I would like to be religious because I like the idea of believing in something bigger than me and having a community in the area you live in. But I just don’t believe, no matter how hard I try. I find it all interesting but maybe I just like it from an academic point of view than being an actual believer. Plus I find the stories in the Bible often contradict themselves and don’t really align with what Jesus and God is meant to be?
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I had a Catholic upbringing (belting out absolute bangers in primary school assembly). I think Jesus existed in human form and today he would be recognised as some sort of cult leader perhaps.
I don't believe that people turned into pillars of salt or flounced around in amazing technicolour dreamcoats though.
I don't believe that people turned into pillars of salt or flounced around in amazing technicolour dreamcoats though.
I just don't understand if there was someone that cared for everyone then why do wars happen? Why do children die all the time why does cancer exist?
This is what I don’t understand either especially when there are terrible people in the world that don’t even catch a cold.
Exactly. I want to believe when we die we get rewarded for how we've been kind of thing. But I can't believe in something that makes people so cruel that creates a disease that kills millions
To answer the first part about wars, I think (from my religious studies) it’s because God gave human’s free will?
If he’s all-knowing, surely God knew how that would turn out?
We used to have a JW neighbour and I loved our little debates. She could never answer that question!
If he’s all-knowing, surely God knew how that would turn out?
We used to have a JW neighbour and I loved our little debates. She could never answer that question!
He created everything *cough* so he created cancer that his people will get and die from he created sadam Husain to kill how many people was it? He created Putin to drop how many bombs on Ukraine he made men bit and overpowering to grape his women did he?
I'd consider myself agnostic. I don't have any problems with believing and do wonder what's out there myself, but I really, really don't like what organised religion has done to this world. So much hate and division as a result. Growing up Catholic, I've definitely seen the less than savoury side of the Catholic Church for myself and the way that people can be treated. It's so wrong to me.
Yes! I do.
I was brought up Catholic. Long lapsed.
I do believe Jesus existed as a person, the bigger question is do I believe in God? That I can't answer. I would like to think there is a something bigger than us and there is life after death otherwise, what is the point of us and our existence?
I do believe Jesus existed as a person, the bigger question is do I believe in God? That I can't answer. I would like to think there is a something bigger than us and there is life after death otherwise, what is the point of us and our existence?
I sometimes can't decide if I believe in God and that Jesus was the son of God (which I do) because I want to, as it brings me great comfort, or that I actually do.
Somebody upthread asked a very good question - why does a compassionate God let horrible things happen? Why do so many people suffer? I don't know. And can't even think of a logical reason for it. But it doesn't alter my faith. It's wierd - I don't even understand it myself sometimes
Somebody upthread asked a very good question - why does a compassionate God let horrible things happen? Why do so many people suffer? I don't know. And can't even think of a logical reason for it. But it doesn't alter my faith. It's wierd - I don't even understand it myself sometimes
The greatest fiction novel of all time is the bible.
Listened to an interview with Margaret Atwood today. She was asked why the stories of the bible have persisted for so long. She said because they’re great stories… full of sex and violence.
As an aside, as a lapsed Catholic, I am so happy with the direction the church has taken with the selection of the last two popes. I am hoping that Leo can exert a positive influence on the world and world leaders.
There is a new pilgrimage programme on Radio 4 next week.
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BBC Radio 4 - Ramblings, Camino de Santiago with Manni Coe
Clare is on the Camino de Santiago walking with guide and author Manni Coe.
Has anybody done a pilgrimage? Like the Camino? I'm often quite tempted but am massively unfit, not suited to warm weather and have IBS - apart from thatThere is a new pilgrimage programme on Radio 4 next week.
BBC Radio 4 - Ramblings, Camino de Santiago with Manni Coe
Clare is on the Camino de Santiago walking with guide and author Manni Coe.
My friend did a three day retreat type thing in Ireland some years ago which involved lots of walking up mountains with no shoes, silence and little food. Sounded ghastly tbh but she got something from it.
Used to go short hill walks but never those sort of treks, definitely not in bare feetHas anybody done a pilgrimage? Like the Camino? I'm often quite tempted but am massively unfit, not suited to warm weather and have IBS - apart from that
My friend did a three day retreat type thing in Ireland some years ago which involved lots of walking up mountains with no shoes, silence and little food. Sounded ghastly tbh but she got something from it.
It's the sort of trek that's do-able though, just pace yourself & make a holiday out of it type thing.