Emma Tustin and Thomas Hughes

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Where was that published? I’m not disputing its accuracy, just nosy
Facebook post.

Another update from Daniel:

Agreed 100%. That’s why our proposal is that we have a service, they have a service, his mother keeps the ashes, all money raised goes to charity and no press at either funeral.

Only reason for that to be rejected is because of other motives.

To have claimed we as a family and Thomas have prevented the funeral is an outright lie!
 
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Facebook post.

Another update from Daniel:

Agreed 100%. That’s why our proposal is that we have a service, they have a service, his mother keeps the ashes, all money raised goes to charity and no press at either funeral.

Only reason for that to be rejected is because of other motives.

To have claimed we as a family and Thomas have prevented the funeral is an outright lie!
Oh I can’t see his profile
 
Somebody has commented on the post asking why he and his family didn't step in and get Arthur to safety. Surprisingly, he has replied :

I’ll answer. Police and SS were called as there were concerns about how Emma was towards Arthur. Believe it or not, prior to then we only knew Thomas as a loving caring father.

When police and SS said they had no concerns, we went to the house to speak to Arthur and Tom. They weren’t in. Police said if we returned we would be arrested.

We as a family spoke about smashing the door down and taking Arthur. We agreed that as police had no concerns, he would be taken back. I would be arrested for kidnap and lose my child.

We as a family thought that now Emma knew she was being watched, Arthur would be safe with Thomas.

Alas, we were horrifically wrong.

People think when I say Thomas was great before that I’m lying. Speak to the lady below me on this thread. Katie. She isn’t family, I’ve never met her. Her brother (who Olivia killed) knew of Thomas.
 
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Somebody has commented on the post asking why he and his family didn't step in and get Arthur to safety. Surprisingly, he has replied :

I’ll answer. Police and SS were called as there were concerns about how Emma was towards Arthur. Believe it or not, prior to then we only knew Thomas as a loving caring father.

When police and SS said they had no concerns, we went to the house to speak to Arthur and Tom. They weren’t in. Police said if we returned we would be arrested.

We as a family spoke about smashing the door down and taking Arthur. We agreed that as police had no concerns, he would be taken back. I would be arrested for kidnap and lose my child.

We as a family thought that now Emma knew she was being watched, Arthur would be safe with Thomas.

Alas, we were horrifically wrong.

People think when I say Thomas was great before that I’m lying. Speak to the lady below me on this thread. Katie. She isn’t family, I’ve never met her. Her brother (who Olivia killed) knew of Thomas.
What did Katie say?
 
Oh I can’t see his profile
I don't think its his "official" profile. He created a secondary profile to join the Facebook group that was set up for the trial. He didn't post that much, just the odd comment. He seems to be talking freely now the trial is over, although he has left the group, his posts are public for all to see and share. And it's definitely legit as he posted the video of Arthur talking about which football team he was going to play for (in happier times) as he didn't want the press to be the ones to release it. It was a private video of his, filmed by him, that was shown in court. How the press got hold of it I don't know.
 
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What did Katie say?
Contains some typos but this is Katie's reply, the sister of the man Olivia murdered:

Hey Dan

Rule number 1. F*CK WHAT PEOPLE THINK!!!!

I want to explode and tell people that ARTHURS MATERNAL MOTHER IS LOVING THIS LIME LIGHT... EMMA WAS ALL THAT OLIVIA WAS...

READ THE SUMMING UP FROM MY BROTHERS TRIAL THE WORDS OF BOTH WOMEN ARE BOTH THE SAME!!!

The last time his birth mother seen his mom... arthur was crying and begging his DAD to pick him up and take him away from her....

THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BAD TO SAY ABOUT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY NEED TO KNOW THERE IS A MASSIVE STORY BEHING ALL THIS.... IT STARTED WELL BEFORE SHE WENT TO PRISON.... HER HAND ENT CLEAN.... SHE LIED TO SOCIAL SERVICES AND KNEW HER SON WAS AT RISK.... THIS IS A SNOWBALL EFFECT FROM HER INITIAL ACTIONS

Is the brothers profile private? What’s the profile pic of?
No profile picture. His posts regarding Arthur are public.
 
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Facebook post.

Another update from Daniel:

Agreed 100%. That’s why our proposal is that we have a service, they have a service, his mother keeps the ashes, all money raised goes to charity and no press at either funeral.
All this mudslinging is very unsavoury. Can't say I like Uncle Daniels's tone either - "his mother keeps the ashes". Nah, you don't get to call the shots here. All and any funeral arrangements should be done by Olivia IMO.
 
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Interesting some people are saying SS were involved when Arthur was 3 😢
 
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Just on topic of the schools, Arthur would have been identified as vulnerable because of what he had previously been through with his family. It also should have raised eyebrows that he was living with a new family so soon, so the fact there was only electronic messages exchanged is alarming.
SS blocked the school when they did raise concerns but if TH refused a place I think more should have been done to ensure he was engaging with school as much as possible in that time, whether or not dad rejected the place. Obviously head teachers have learnt a lot in how to handle lockdowns but I really don’t think enough was done in their part to ensure this highly vulnerable child was engaging with them. That was their duty. I know it’s not their fault solely, he was let down by all services unfortunately
Well said. My school would have been knocking on their door doing curtesy visits every day if they were vulnerable, but choosing not to attend and ringing them up and badgering them to bring him in. Our schools in an area with lots of vulnerable families and children and the family support worker made sure all those who seriously had to be in school were in during each lock down.
I just truly hope schools never lock down again.
 
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Yes ss were known of Arthur for 3 years. Such a shame
Did Olivia start doing drugs then? She was severely addicted before she stabbed GC. I saw that thread and has a noisey at ‘Katie’. She is GC’s sister, seem to think her brother was innocent and Olivia made it all up.
It’s sad to think his little body is still in the mortuary, I wish they would be civil and just have a funeral and scatter his ashes. No one gets to ‘keep him’ he is free.
 
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Yes ss were known of Arthur for 3 years. Such a shame
So hang on, Arthur was known by SS for 3 years?! All whilst his mum was on drugs? The person his dad moved in with already had children removed from her care? Arthur’s mum was arrested for killing someone? YET THIS CHILD STILL SLIPPED UNDER THE RADAR?! How is this even possible?! How was he not watched more closely?! How was he not classed as a vulnerable child and was required to go to school during lockdown? How did the school not chase this up regardless if his dad said it wasn’t required… time and time again that little boy was failed! Still so angry and devastated for that poor angel 💔
 
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is there more voice recordings released? I've just heard the earlier ones.

I see fb comments that ET is in hospital, anyone know if that's true?
I don't know if she is in hospital, but can you imagine if you had to tend to her? I'm not a nurse, and probably for this reason- but I couldn't care for her knowing what she had done. How do you separate it?? I mean hats off to the people who do their job and treat her like any other patient, must have hearts of gold. Which I suppose would show her up for what she is.....a wicked and evil coward.
But I couldn't imagine it, being around her and having to care for her.
I really hope she never, ever has a moments peace for the rest of her life.
 
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I don't know if she is in hospital, but can you imagine if you had to tend to her? I'm not a nurse, and probably for this reason- but I couldn't care for her knowing what she had done. How do you separate it?? I mean hats off to the people who do their job and treat her like any other patient, must have hearts of gold. Which I suppose would show her up for what she is.....a wicked and evil coward.
But I couldn't imagine it, being around her and having to care for her.
I really hope she never, ever has a moments peace for the rest of her life.
It’s very difficult! I like to think I’m kind to all my patients, non judgemental and fair etc, however CARING for someone like this is a massive challenge. If ever we have patients from prison or with police escorts, we are never told of their crimes so as to ensure we treat them fairly (also it isn’t relevant unless their crime = their clinical condition) but in the past we have had high profile prisoners or prisoners who are all over the local news / on trial etc and it’s obvious who they are and what they’ve done. I personally keep intervention to a bare minimum, provide what I have to and move on. No nice chit chat. No extra kindness beyond what my contract asks of me.

If she is currently in hospital then I hope she makes the most of it - I know that the team will be trying their very best to fix her up and get her discharged back to prison asap so that she can return to where she belongs, but most importantly to where people can treat her the way I’m sure we would all like to. She doesn’t deserve kindness or help.
 
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All this talk of ET being in hospital, maybe she has got her eye on getting sent to a secure hospital, as others here have said too. I'm sure she'd much rather be doing quiz nights and embroidery etc. than dodging angry prisoners in an HMP. If she keeps trying to kill herself surely she'll be sectioned?

Ian Huntley was sectioned for repeated suicide attempts whilst on remand and sent to Rampton for two months where they concluded he had no major mental health illnesses. He was declared fit to stand trial.

I wouldn't put it past ET's narcissism to think she could fool psychiatrists. Or maybe she does want to kill herself. The prospect of three decades of your liberty taken away would make a lot of people consider that option I reckon, let alone someone who had previously flung them self off the sixth storey of a car park.
 
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Not sure whether it’s been mentioned in this post yet but WHY DIDN’T THE HAIRDRESSER REPORT ANYTHING?! If that was going on in my home, I would’ve been straight on the phone to the police and would’ve recorded EVERYTHING 😫😢 she was the last person that had a chance of saving his life 😞😞😞
 
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Did you know of her? If you did, this is prob why it feels so much harder. I'm all the way down in Devon and have cried everyday. I even felt awful for feeling hungry whe Arthur went through it for weeks. I think it's so raw as it's the first time on video we have seen the true face of what abuse does to a child.

I am struggling too not to think about. I just wish I could save him and others. It's horrendous. I feel guilty for wishing to stop think about it when Arthur had to live through it.

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Yes I was year below her in school, had her as a FB friend, spoke I bumped into her sort of thing. Xx
 
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