Gabriella Lindley #9 Nice one Gabby, that singing made my baby cry.

[SpookyLumberjack]

Alfie was secretly filming them when they arrived home (but we (GGers at the time) thought by Zoe’s reaction, it looked like she was possibly in on the joke). As soon as gabby twigs she’s being filmed full-length she scurries away from view, quite sad really...

I just watched some of an old video where they go to Waitrose, Zoe films herself in Gabbie's full length mirror and walks closer to her reflection, Gabbie runs out of the way so she can't be seen full length too.

It IS really sad.

 

[Doc]

So, I've read through every single comment back to #1 over the last few days brought on via intense lockdown boredom. I've had a great time, even though I oscillate between quite liking Gabby's content and finding it beige and repetitive.

Nobody asked for it but my opinion is this: Gabby has chosen a career that allows for her hermitry and anxiety to be left unchallenged, and to control her life/project a sanitised version of it out to the masses in order to seek validation (and it even pays her bills!). The constant working on her body/diet/make up etc is the same thing. She wants to be perfect, because if she's perfect, then she won't have to worry about the emotional pain of dealing with bullying/inadequacy or made to feel so by said bullies. It's an ego trap - the desire to feel special. I will go more into this in a bit...

Regarding her high level of introversion: Someone high on the introversion scale would not want to be a west end actress/singer. In reality, they wouldn't want to be anywhere near it. Too draining! So why that dream? She has a good voice, a talent, and wishes for the praise and validation it may bring. Gabby's dream of being on the west end is fantasy-enactment of being special, focused on, and expressing her inner self to the world as powerful. We all have those fantasies in one way or another, she's not bad or unique for wanting this. Gabby wants to be special because special means focus and attention in a positive way which will compensate for the damage done by bullying. Special also means you have power, and if you have power, you can judge and punish those deemed below you if you so wish (the bullies). She is an INFJ in MBTI, this is a very common personality trait in INFJ - the judgemental juxtaposed with the painfully sensitive. With power may come a feeling of safety and safety is the key word here. Anxious people often do not feel safe, people who hermit a lot stay in to stay safe. People who don't socialise very often don't feel safe around others and avoid judgment...

This is all quite interesting because in avoiding the therapy and work of radical self-acceptance and challenging her anxiety/past having to deal with horrible bullying and self-esteem issues resulting from that, she has created a life in which now the wider world has become her bully (...these forums/threads are the evidence. No judgment! Just ...that's what it is). She repeats the same cycles, strives hard for perfection and her idealised fantasy of life, and refuses to accept herself as a normal human being since she was - and now is as an adult - constantly rejected and judged for being so whenever someone spots a plate left on a bin lid or a cat litter tray that may need a little clean. Ultimately, she gives up on any project or theme of the moment because it's hard to keep going what is inauthentic. Striving to be perfect is exhausting on multiple levels, most people don't keep this going and the ones who do often become pathologically driven (you see this in certain ED's, compulsions etc).

Gabby self-sabotages due to trauma from childhood bullying in the most incremental phases of self-identity development; a lot of people do. I wonder how many people in these threads have been bullied, and that's why they dislike her to the level of committing life-wasting minutes to such a discussion. Possibly indulging in 'hating' what they perceive to be as a weaker version of themselves back in the day and projecting those uncomfortable feelings onto her...

She's judgemental, for sure. Why? Because she is extremely critical and judgemental of herself, more so than anyone else could ever be. And because her inner dialogue is that way, she thinks it's normal to project that outward. Chicken and egg. She's lives a large chunk of her life online, and due to the constant barrage of love/hate messages, that's how her inner model of herself will be right now. She's also judgemental because she's rejecting every imperfection, because if she doesn't, in any small way she allows it that may allow her to be linked to imperfection. This can present in tiny ways as just rejecting an 'ugly' AC character, but it's indicative of a larger problem and why she may experience anxiety.

When you read through the comments, she can't do wrong for doing right: every which way she's damned. But she's in the wrong career, in my opinion. This is a career that serves the worst elements of herself and serves the ego. It binds her to a trauma loop which she cannot escape and allows more of that negative energy from people to come in peppered with the positive and validatory opinions. The childhood becomes the teenager becomes the adult. The average person on the street doesn't have a forum full of people who enjoy hating them... must play havoc with the mind. Regarding her social life/friends - something I've noticed is that she primarily talks to her mum. She only trusts her mum, because everyone else has most likely been snide or untrustworthy in some sort of way, or perceived to be so by her (any little criticism activates panic alarms and chemicals in the brain that signal fight or flight. She is very sensitive to criticism as it triggers memories of emotional pain from bullying). Her mum loves her unconditionally no matter what state she is in (of course she does, she's her mum!). She receives authentic, unconditional love from mum and that is a person she can be herself with without having to worry about backstabbing or emotional pain. It is safety-seeking behaviour which may also be the lack of partner (or she may just not bloody want one!). Gabby is young to want children on her own with IVF/sperm donation (which is what she's said in her vlogs). I guess, if she has kids alone, she doesn't have to trust another person or have input from anyone else that may be critical or end in emotional disaster. It always seems like she's trying to balance her desires and her perceived inadequacy/trust issues.

Gabby is ultimately a sweetheart, I think. She should allow herself to be herself, let go of trying to make herself feel safe from judgement. I think she lashes out or is rude sometimes/gets involved with things she probably shouldn't etc, but how many others do that? Most! I think she deals with anxiety and trying to be the best version of herself the best way she knows how which is pretty good compared to a lot of people. She should practice Stoicism, and not caring about both the positive and negative comments coming her way and just learn to be. Self-acceptance is key, here. Not very money-spinning when you have a business built on selling an idealised version of a young and free 20 something but heyho.

~I really enjoyed these threads. You're all a witty bunch! Made this lockdown feel a lot less tedious the past few days ^_^ ~

Maybe you have a point in some of this. However, I don’t think she’s a sweetheart. I think she’s the abused who has perpetuated the act to become the abuser. The amount of kids she has publicly taken down and shamed and made to feel like tit isn’t acceptable.

She is an influencer by job description. She has a massive power imbalance over her followers. She doesn’t get a free pass, reasons behind behaviour are not always an excuse.

 

[Milliemilmil]

Maybe you have a point in some of this. However, I don’t think she’s a sweetheart. I think she’s the abused who has perpetuated the act to become the abuser. The amount of kids she has publicly taken down and shamed and made to feel like tit isn’t acceptable.

She is an influencer by job description. She has a massive power imbalance over her followers. She doesn’t get a free pass, reasons behind behaviour are not always an excuse.

agreed. Her whole life has been dedicated to validation by material things or trying to become popular, she’s failed every time. Never satisfied and always sour!

 

[Hattiesmummy]

I can 1000000% relate to her hiding her body.
I have lipoadema and I can not bare to see my bottom half, to the point I have no photos of myself.

 

[Notyourpityparty]

Maybe you have a point in some of this. However, I don’t think she’s a sweetheart. I think she’s the abused who has perpetuated the act to become the abuser. The amount of kids she has publicly taken down and shamed and made to feel like tit isn’t acceptable.

She is an influencer by job description. She has a massive power imbalance over her followers. She doesn’t get a free pass, reasons behind behaviour are not always an excuse.

Agreed, if you go back on GG you can see she’s been using her “power” to bully other kids (even to the point police where potentially involved) even before she had all this online followers/ potential hate. Gabby doesn't like ANYthing that goes against what she thinks/says, people have been blocked for the most random reasons and not just cos it makes her feel "judged or bullied again".
She has had social circles and been quite “outgoing” when it suits her, however i think her "nice girl" facade disappears quick and she wants the limelight on herself a lot.
She’s also a huge liar which has been documented, she wants to be seen as "unique" or "Better then others" which can be seen through her lies about living in london, getting into drama school in london and even suggested Jane physically abused her on twitter once when both Jane and her brother follow her which was pretty bizarre
Yeah she’s been bullied and that’s not the nicest thing to deal with, but she’s not as innocent as people may believe, i think she has some narcissistic traits and isn't just a victim of unwarranted criticism, it comes as part of her behaviour

 

[Cutiebaby00]

I do think that Gabbie is easy to criticise because all of her actions are self involved (eg purchases to improve her life). She shows little empathy by rarely discussing the misfortune of others. Her attitude to other people is purely represented to us through fear and bitterness! Now sure, we can’t judge whether this is a true representation of the way she feels about the world. The traits she presents are what society seems to be ‘weak’ such as few friends, little social life, body insecurity and rudeness. These are all things that at one point or another, she has expressed wanting to alter. She has been online for more than five years and there has been little personal growth in all aspects. She has spent thousands on weight loss surgeries and doesn’t really look very different (from what she has presented anyway). Made her honesty video as a bid to alter her viewers and her own attitude on how she interacts with fans. Her twenties have been spent in a particularly anticlimactic way, she’s done very little in that time in terms of personal commendation and socially has also experienced very little. A regular person going through this age transition would go through a large amount of personal growth and emotional maturing. However her significant lack of friends and working independently has meant that she has the social skills of someone ten years her junior. Psychology wise I think she’s a very interesting case. But no matter whether you like drinking/partying or prefer staying in with a film, her total lack of normal human interaction combined with a large income of money and praise has been a curse for her development.
I certainly don’t think she’s awful through and through, but her life allows her to be nasty with no consequence. I think of her as the narcissistic mother of her audience who is pleasant when it benefits her but quickly turns vicious, because her platform allows her to.

 

[snowfairy17]

A few posts back someone said that Alfie had said that gabbie made Zoe more bitchy, was this said in a video or something? Sorry a bit OT but I think I missed that

 

[Victoria sponge cake]

Is this gabbys way of proving she has “friends”, she could easily of just cropped the picture to show the message from her mum but instead she chooses to scribble over all the other messages

 

[Mooncalf]

I also do not believe it was accidental to show the time in the third message down, two below Jane, to show that several people message her in a day/that she's in group chats with her 'friends'

 

[Milliemilmil]

I do think that Gabbie is easy to criticise because all of her actions are self involved (eg purchases to improve her life). She shows little empathy by rarely discussing the misfortune of others. Her attitude to other people is purely represented to us through fear and bitterness! Now sure, we can’t judge whether this is a true representation of the way she feels about the world. The traits she presents are what society seems to be ‘weak’ such as few friends, little social life, body insecurity and rudeness. These are all things that at one point or another, she has expressed wanting to alter. She has been online for more than five years and there has been little personal growth in all aspects. She has spent thousands on weight loss surgeries and doesn’t really look very different (from what she has presented anyway). Made her honesty video as a bid to alter her viewers and her own attitude on how she interacts with fans. Her twenties have been spent in a particularly anticlimactic way, she’s done very little in that time in terms of personal commendation and socially has also experienced very little. A regular person going through this age transition would go through a large amount of personal growth and emotional maturing. However her significant lack of friends and working independently has meant that she has the social skills of someone ten years her junior. Psychology wise I think she’s a very interesting case. But no matter whether you like drinking/partying or prefer staying in with a film, her total lack of normal human interaction combined with a large income of money and praise has been a curse for her development.
I certainly don’t think she’s awful through and through, but her life allows her to be nasty with no consequence. I think of her as the narcissistic mother of her audience who is pleasant when it benefits her but quickly turns vicious, because her platform allows her to.

the part about her being bitchy with no consequence is SO TRUE. I think she may have been much better off if she had some kind of stable office job for a few years, with human interaction and something to get up and go to each day. She’s created pretty much all this mess herself, and I think in turn she created a fear of the outside world, by continually alienating herself.

it’s not even that YouTube might dry up for her one day, it’s already very dry. I have no idea what she will after but I’m keen to see how her life pans out!

 

[Punchface]

I also do not believe it was accidental to show the time in the third message down, two below Jane, to show that several people message her in a day/that she's in group chats with her 'friends'

Oh, definitely And I’m assuming Elle Sk... is also someone to brag about knowing?

 

[Lola123]

Oh, definitely And I’m assuming Elle Sk... is also someone to brag about knowing?

She has one home friend I think called Ellie, apart from that I wouldn’t be surprised if she changed everyone’s names

 

[hereforthedrama1]

Latest insta story...I hope and pray it's not a podcast like Ana! She has the most boring voice,it'd be more of a bedtime cast. Looks like it could be called "just here to say" or something like that

 

[Bexlouell]

Latest insta story...I hope and pray it's not a podcast like Ana! She has the most boring voice,it'd be more of a bedtime cast. Looks like it could be called "just here to say" or something like that

Huh? Latest insta story on my feed is the screenshot of Jane's message almost an hour ago

 

[thelittlebee]

A podcast is not a good move for her I think

She will constantly be putting her foot in her mouth and then cry because people will be sending her “hate”

 

[hereforthedrama1]

Huh? Latest insta story on my feed is the screenshot of Jane's message almost an hour ago

It's just disappeared! Basically it was like one of her iPad drawings of like a coffee table and she had put that she had been working on something exciting outside of YouTube

 

[Punchface]

Oh, definitely And I’m assuming Elle Sk... is also someone to brag about knowing?

Elle Skinner is her manager, giving her a bollocking hopefully

 

[sophiaaaa]

just wanted to bring this back .... like why. she’s an attention seeker

 

[quipawiticism]

Gab likes to insist that she’s 5’3 because she wants to be sew tiny and petite, bird boned basically. But her body isn’t built like that, no matter how hard she loses weight, she isn’t going to be petite like Lucy Hale. Nothing wrong with that, just embrace being average height and build, ffs.

Does anyone remember this? It was so mean spirited of Zoe lol but look at Gab trying to hide from the camera. It’s sad.



Gab used to lick her teeth a lot around Zoe and the twins it was bizarre.

This is the exact clip I was thinking of. She's not even that big here.The look on Zoe's face just makes me want to knock her out. Yes, Gabby sucks and is a horrible person, but Zoe is such a witch for being so gleeful about her "friends" insecurity being exposed. The lot of them are sickening.

 

[GoodGoss]

Latest insta story...I hope and pray it's not a podcast like Ana! She has the most boring voice,it'd be more of a bedtime cast. Looks like it could be called "just here to say" or something like that

Oh god! Could you imagine? I literally can not. This is a creator who’s main form of creativity for her product is literally getting her viewers to watch paint dry.
She’s not intelligent, she’s not charismatic, she doesn’t have many interests in any absolute thing in this world to be able to have a somewhat stimulating amount of time dedicated to talking about. Nor is she interested to learn.
God, there is no way!



I can see however, her pulling a pointless alfiestotle, grabbing some inspirational quotes from Instagram and her management telling her to make some pretty pictures for the quotes to sit on, maybe? She is a great artist after all.