleating on about their other pet causes. It certainly makes it easier for me to allocate a vote. Recently some twat wrote a page and a half of such drivel virtue signalling for trans rights and talking about how much they were against the far right and attended rallies to support Palestine obviously under the delusion that everyone thinks the same. These people appear to have no awareness that not all union members are on board with all of this and that many who are members probably have no intention of voting for Labour at the next election.

 

[FourSeasonSoupObsessive]

Christ this is shocking. This bloke sent terrifying threatening emails to 3 girls schools saying he was going to kill all the students and specifically saying that he was targeting them because they were TERFs and the BBC don’t mention either of these facts in their reporting

Jesus Christ! That’s horrifying. He doesn’t think he’s a bloke, of course, not that you;d know that from the BBC report. She is of course a stunning brave lady, standing resolute in the face of a genocidial rampage led by schoolgirls. Wonder why the BBC is colluding in deadnaming? Or is he just CriminalGender now, so all bets are off, à la Sturgeon?

I‘m so sick of this. Imagine the ructions if a woman targeted trans people like this?

Edit: I hadn’t clocked that it was in Southport, for actual fucks sake. Threatening schoolgirls in Southport Is a really special kind of evil. I feel sick.

EDIT: sorry for all the different edits, my brain is scrambled this morning.

 

[emmer_moans]

WTAF

They know how to play the game. Honestly also check the harddrives of the JUDGES who worry about these pedoofiles' safety in prison over the safety of children. CORRUPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have the judges never heard of solitary confinement if safety in the general prison population is an issue?!

 

[Mismatched Pegs]

I saw a sign that said protect the dolls held by a staff member

Can I suggest you purchase a fuckton of haunted ceramic dolls, paint their eyes white and leave them on the allies' desk? They won't be quite so fucking keen then.

 

[Funny_bunny]

Dawn French . She was so close to getting it at one point, but was obviously ‘re-educated’ back into place. Now she’s just a bot

I cannot stand Dawn French. What is it with the way she talks in these video clips with all the face pulling and ums and ahs, and the weird rictus grinning? Another luvvie handmaiden .

 

[Weebles Wobble]

The Scottish Court of Session has just ruled that providing multi-user unisex toilets in a primary school amounted to indirect sex discrimination against female pupils.



Hurrah for JKR, the parents and everyone involved!



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[Innocent Hamster]

That thing that never happens has happened again. But some of the comments are gold.

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I love the comment"Jessica" spelt with a silent Dave

 

[petitspois]

I have sympathy for teenagers going through a difficult period who end up choosing to question their gender but no one else in this mess. The second I come across someone who says they are trans or that they have a trans family member I mentally switch off as they’re either mentally unwell, enabling or a predator.

 

[Innocent Hamster]

I refuse to use the cutesy term ‘top surgery’. I always say ‘irreversible double mastectomy’.

As someone who had a double mas due to breast cancer, I don't find the scars something to be proud of, but was very relieved when they faded.

And the term 'top surgery' is just denial of reality.

 

[Sweetcouchpotato]

This is from Reddit, so not exactly a reliable source. But it appears that hormones and surgeries seem to be getting more difficult to obtain.

According to Google, funding for phalloplasty (the so called "bottom surgery" for TIF) was cut in 2021, resulting in a drastic reduction in hospitals offering this. Reddit says that one of these hospitals has just announced it will no longer perform this procedure leaving only one hospital doing these.
Google says: "phalloplasty is centrally commissioned by NHS England and primarily performed in London at facilities". This sounds like more than one hospital, but maybe all in London?

(In contrast, vaginoplasty ("bottom surgery" for TIM) is offered by 3 different NHS hospitals. I believe that phalloplasty is a more complex surgery which might explain the difference).

Both surgeries have a very high rate of long-term complications and - IMO - the lawyers are going to have a field day.

Hormones are often prescribed under shared care. Shared care is an arrangement where a hospital consultant decides which medication is appropriate and the patient's GP then takes over the regular prescribing. Sometimes the GP can make changes to the dosage but for any significant alterations the Consultant is involved.

According to Reddit, increasing numbers of GP's are refusing to take over prescribing hormones, stating that they don't have the necessary training or experience to monitor the patients.

Hmm.
Maybe this is true
...or maybe they don't agree with giving cross-sex hormones
...or maybe they are covering their backs.

Or maybe a mixture of the above.

And finally, Reddit also says that TIF are increasingly having difficulty finding a GP surgery who will administer testosterone injections.

Whatever is happening, if the threat of lawsuits is making the medical profession nervous - good!

My mum.has recently said goodbye to three friends who died in their early 70s and all of them said they'd chosen not to push for more treatment but accept death for multiple reasons but each mentioned "not wanting to be a drain on the NHS". Lovely women who spent a lifetime contributing to society, being mums and grans, and didn't want to cost the NHS too much money, while these just demand ever more money spent on unnecessary surgery and revising the unnecessary surgery etc. The threat of "if you don't let me I'll kill myself" is something that should be met with an offer of therapy, not surgery/hormones. Emotional blackmail isn't supposed to end with the blackmailers desired result - it's a kind of terrorism really.

 

[Metropolis]

More use of children as pawns in the advocation of a dangerous ideology. Drag shouldn’t be anywhere near fostering vulnerable kids. It has literally nothing to do with children and certainly does not promote their welfare. I actually think some safeguarding services have lost their minds.