Esme Haynes Payne

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Maisie doesn’t help herself by posting it online, it will all be used against them if they ever go to court and the fact Maisie herself stated he assaulted her and her friend would go against them. The fact Maisie and Jordan have assaulted each other and the photos Maisie posted of her ripping up his things, driving past esme’s flat and including writing “I love esme” on his clothes doesn’t exactly show the maturity does it. If you don’t trust your man, don’t be with him x
Where are these pictures 👀
 
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He ‘only’ spat on her? How bleeping low are her standards. She’s 20, she doesn’t think she can get someone better than an abusive piece of tit who lives with mummy and daddy, has 2 kids and a criminal record? AIM HIGHER MAISIE JESUS CHRIST AIM HIGHER

Oh and he’s a scumbag 🤭
I know right! Either one of those girls could do better than him, he's the definition of a fuckboy.
 
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This is true but it’s an exceptionally hard and long process. We’re almost 6 years deep in it here and still have issues because mother of child will not let go. Any excuse she can find to stop access it happens and we can’t afford to pull her up on it. There’s been multiple times we’ve almost just let her win as it’s worn us through to breaking point. I can’t see Jordan giving things up to achieve it and if Maisie is young and just wants fun and parties I can’t see it happening.
Thanks for taking the time to explain, that actually makes a lot of sense.
 
I have 0 respect for all of them to be fair.

Jordan - We don’t see a lot of him in videos or things anymore, but in a way I think this is a good thing that Esme is now keeping their coparenting away from social media. She has maintained in previous videos he is still involved and still sees both girls. Clearly loves this drama to a certain extent having 2 girls “fight” over him. Comes across as a bit of a dick head for how both girls have portrayed him but we have also all made our own assumptions. We only see what we see from their socials. If I was him and Maisie had said I assaulted her and her friend but then she back tracks and said he never did I would not have gone back there. HUGE red flags…

Esme - Nobody can say she’s a bad mother. She isn’t. I’ve followed her account from before her following got big and the love she has for her daughters is second to none. I sympathise with being a lone parent as have been there myself, it is hard and can get very lonely. She has been naive with Jordan thinking they would have the perfect family in the end, one of them was bound to move on at one point it just happened to be him. And she always maintained they were just coparenting but we have all now realised her feelings were way deeper than that. She has acted very childish with the “time wasn’t in our favour video,” not going to lie. BUT - all that aside - she IS a good mum. Nobody can take that away from her. Again we only see what she puts on social media. But I feel the fact she hasn’t retaliated to Maisie with videos or anything potentially shows a mature growth here? She is clearly focussing on her daughters. With the way Maisie has behaved quite frankly I wouldn’t want her around my children either. But she doesn’t have the right to dictate who Jordan is in a relationship with. So I guess she either needs to be present for the contact or just trust in him that Maisie won’t be there if he has the girls alone at any point.

Maisie - At the start I actually somewhat liked her? She was clearly happy with Jordan as was he with her. However, some of her friends made videos which didn’t help the situation (Erin mainly) regarding Esme. Maisie included making videos which in my opinion would have been hard for Esme to watch but then at the same time Esme shouldn’t have been looking. She has proved her childishness with how she behaved with the tiktok video of “assault.” Assault is a HUGE accusation to make about someone, especially if that someone has children. Jordan seems in no way shape or form perfect, none of them do. But assault is a huge accusation and even out of anger, if you know no assault has taken place, you do not throw that accusation around. When she made her “apology” video if that’s what you can call it…I lost all immediate respect for her and can very much understand why Esme would not want her daughters around her. Maisie and her friends seem very quick to react to things without thinking about the long term consequences. Especially when she is on a platform that is very open and public and currently involved with a baby mums baby daddy in which said baby mum has rather a large following….

All in all, I think I now respect Esme the most out of all of them. She has made mistakes along the way, but this chapter of him being with someone else is new. Octavia is 3 months at the end of March. Since she’s given birth she has had a lot to deal with. Having 2 under 3 is by no means easy whilst also having the pressure of trying to maintain contact with your baby daddy who’s girlfriend comes across as being a bit controlling if that’s the right word. Maisie clearly has trust issues to think Jordan and Esme were doing things behind her back. As well as being able to so easily throw the word “assault” around which is HUGE for anybody but let alone when you have children. If Esme has said that Maisie can’t be around the girls then that does not mean Jordan can’t see his kids. Maybe they can have contact at her flat or go out together as the 4 of them so Esme can trust that she will not be present.

If she has said Jordan can’t see his kids because of his relationship and will not allow contact while he is with Maisie - that is wrong. And Jordan could take her to court for access if she has said that which Maisie stated in her video.

The three of them need to remember the girls are at the bottom of all of this and quite frankly with the videos that have been made recently I’m surprised child services haven’t been involved with safe guarding concerns. Not to mention Esme has openly admitted on instagram and on tiktok videos that she is struggling with her mental health. That does not give Esme permission to be a witch if she has said the above to Jordan (regarding access) BUT we have a barely 12 week post partum mother of 2 under 3 here. Esme seems to be getting on with her life where as Maisie is trying to cause friction and it is not acceptable on any level.

So if the 3 of you ever read this - please remember them 2 beautiful little girls come first. Jordan should be pulling his weight and have set contact in place. Maisie needs to respect Esme and vice versa. Esme and Maisie have no need to communicate with each other. If Maisie and Jordan’s relationship is to continue that Is fine but respect must be given to Esme’s wishes and concerns around Maisie seeing the girls as she is the primary care giver to the both of them. Jordan and Esme’s communication should be solely about the girls and nothing else.

If that doesn’t work go to mediation failing that go to court and get contact set in child arrangement orders for both girls. STOP playing mind games STOP posting unnecessary tit on social media and REMEMBER to respect each other and PUT them 2 little girls first.

Period.
 
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Thought everything has been quite quiet so went for a nose on Maisie'a tiktok .... she's deleted all her videos !! Wonder what's going on
 
Reckon the police got involved . Not hugely but i reckon they told them to stop being dicks and leave eachother alone xx
 
Has anyone seen Maisie’s insta story? Pic of police tape and flowers and the caption is ‘rip 🤍’ very sad regardless

Has anyone seen Maisie’s insta story? Pic of police tape and flowers and the caption is ‘rip 🤍’ very sad regardless
It says ‘my heart is broken🤍 RIP’
 
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