Emilie Kiser

[ASAnigel]

I also don’t think the fact they’re online should be part of the privacy thing. Do I want to or think anyone should view camera footage or listen to 911 calls? Hard hard no, nothing to do with them being in the public eye, I just wouldn’t want to watch or listen to stuff about any child drowning.
However, if their lack of gate round the pool contributed to this tragedy then I do think that should be made public, because it could make other people think.

I think there’s a real possibility they could face charges if it’s deemed they didn’t have the correct safety measures in place - and I think that’s really the only thing that should be made public here.

Either, they had the safety measures in place but sadly they weren’t enough in this case or they didn’t have the correct/legal safety measures in place and it was entirely preventable and an accident waiting to happen.

 

[Yesweknowyouhavekids]

There’s just no point in speculating on how Trigg passed and what the circumstances were. We will never know and that should be kept private. They are good parents and loved their sons very much so regardless of how it happened, it’s devastating. Pointing fingers, blame, he-insight are what tears families apart after tragedy like this. Only the people who know exactly what happened have right to comment - and that is triggs immediate family. All these rumours are unnecessary.

It should be treated as all other cases are. If it’s in the public domain for others I don’t think rules should be changed because they chose to make their life public. It’s not about pointing fingers and blame as such it’s about safeguarding children . Parents don’t always do this. Would you feel the same if it was a facility where a vulnerable adult with dementia came to harm because appropriate safety measures weren’t in place? Children are not just property of their parents and if they die oh well. They are their own people in the eyes of the law and deserve to live a long life and meet their full potential

 

[Wildflower18]

Sadly the fact the statement from her legal team that she wasn’t home at the time to me hints she blames his dad. It’s a bit “I wasn’t home, I can’t be blamed” for me. Others may disagree.

Hmm maybe. I didn't read it like that. I read it as 'I wasn't home so I didn't see anything and I don't want to see it now by reviewing the footage' i.e. to support her case.

 

[KYLIE]

There will always be intense public interest in the deaths of public figures, for freak accidents, etc. It's human nature - in the internet age.

Unfortunately, when influencers monetise everything from the diapers their babies wear to their everyday daily routines to a huge audience, this is the result.

 

[hakunamatata11111]

If that's true that's the most horrific thing ever no wonder she wants to seal records that proves brady was neglectful, wouldn't he got alert on his phone that alarm was going off and ignoring it ? Wouldn't he heard the door open, something is definitely not right for him to go out and pull his own kid out the pool. And ignoring emilies calls. What the heck was this dude doing that was distracting him so much.

In fairness, they have a newborn - perhaps Teddy was crying or needed changing etc. He could be sleep deprived too.

 

[ASAnigel]

Hmm maybe. I didn't read it like that. I read it as 'I wasn't home so I didn't see anything and I don't want to see it now by reviewing the footage' i.e. to support her case.

It’s funny how people interpret things different isn’t it, I just think it’s a bit telling that it was a statement mentioning her and not both of them. “We don’t want to watch the footage” etc, I think it’s quite deliberate it’s her but I could be wrong!

 

[Wildflower18]

It should be treated as all other cases are. If it’s in the public domain for others I don’t think rules should be changed because they chose to make their life public. It’s not about pointing fingers and blame as such it’s about safeguarding children . Parents don’t always do this. Would you feel the same if it was a facility where a vulnerable adult with dementia came to harm because appropriate safety measures weren’t in place? Children are not just property of their parents and if they die oh well. They are their own people in the eyes of the law and deserve to live a long life and meet their full potential

Records are only made public for the purpose of monitoring the government. Emilie is arguing that c.100 public records requests are being made not to monitor the government but due to 'commercial interest'. So should be treated differently to low profile cases IMO. Also, in Arizona, a court can rule to keep public records private if the release could cause 'substantial and irreparable private or public harm' - she's not asking to change the rules; she's arguing that this applies to her case.
That being said, I do hope some details come to light for the public to learn from, as others have said. Camera footage etc. just doesn't feel necessary especially when there is so much public interest it could go viral.
I think the investigation only closed very recently which might explain why the parents haven't made a statement yet.

 

[KnickKnackPaddyWhack]

Records are only made public for the purpose of monitoring the government. Emilie is arguing that c.100 public records requests are being made not to monitor the government but due to 'commercial interest'. So should be treated differently to low profile cases IMO. Also, in Arizona, a court can rule to keep public records private if the release could cause 'substantial and irreparable private or public harm' - she's not asking to change the rules; she's arguing that this applies to her case.
That being said, I do hope some details come to light for the public to learn from, as others have said. Camera footage etc. just doesn't feel necessary especially when there is so much public interest it could go viral.
I think the investigation only closed very recently which might explain why the parents haven't made a statement yet.

Bib - So she should be treated differently because she is a celebrity? She wanted to be famous and, unfortunately, this is the price of fame. You can’t build up a huge following and then demand special treatment if something goes wrong.

 

[Wildflower18]

Bib - So she should be treated differently because she is a celebrity? She wanted to be famous and, unfortunately, this is the price of fame. You can’t build up a huge following and then demand special treatment if something goes wrong.

No, not purely because she is a celeb; because the potential for harm if the records are released is much greater than for the average case. If it was an unknown person's child, the footage would be much less likely to go viral etc. There wouldn't be this media frenzy, which the release of records would only feed. Just because she shared her life online doesn't mean she can't have boundaries. Everyone is entitled to privacy. Especially in grief.

 

[storminaDcup]

No, not purely because she is a celeb; because the potential for harm if the records are released is much greater than for the average case. If it was an unknown person's child, the footage would be much less likely to go viral etc. There wouldn't be this media frenzy, which the release of records would only feed. Just because she shared her life online doesn't mean she can't have boundaries. Everyone is entitled to privacy. Especially in grief.

I completely agree. The media frenzy over this information is so gross. it makes me feel sick to the stomach to know the camera footage could make it online and potentially Theodore seeing it etc when he’s older. doesn’t bear thinking about

 

[Yesweknowyouhavekids]

I completely agree. The media frenzy over this information is so gross. it makes me feel sick to the stomach to know the camera footage could make it online and potentially Theodore seeing it etc when he’s older. doesn’t bear thinking about

Exactly the reasons why there should be laws preventing people using their children to gain notoriety in the first place. They can’t consent to everyone knowing where they live what nursery they go to their full names and date of birth nor the gross speculation when something terrible happens

 

[kitty_cat123]

In fairness, they have a newborn - perhaps Teddy was crying or needed changing etc. He could be sleep deprived too.

Well it's speculated that emilie took the baby to dinner with her, so i could understand if he was looking after a newborn and trigg because there could be a million and 1 things distracting him, giving him a bottle, Bathing him, changing him putting him down sleep i get it, but he i don't think he had the baby sooo that scraps every possibility for that situation, if it was just him and trigg goes back to the question of what was distracting him so intensely that he missed every notification, missed calls didn't notice his son missing from the house.

 

[Kittykat45]

Well it's speculated that emilie took the baby to dinner with her, so i could understand if he was looking after a newborn and trigg because there could be a million and 1 things distracting him, giving him a bottle, Bathing him, changing him putting him down sleep i get it, but he i don't think he had the baby sooo that scraps every possibility for that situation, if it was just him and trigg goes back to the question of what was distracting him so intensely that he missed every notification, missed calls didn't notice his son missing from the house.

Especially at 5/6pm! My son is the exact same age(bar a week between them) and goes to bed around 7pm, I know where he is the whole day, he doesn’t disappear at 5/6pm and I don’t know where he is, he’s always with me or in his bedroom playing if I’m upstairs cleaning, I always know his location. So why didn’t Brady? Like I said, not like he should be in bed and he’s snuck out, it’s late afternoon/early evening, you know where your child is

 

[Wildflower18]

Surely she would have saw the footage if she'd gotten a notification from the camera? The court documents say she hasn't seen it and doesn't want to.

I think it's just implied that she hasn't seen the footage in its entirety. She may have seen him in the pool, but not him being pulled from the pool and the resuscitation efforts, etc.

 

[Wildflower18]

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Well it's speculated that emilie took the baby to dinner with her, so i could understand if he was looking after a newborn and trigg because there could be a million and 1 things distracting him, giving him a bottle, Bathing him, changing him putting him down sleep i get it, but he i don't think he had the baby sooo that scraps every possibility for that situation, if it was just him and trigg goes back to the question of what was distracting him so intensely that he missed every notification, missed calls didn't notice his son missing from the house.

I wonder if Brady was in the shower. That's the most logical explanation I can think of for him not answering the phone and for not noticing Trigg had got out Either that or he fell asleep watching basketball, but you'd think he'd have awoken to the sound of his phone ringing.

 

[KnickKnackPaddyWhack]

We all know that people like to gossip (that’s why Tattle exist) and that people make stuff up for whatever reason so this should be taken with a healthy dose of salt nearby for pinching

 

[Wildflower18]

We all know that people like to gossip (that’s why Tattle exist) and that people make stuff up for whatever reason so this should be taken with a healthy dose of salt nearby for pinching

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Shocking! I could of course be wrong but this is starting to sound like more than just a rumour. So many seemingly credible comments saying the same thing now. Just beyond traumatic. Imagine seeing the tragedy unfold and being unable to get to your child in time. That has to be the worst form of torture for a mother. I read that she turned up straight after the police arrived.

 

[Lola UK]

Oh my god, if this is true it’s horrendous. The pure panic Emilie must have felt.

 

[Rippedjeanmaybe]

I just don’t see how he could have been alive for a week following this if he was in the water that long before being pulled out but obviously I’m not an expert.

 

[ahtisyourself]

I just don’t see how he could have been alive for a week following this if he was in the water that long before being pulled out but obviously I’m not an expert.

Yes, this is the main thing that’s making me doubt those online accounts. He would have been pronounced dead at the scene if no one was able to get to him for that length of time. I’d say there are bits of truths here and there but ultimately I believe there are many weirdos out there who make things up like this for clout and I wouldn’t rely too heavily on it being true.