Eve Cornwell

[missmina]

Are you kidding me?

I feel so.much. secondhand embarassment. These pretentious poses. Oh my bleeping god too much cringe.

Also don’t wanna offend anyone and tbh I don’t see in in Eve’s particular outfit but why would queerness as such have to be expressed in your work outfit? I thought we were leaving the stereotypes and boxes behind, so is the fact she doesn’t wear business dresses anymore supposed showcase she’s a queer person? Like idk to me it sounded a bit off as if wearing dressess and being feminine was not queer whereas quirky outfits = queer ( though I wouldnt necessarily describe that particular outfit as super quirky either way).

 

[veronika.sunshine]

It's just ridiculous. She's using "queer" as a personality trait AND a fashion style. Good old "my first legal lookbook" video...

Also - how is "wearing stuff that is comfortable for you" and "wearing different style of clothes on different days" somehow specific to being queer? Surely Eve used to wear jeans some days and dresses on other days even before she thought of herself as queer?

 

[getawaywithit]

Okay, I do think that there is something to be said for queer people finding the appropriate clothes in certain contexts and it can be a bit difficult depending on how you present— for example, years and years ago a friend of mine who is a lesbian planned to wear a nice suit as a wedding guest and got a lot of pushback from her mother and other relatives begging her to wear a dress or something less ‘noticeable’. (I mean, wtf). Similarly, in the workspace if you dress a bit off what is ‘expected’ it can be a lot. Another friend of mine complained that when she wore more masculine outfits in the office she’d get the requisite office busy bodies stopping by like “whyyyy are you wearing thaaaaaaat lol!” or other weird questions. It can be easy for some of us to assume that there are no weird judgements to overcome when there still are.

All that said, Eve is just wearing a sweater vest and dress pants and she clearly presents as a feminine woman. I mean, I get it, but it does make me lol a bit. Look, in the first two years after coming out, especially if you come out a bit later in life, you tend to be a bit weird and obsessed with your new identity and trying out these new ways of being as though they are costumes. I expect she will calm down after a while and just settle back into herself but…… we’ll see.

 

[Merpedy]

Given the past outfits she has shown I really don’t think this ‘queer’ stuff is that much of a big deal as she makes it out to be

Had she shown herself wearing a very narrow set of styles then yeah maybe

 

[missmina]

Okay, I do think that there is something to be said for queer people finding the appropriate clothes in certain contexts and it can be a bit difficult depending on how you present— for example, years and years ago a friend of mine who is a lesbian planned to wear a nice suit as a wedding guest and got a lot of pushback from her mother and other relatives begging her to wear a dress or something less ‘noticeable’. (I mean, wtf). Similarly, in the workspace if you dress a bit off what is ‘expected’ it can be a lot. Another friend of mine complained that when she wore more masculine outfits in the office she’d get the requisite office busy bodies stopping by like “whyyyy are you wearing thaaaaaaat lol!” or other weird questions. It can be easy for some of us to assume that there are no weird judgements to overcome when there still are.

All that said, Eve is just wearing a sweater vest and dress pants and she clearly presents as a feminine woman. I mean, I get it, but it does make me lol a bit. Look, in the first two years after coming out, especially if you come out a bit later in life, you tend to be a bit weird and obsessed with your new identity and trying out these new ways of being as though they are costumes. I expect she will calm down after a while and just settle back into herself but…… we’ll see.

Well to be honest that issue does not specifically refer to queer women as such but women in general. What I mean is there is a stereotype that queer women are more "manly" - which is wrong cause it's not true at all. Other thing is that to me the stereotypes regarding clothes should be erased and everyone should be able to wear what they want without being labeled as XYZ. Thankfully it is becoming normalised when a woman can wear a tailored suit and look very feminine (if that's what she wants) or more unisex because it becomes more and more popular. However in my opinion Eve pushes back these stereotypes how her being queer / lesbian automatically ties with quirky clothing and more "specific" style and she highlights it at every occasion. Same with specific gestures, way of talking and so on. Like come on.

Besides, workplace is, as the name suggests, the place of work. It's great that more and more places are working on being inclusive but in my opinion there is no need to showcase that you're a queer person in your workplace cause tbh no one cares. People come there to work and make money. Sure if you establish some closer relationships with some of your coworkers they may be more interested and open to talk your personal life. But in general, the fact that Eve is a lesbian does not automatically equal quirky clothes and no one really has to know. It's your private, sexual life after all. I am not gonna dress "quirky" at my office (I work in law too) to showcase that I'm a lesbian ffs. Just dress in accordance with the dress code - which Eve fails cause going to the office with your belly out (which she did) is super lame, especially when you work with clients. That being said, barely any offices have gender stereotyped dress code nowadays either way which is amazing - it would be a different case if women were only allowed to wear dresses / skirts but we've ended that years ago thankfully.

 

[user73626]

Well to be honest that issue does not specifically refer to queer women as such but women in general. What I mean is there is a stereotype that queer women are more "manly" - which is wrong cause it's not true at all. Other thing is that to me the stereotypes regarding clothes should be erased and everyone should be able to wear what they want without being labeled as XYZ. Thankfully it is becoming normalised when a woman can wear a tailored suit and look very feminine (if that's what she wants) or more unisex because it becomes more and more popular. However in my opinion Eve pushes back these stereotypes how her being queer / lesbian automatically ties with quirky clothing and more "specific" style and she highlights it at every occasion. Same with specific gestures, way of talking and so on. Like come on.

Besides, workplace is, as the name suggests, the place of work. It's great that more and more places are working on being inclusive but in my opinion there is no need to showcase that you're a queer person in your workplace cause tbh no one cares. People come there to work and make money. Sure if you establish some closer relationships with some of your coworkers they may be more interested and open to talk your personal life. But in general, the fact that Eve is a lesbian does not automatically equal quirky clothes and no one really has to know. It's your private, sexual life after all. I am not gonna dress "quirky" at my office (I work in law too) to showcase that I'm a lesbian ffs. Just dress in accordance with the dress code - which Eve fails cause going to the office with your belly out (which she did) is super lame, especially when you work with clients. That being said, barely any offices have gender stereotyped dress code nowadays either way which is amazing - it would be a different case if women were only allowed to wear dresses / skirts but we've ended that years ago thankfully.

i agree offices don’t have gender stereotyped dress codes, but do you not think there’s still expectations of who should dress how, like if a guy walked in with a feminine outfit, would no one care? (i don’t work in law, but i know in my office there’d unfortunately be people questioning it). i don’t think she was necessarily trying to dress to showcase she’s gay, rather she wasn’t forcing herself to always dress feminine (by wearing something like a dress) to fit in with what’s expected, because i would say there’s still some judgement if you go against the traditional men dress masculine/women dress feminine vibe. i agree that it’s applicable to everyone, not just queer people, but i think it’s more common for queer people (imo, especially gay men) to be constrained by these expectations. i think women in suits/more masculine outfits is becoming more common and accepted (as it should be, if it’s professional i don’t get why it matters who wears what). but from my own group of friends, i know too many feminine gay men who wear blouses/dresses/everything feminine in between outside of work, but stick to a suit for workwear instead of something like a blouse because they don’t feel comfortable dressing more feminine in a corporate space. so i interpreted her video more as dressing masculine/feminine whenever you feel like it despite any pressures to dress a certain way i.e. expressing however you’re feeling - not actually actively trying to show you’re gay through an outfit.

 

[missmina]

i agree offices don’t have gender stereotyped dress codes, but do you not think there’s still expectations of who should dress how, like if a guy walked in with a feminine outfit, would no one care? (i don’t work in law, but i know in my office there’d unfortunately be people questioning it). i don’t think she was necessarily trying to dress to showcase she’s gay, rather she wasn’t forcing herself to always dress feminine (by wearing something like a dress) to fit in with what’s expected, because i would say there’s still some judgement if you go against the traditional men dress masculine/women dress feminine vibe. i agree that it’s applicable to everyone, not just queer people, but i think it’s more common for queer people (imo, especially gay men) to be constrained by these expectations. i think women in suits/more masculine outfits is becoming more common and accepted (as it should be, if it’s professional i don’t get why it matters who wears what). but from my own group of friends, i know too many feminine gay men who wear blouses/dresses/everything feminine in between outside of work, but stick to a suit for workwear instead of something like a blouse because they don’t feel comfortable dressing more feminine in a corporate space. so i interpreted her video more as dressing masculine/feminine whenever you feel like it despite any pressures to dress a certain way i.e. expressing however you’re feeling - not actually actively trying to show you’re gay through an outfit.

Yes there are expectations as in stereotypes but they don't come from workplace itself but people in general. Judgement comes from "normal" people first and foremost - family!, friends, acquaintances, cashiers, everyone, not from corporate dress code which as such has to be basically neutral - and during work hours you're representing the company not yourself as such.

Besides, in my opinion, when exaggerating your sexual preference (as far as I know Eve is lesbian and it doesn't refer to her gender identity as such) through clothes and making it your main personality trait like Eve does incorporates these stereotypes even more. People should be able to wear any type of clothes they want without it automatically hinting specifically to their sexual orientation, simply because it's a very private space. I just feel it's very show-offy when it only concerns your personal life. In overall you do you but there is no need to accentuate your private life in the workplace. It's as if you felt more important and special just because of your sexual orientation and had to showcase it even in the office. Like why.

 

[user73626]

Yes there are expectations as in stereotypes but they don't come from workplace itself but people in general. Judgement comes from "normal" people first and foremost - family!, friends, acquaintances, cashiers, everyone, not from corporate dress code which as such has to be basically neutral - and during work hours you're representing the company not yourself as such.

Besides, in my opinion, when exaggerating your sexual preference (as far as I know Eve is lesbian and it doesn't refer to her gender identity as such) through clothes and making it your main personality trait like Eve does incorporates these stereotypes even more. People should be able to wear any type of clothes they want without it automatically hinting specifically to their sexual orientation, simply because it's a very private space. I just feel it's very show-offy when it only concerns your personal life. In overall you do you but there is no need to accentuate your private life in the workplace. It's as if you felt more important and special just because of your sexual orientation and had to showcase it even in the office. Like why.

i’m guessing bigger firms like linklaters place an emphasis on being authentic at work and bringing your full self to work though, so i’d say you are encouraged to represent yourself to some extent, as well as the company. and judgement from normal people really means nothing - i couldn’t care less if a cashier looks at me weird because of how i’m dressed (or friends and family even tbh), but i do if it’s my manager or someone who has power over when i get promoted. so although these expectations don’t come from the workplace itself, i get why you’d struggle with being comfortable expressing your masc/fem side at work specifically, because the judgements people make actually matter.
and i don’t think her outfit is exaggerating her sexuality (i don’t think that’s even possible), i think she’s just expressing a bit more of her masculine side - which i agree everyone should be able to do regardless of sexuality. i’m also someone who’s been told being gay is my whole personality and i just don’t think eve is anywhere near as extra as i am, and i doubt she’s very extra about it at work - i cant see her doing anything more than telling colleagues she has a gf when they mention their partners. but even if she is extra af and she’s doing it to ‘show off’, i don’t think it’s a bad thing. i only came out because another colleague was so open about being gay, and there’s so few of us we may as well be loud and proud about it (can you tell it’s my whole personality yet🥲). i think she’s trying to make it her personality on the internet to attract a queer audience though (although obviously not every queer will enjoy that).

 

[missmina]

In general I’m not a fan of her style
(and I hate HATE sweater vests, sorry)

Not to mention she’s became so bleeping pretentious lately - wtf is that pose even

No nope

 

[Merpedy]

In general I’m not a fan of her style
(and I hate HATE sweater vests, sorry)

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Not to mention she’s became so bleeping pretentious lately - wtf is that pose even

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She looks like she found kpop and is now taking that for inspiration tbh - at least the first two

I also looked through her IG earlier to see if she ever had a very narrow set of styles and honestly she still wore a lot of suits. They may have been a more feminine colour but that’s about it. Really, is the change from soft colours to black/grey in the workplace that much of a big deal by that point?

 

[NooraCoora]

It seems to me that Eve generally has problems with dressing professionally. Regardless of whether she conforms to gender roles or not. The look in her tiktok is cute though. I hope she'll stick to similar styles and doesn't go back to crop-tops.

 

[DietGossip]

Okay, I do think that there is something to be said for queer people finding the appropriate clothes in certain contexts and it can be a bit difficult depending on how you present— for example, years and years ago a friend of mine who is a lesbian planned to wear a nice suit as a wedding guest and got a lot of pushback from her mother and other relatives begging her to wear a dress or something less ‘noticeable’. (I mean, wtf). Similarly, in the workspace if you dress a bit off what is ‘expected’ it can be a lot. Another friend of mine complained that when she wore more masculine outfits in the office she’d get the requisite office busy bodies stopping by like “whyyyy are you wearing thaaaaaaat lol!” or other weird questions. It can be easy for some of us to assume that there are no weird judgements to overcome when there still are.

All that said, Eve is just wearing a sweater vest and dress pants and she clearly presents as a feminine woman. I mean, I get it, but it does make me lol a bit. Look, in the first two years after coming out, especially if you come out a bit later in life, you tend to be a bit weird and obsessed with your new identity and trying out these new ways of being as though they are costumes. I expect she will calm down after a while and just settle back into herself but…… we’ll see.

She is being SUCH a baby gay right now. Like I can't really judge cause I went through the same, but I also didn't have 100k+ followers.

 

[sheleg]

For a hundred bleeping grand a year, love, you should be concentrating on your job and not worrying about how you can "express yourself as queer".

Jesus. Does she really think she's the first lesbian high-powered lawyer to have existed?

 

[Lola123]

Right so I’ve been thinking about this, Eve from what I can remember has never described herself as a lesbian, she keeps using queer? Maybe this is why she’s over using it as she has finally found her identity?

 

[Eldoral]

Raina moved out because she is an adult with a good salary that can live on her own. Sad for anushka

She did always seem more mature when it comes to professionalism and generally seemed to have a great work ethic too. Anushka yeah... Maybe she ended up enjoying the paralegal work though, who knows.

 

[MarinaScorpio]

I really don't think this hair color suits her....

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[Eldoral]

I really don't think this hair color suits her....

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Really? I thought it was probably her best one yet. Looks professional too.

 

[YellowLadybird]

I really don't think this hair color suits her....

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I really loved the blonde highlights tbh

 

[sheleg]

Right so I’ve been thinking about this, Eve from what I can remember has never described herself as a lesbian, she keeps using queer? Maybe this is why she’s over using it as she has finally found her identity?

She's probably not using lesbian because the woke crowd would come after her for being sO tRaNsPhoBic.

 

[ECH]

She's probably not using lesbian because the woke crowd would come after her for being sO tRaNsPhoBic.

Come on now, literally no one would do that. She's most likely using 'queer' because it's the word she feels describes her best or she's not settled on her identity - she may still be questioning if she's attracted to men or not before deciding on a label. It has nothing to do with being 'woke' or trying to avoid claims of transphobia, which she would literally not get if she decided she felt 'lesbian' described her best.