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I was going to write a post anyway as I think TT has taken it a bit on the extreme edge anyway

Here's what I remember from the livestream I watched, I'll say if anything is my opinion/how I viewed it in italics just to try and keep things factual:
  • The kitten was rejected by the mother. She said that the litter was about 5 days old. Unknown whether it was rejected before the 5, or shortly before, day mark but I think it's safe to assume that it was in the morning or before noon as the livestream was at around 2 or 3PM (I made my first post about it while she was still live or soon after she had ended the live I think)
  • They did apparently try to have the kitten latch onto the mother, though it wasn't shown when they tried on the live. They couldn't try with the other cat (her litter was a day old or so at that point) as she is apparently protective of her own kittens and that's part of the reason they weren't picking them up also. They also didn't want to try because they were scared that it could lead the cat to reject her own kittens, I don't remember if they said this was specifically mentioned by the vet
  • The vet thing they kept coming back to and the info changed ever so slightly each time. Essentially, she said that she called the vets but they had no appointments and that her mother went out to get the supplies needed for feeding the kittens (syringes and cat milk) from them. Interestingly, she did not mention that she had made an appointment for another date or that the vets told her that the kitten needed an actual heat source (nor did she mention her mother getting this) or that she would need to stimulate peeing and pooing - kittens can't do this until they're a few weeks old by themselves. A lot of it was focused on how the vet specifically told Elphaba that she was responsible for looking after the kitten (or something to that effect), looking back at it it's definitely to make her look better and a bit narcissistic. I also simply don't think that she called the vets, Jack let it slip at one point that he had just Googled something too
  • Jack mentioned numerous times that the feeding time for the kitten was coming up, Elphaba then responded that her mother would probably be back in time for it with all of the supplies. Of course, how they fed the kitten to begin with is unknown. A lot of the chat at the time was saying no cow milk but I did not hear her specifically say that this is what they were using. Numerous people, including me, asked her repeatedly how she had fed the kitten without having syringes or cat milk to begin with and she did not answer those questions which I found a bit concerning. It doesn't make a lot of sense from the timeline of events also (the kitten is rejected, [presumably here or somewhere after they called the vet they fed the kitten?] they call the vet and her mother goes to get supplies) or they did have some form of kitten milk (I'm thinking like ones they sell at Asda/Tesco/wherever) but they didn't buy enough which ??? huh.

Here's some other stuff:
  • According to some TT comments Elphaba said that her mother cannot afford the vet suggesting that the kitten never saw the vet. She's now claiming that the kitten did see the vet - cannot confirm whether this was actually said because I've not seen any videos and it was not mentioned when I watched the live
  • According to some TT comments the kitten was rejected because they were handling it too much - this appears to be a myth. Kittens get rejected because there's something wrong with them, as I'd understand Elphaba is now claiming for this to be the case :
  • In the most recent clips of her talking about this she says that both her and Jack (they both said yes to feeding it every two hours and Jack said 'we') fed the kitten every two hours. I remember watching clips of her most recent live when I woke up and I couldn't make out whether she was home or at her mother's - if she was home, where was the kitten? Her lives also tend to last more than 2 hours and you'd think that someone would have taken a clip of her feeding the kitten? ALSO, I don't remember there being any clips of Jack (who seems to have a pretty strict night routine so might not wake up every two hours) or hearing his voice in any clips I watched. Of course, she could have fed it on her own. Someone might wanna check this whole thing out if they have the effort

My personal opinion is that they all ducked up. Elphaba isn't the sole person to blame for this. It is her mother's cat that gave birth to said litter and the kitten presumably stayed at the mother's house, whether Elphaba was there the whole time who knows - when she announced the kitten's passing she appeared to be at home rather than at her mother's and the crying would suggest that she also recently found out possibly. Rejected kittens are a ton of work around the clock and I simply don't think anyone responsible would trust Elphaba and Jack to do this alone
Wow thank you for explaining that all in detail. That is so sad. I wouldn't want any pet in the care of Elphaba,Jack or Elphaba's mother. I believe Jack's dog Kai is a bit older than a puppy? But I'm still worried about Cardiff and the state the dog will live in there with those two.

Do they dislike her though? I can guarantee they don't even know her. It's just bullying and it's horrible.
Yeah it is, I think George hates her and wants views but I've no idea what drama cubs have against her
 
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Wow thank you for explaining that all in detail. That is so sad. I wouldn't want any pet in the care of Elphaba,Jack or Elphaba's mother. I believe Jack's dog Kai is a bit older than a puppy? But I'm still worried about Cardiff and the state the dog will live in there with those two.


Yeah it is, I think George hates her and wants views but I've no idea what drama cubs have against her
Honestly the thought of those two looking after a dog really worries me. They’re a massive responsibility and Elphie has shown she can’t even be bothered to wash most days, Nevermind walk a dog and fully take care of it. Also, how will they afford vet bills if it’s unwell?
 
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This is probably an unpopular opinion but I feel like people have taken the kitten thing and ran with it as an excuse to just abuse elphaba. Kittens die and get rejected all the bleeping time, I don’t think I’ve heard of a litter of kittens where 1 hasn’t kicked it within a few hours of life. It’s sort of crazy to automatically blame elphie for that, yeah it’s sad but at the end of the day it’s just a kitten after all and often these things happen without reason and there’s nothing you can do.
 
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This is probably an unpopular opinion but I feel like people have taken the kitten thing and ran with it as an excuse to just abuse elphaba. Kittens die and get rejected all the bleeping time, I don’t think I’ve heard of a litter of kittens where 1 hasn’t kicked it within a few hours of life. It’s sort of crazy to automatically blame elphie for that, yeah it’s sad but at the end of the day it’s just a kitten after all and often these things happen without reason and there’s nothing you can do.
I agree about the kitten thing being blown out of proportion but I think she doesn’t help herself when she lies. Saying she’s been to the vet and they advised this and that. Just be honest. Everything is a tall story with that girl 🙄
 
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I saw her live on my fyp last night when I got in from work it was about half 1 in the morning i think and she was out in a club she looked sad a bit miserable like she wasn’t having fun. She was constantly looking back down to the live

is elphie constantly on live? She must come off when she’s going to sleep or going to the toilet and other personal things like that
 
I saw her live on my fyp last night when I got in from work it was about half 1 in the morning i think and she was out in a club she looked sad a bit miserable like she wasn’t having fun. She was constantly looking back down to the live

is elphie constantly on live? She must come off when she’s going to sleep or going to the toilet and other personal things like that
Nah she fell asleep on live last night and woke up and was like, eight hours…I’m sorry guys.
 
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I saw her live on my fyp last night when I got in from work it was about half 1 in the morning i think and she was out in a club she looked sad a bit miserable like she wasn’t having fun. She was constantly looking back down to the live

is elphie constantly on live? She must come off when she’s going to sleep or going to the toilet and other personal things like that
She was miserable bc she was supposed to be clubbing with her mum but her mum left around 10/10:30
 
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Does this person do a constant 24/7 live stream? I swear any time I flick onto tiktok their lives pop up. I don’t understand how 1000 people watch it?
 
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Her Mum is 100% an alchy, because its only 1pm and she isn't slurring or talking all slow!

Nothing to do with her teeth. She's a vile, abusive drunk
 
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Her Mum is 100% an alchy, because its only 1pm and she isn't slurring or talking all slow!

Nothing to do with her teeth. She's a vile, abusive drunk
I didn’t want to say anything but I definitely think the two of them have some sort of poor relationship with alcohol 🤐

Elphaba gets very defensive when alcoholism is mentioned in any way


I haven’t been watching much of her but she pops up on my FYP sometimes and she seems to have gone back to being delusional about her fame. And she’s been back on battling constantly which is boring to watch. I guess the move to Cardiff needs money
 
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Ofc her mums an alcoholic, elphie has FAS (fetal alcohol syndrome) if you can’t give it up whilst you’re pregnant, you’re never really going to 🤷🏻‍♀️
 
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Ofc her mums an alcoholic, elphie has FAS (fetal alcohol syndrome) if you can’t give it up whilst you’re pregnant, you’re never really going to 🤷🏻‍♀️
Well she said she does, but sometimes you have to take what she says with a pinch of salt.

She's live with that hideous Gracey who looks like a pug.
 
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I wont be able to take Jack being on her live everyday from now on now they’re living together
 
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