English Channel migrant crossing crisis #3

[monga]

Sweden are also tightening up immigration laws.
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[monga]

No room at the inn

Cruise ships set to house asylum seekers in Liverpool and Edinburgh sent back to owners after finding nowhere to dock

The vessels were expected to head to Liverpool and Edinburgh, but Sky News understands from a source that both plans have fallen through.

news.sky.com

 

[Merpedy]

No room at the inn

Cruise ships set to house asylum seekers in Liverpool and Edinburgh sent back to owners after finding nowhere to dock

The vessels were expected to head to Liverpool and Edinburgh, but Sky News understands from a source that both plans have fallen through.

news.sky.com

Seems a massive waste of money to acquire these ships without agreements that they will be allowed to actually dock in ports. I'm wondering if whatever contract they have entitles them to get some of that sweet contract money back or whether it's just been freely given to whatever company and probably their Tory mates

The Liverpool rejection was based on local agencies:

Peel Ports Group, operator of The Port of Liverpool, said whilst they could provide the berth, "it was dependent on the necessary support from the local agencies".

They told the PA news agency: "Last week, we simply observed that we could not see any conceivable scenario where the local agencies are going to be able to provide the necessary support to make this solution work.

"Peel Ports remains committed to fulfilling its full statutory obligations to provide access to any vessel, provided it can do so safely and securely, and it has the available infrastructure."

The article also mentions a London dock:

London's Royal Docks said it had informed the Home Office last month that water beside City Airport would not be appropriate as a potential location to moor one of its floating accommodation vessels.

Plan for cruise ship to house asylum seekers near Liverpool scrapped

A government source tells Sky News the plan for a giant ship to house hundreds of men seeking asylum has been scrapped after being declined by the port.

news.sky.com

 

[Piff paff puff]

Maybe they'll have to keep the cruises cruising if councils won't let them dock

 

[Blueblue123]

Seems a massive waste of money to acquire these ships without agreements that they will be allowed to actually dock in ports. I'm wondering if whatever contract they have entitles them to get some of that sweet contract money back or whether it's just been freely given to whatever company and probably their Tory mates

The Liverpool rejection was based on local agencies:


The article also mentions a London dock:

Plan for cruise ship to house asylum seekers near Liverpool scrapped

A government source tells Sky News the plan for a giant ship to house hundreds of men seeking asylum has been scrapped after being declined by the port.

news.sky.com

What an embarrassment.

 

[monga]

Probably already back in the country
Deported Indian hotel porter who raped X Factor star is revealed
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...an-deported.html?ito=native_share_article-top

 

[monga]

It’s thought the UK migration bill could set the precedent for change throughout Europe .

 

[Blueblue123]

The government is seemingly paying four times more to house asylum seekers on a ship than it would cost for an average customer.

Seeing as it's not a commercial contract and it's taxpayer money, you'd hope our government would be able to secure a better deal.

Always follow the money...

 

[Merpedy]

It’s thought the UK migration bill could set the precedent for change throughout Europe .

This seems like some wishful thinking, the Bill is predicted not to work and there's already symptoms of this happening:


EU countries also have some differences to us:

• Courts seem to be more inaccessible than they are in the UK, so Governments can theoretically get away with a lot. I have posted about an Eastern European country deporting asylum seekers without letting them respond to that decision, the deportations went through without being stopped by the courts - unlikely to happen within the UK. It was only the second set of deportations that were stood down, can't remember if it was due to court involvement or it simply being reported by a charity
• For this to work, they would have to have (a) detention centres and (b) some sort of solution to not being able to deport people
• There's going to be many asylum seekers not claiming asylum anyway as they intend to travel further into Europe or to the UK. It appears that many possibly go undetected. When people arrive to the UK, the majority are going to claim asylum

For all the talk of security issues within the UK, when you consider that Europe has people constantly passing through and asylum seekers don't all necessarily get the same support they do in the UK, it actually seems to be more of a security risk for Europe

 

[Blueblue123]

This seems like some wishful thinking, the Bill is predicted not to work and there's already symptoms of this happening

Ironically, the bill does more to punish people who have already made the journey by boat than it does to stop people from embarking on the journey in the first place.

Even with the passing of the bill, the government rejected the amendment which forces them to focus on the criminal gangs that arrange these boat journeys and another which asks them to set up safe routes.

If there are no safe routes and no extra attention given to people who make these journeys possible, how exactly are the boats being stopped?

 

[monga]

This seems like some wishful thinking, the Bill is predicted not to work and there's already symptoms of this happening:


EU countries also have some differences to us:

• Courts seem to be more inaccessible than they are in the UK, so Governments can theoretically get away with a lot. I have posted about an Eastern European country deporting asylum seekers without letting them respond to that decision, the deportations went through without being stopped by the courts - unlikely to happen within the UK. It was only the second set of deportations that were stood down, can't remember if it was due to court involvement or it simply being reported by a charity
• For this to work, they would have to have (a) detention centres and (b) some sort of solution to not being able to deport people
• There's going to be many asylum seekers not claiming asylum anyway as they intend to travel further into Europe or to the UK. It appears that many possibly go undetected. When people arrive to the UK, the majority are going to claim asylum

For all the talk of security issues within the UK, when you consider that Europe has people constantly passing through and asylum seekers don't all necessarily get the same support they do in the UK, it actually seems to be more of a security risk for Europe

Poland doesn’t seem to have an issue with terrorist attacks.
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Ironically, the bill does more to punish people who have already made the journey by boat than it does to stop people from embarking on the journey in the first place.

Even with the passing of the bill, the government rejected the amendment which forces them to focus on the criminal gangs that arrange these boat journeys and another which asks them to set up safe routes.

If there are no safe routes and no extra attention given to people who make these journeys possible, how exactly are the boats being stopped?

Maybe once they realize their journey is wasted they won’t want to pay out their life savings to traffickers.I’m sure word will quickly spread.

 

[Merpedy]

Poland doesn’t seem to have an issue with terrorist attacks.

Eastern European countries bordering Belarus are a weird little situation of their own themselves

 

[Blueblue123]

Maybe once they realize their journey is wasted they won’t want to pay out their life savings to traffickers.I’m sure word will quickly spread.

So instead of actually doing anything, the government is hoping people will just fall in line and police themselves. Bit of a strange strategy considering all their big talk and the fact they can literally change the law.
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English Channel migrant crossing crisis #4

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tattle.life

 

[monga]

So instead of actually doing anything, the government is hoping people will just fall in line and police themselves. Bit of a strange strategy considering all their big talk and the fact they can literally change the law.
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English Channel migrant crossing crisis #4

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tattle.life

The whole point is to show that crime doesn’t pay…Literally! Where do you think they’re going to get enough police officers to police criminal gangs along with everything else that’s going on?
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Eastern European countries bordering Belarus are a weird little situation of their own themselves

But no terrorist attacks !