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It's not formally listed as the brand of course 🤣 but for the 2 x a year I wear a belt...it will do 🤣
Run! They’re coming! 😉🤣
 
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Run! They’re coming! 😉🤣
I can easily splash £400 on a basket bag but couple hundred on a belt and I'm like good grief no 🤣 but then bag gets alot of use. Belt does not lol
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ETA £460 for a Celine belt. Absolutely not 🤣
 
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I can easily splash £400 on a basket bag but couple hundred on a belt and I'm like good grief no 🤣 but then bag gets alot of use. Belt does not lol
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ETA £460 for a Celine belt. Absolutely not 🤣
I don't really wear belts either and I absolutely hate the massive logo'd Gucci and Valentino ones ('pologies to those who have them!)
 
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I’ve just seen there’s a 10% off at Harrods rewards weekend coming up. That was when I got my Loewe basket bag last year. Tempted by a Bayswater tote if it’s included this time!
 
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I can easily splash £400 on a basket bag but couple hundred on a belt and I'm like good grief no 🤣 but then bag gets alot of use. Belt does not lol
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ETA £460 for a Celine belt. Absolutely not 🤣
Is it actually leather too??👀
 
Idk if this warrants a separate thread - but interested to hear what you guys (especially you @Dizzy !) think about the normalisation of Hermès bags and the relentless content being churned out about them aimed at young women? 👀
 
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I don't really wear belts either and I absolutely hate the massive logo'd Gucci and Valentino ones ('pologies to those who have them!)
I nearly got a Gucci belt and I’m soooo glad that I didn’t. Still really want a Celine belt but I want Celine everything so what’s new 😔
 
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Idk if this warrants a separate thread - but interested to hear what you guys (especially you @Dizzy !) think about the normalisation of Hermès bags and the relentless content being churned out about them aimed at young women? 👀
OOh interesting, what do you mean? Maybe I'm a bit old and I don't frequent TikTok although I do Insta, but would be interested in this
 
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I bought a Gucci GG belt several years ago and sold it when they started getting faked all over the place. I only lost about £40 on it! I do miss having a “nice” belt, I’d say I’m a belt person. I was looking at the reversible Loewe ones as it seems like good value to get 2 in 1? “Only” £325!
 
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This might not be the right thread but does anyone have any recommendations about a good sun cream for your face? I have very sensitive skin so lots of products cause irritation or spots 😏 I’ve gone off my usual body shop one. As a face range I use Clinique, has anyone tried their sun cream?
 
This might not be the right thread but does anyone have any recommendations about a good sun cream for your face? I have very sensitive skin so lots of products cause irritation or spots 😏 I’ve gone off my usual body shop one. As a face range I use Clinique, has anyone tried their sun cream?
Beauty Pie do a great face sun cream, very light but a really high SPF. My teenage daughter uses it with no problems.
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Idk if this warrants a separate thread - but interested to hear what you guys (especially you @Dizzy !) think about the normalisation of Hermès bags and the relentless content being churned out about them aimed at young women? 👀
So, I don't think I'm aware of this 🤔 I don't see any Hermes bags where I live as they're really not the norm around here (I wore my Orans yesterday and was stood in a queue in Boots. I could see in the reflection of the window some girls stood behind me talking about them 😂 ) I can't recall seeing any Hermes (aside from footwear) on my feeds either. So is this where Hermes is taking the brand? Basically down the same route as Chanel?
 
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Idk if this warrants a separate thread - but interested to hear what you guys (especially you @Dizzy !) think about the normalisation of Hermès bags and the relentless content being churned out about them aimed at young women? 👀
This really reminds me of the normalisation of Van Cleef & Arpels. Not to sound like a pick me but I actually knew of this brand years and years ago as an avid Vogue/ELLE reader and loved the Alhambra collection but obviously £4k+ was well out of my price range. Cut to current day and this brand is as common as a high street chain!? Admittedly a lot are copies but it's become a 'status' symbol like the Cartier Love bracelet and it's just.....idk
 
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This might not be the right thread but does anyone have any recommendations about a good sun cream for your face? I have very sensitive skin so lots of products cause irritation or spots 😏 I’ve gone off my usual body shop one. As a face range I use Clinique, has anyone tried their sun cream?
I have a few that I love in different price ranges. From cheapest to most expensive:
Beauty of Joseon relief sun spf, Paula's Choice youth extending liquid, Skinceuticals oil shield uv defense spf. All of them are spf 50 and these are the only ones I've found that don't break me out
 
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This really reminds me of the normalisation of Van Cleef & Arpels. Not to sound like a pick me but I actually knew of this brand years and years ago as an avid Vogue/ELLE reader and loved the Alhambra collection but obviously £4k+ was well out of my price range. Cut to current day and this brand is as common as a high street chain!? Admittedly a lot are copies but it's become a 'status' symbol like the Cartier Love bracelet and it's just.....idk
Yeah I agree. I was at a dinner with work colleagues, all women, ranging from early 20s to nearly 60. A couple of the older ladies had genuine designer items - a Rolex, a Mulberry handbag, a pair of Ralph Lauren loafers - but the younger ones were all wearing fakes. There were the aforementioned Van Cleef and Cartier Love bracelets (4 in total, on the same person!), Orans, a Jacquemus bag and a Balenciaga t-shirt. I get it - I love posh tit, I understand that people want nice, fancy things, but yeah, like you, I just don't know.....
 
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It is interesting and I’d read a thread about it! I’m wondering if perhaps millennials wouldn’t be seen dead in such obvious fakes (Celine belts aside 😅) but Gen Z don’t care so much? Or are they just too young to be aware of how it looks to have £20k+ worth of jewellery stacked up your arm in your 20s? Personally I’d be cringing for them but maybe I am just a staid millennial 🤣
 
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This really reminds me of the normalisation of Van Cleef & Arpels. Not to sound like a pick me but I actually knew of this brand years and years ago as an avid Vogue/ELLE reader and loved the Alhambra collection but obviously £4k+ was well out of my price range. Cut to current day and this brand is as common as a high street chain!? Admittedly a lot are copies but it's become a 'status' symbol like the Cartier Love bracelet and it's just.....idk
Yes!! This is another one!! Years and years ago at work we did a research project on HNWIs and that was the first time I’d even heard of them, and the financial situations for that studied cohort was SO far removed from the people you see on social media wearing it. Even Molly Mae who imo is a key person in popularising them with the huns is currently high income isn’t in the realms of the HNWIs that shop at these brands and can genuinely afford (on every level, like there is no opportunity cost of that money because you have enough money to cover your next 5 generations).

I appreciate there’s a lot of fakes about, but fake or not I feel so deeply uncomfortable with young women feeling like these items are remotely normal for anyone in their life stage to have? Like most influencers are from intergenerational wealth so their income is just for discretionary spending, and don’t get me wrong I’m no Dave Ramsey telling ppl to drive around in styrofoam kebab boxes to save a few quid, but I worry that financial literacy in this country is so poor you’ll have young women financing these purchases at a time of ever increasing interest rates. Even if they’re cash buyers how many of them have a net worth anything close to the realm of what such a purchase would make sense for?

I know ppl have free will but idk, influencer content is so insidious and prays upon people’s insecurities. And yes some people will stretch themselves for a £1k bag and that’s also not gr8 but is still recoverable, as the stakes rise it’s just concerning to see this content growing exponentially in a vacuum of honesty? Like again an age old issue with influencers - and this applies to houses and #renos too - but I do wish the girls creating this content would say look I don’t need to pay for a house deposit or school fees or pension so my salary is just for discretionary spending and excessive consumption lbr. Because there will be women that miss out on ever having these things because they never clocked. These things are not normal, and not needed, like the ultimate luxury is financial security at the end of the day but this never gets discussed, or even an honourable mention. Then again every month it comes out that an influencer or reality star girly was living far beyond their means so maybe they’re ducked too.

I also can’t help but wonder what’s going to happen in 2/3 years when these items are passé and the preloved market becomes flooded? This is witchy but I find it so hard to believe all these young women genuinely find these Queen Mother looking bags gorgeous and will wear them beyond this period of posturing. So when the market is flooded with them and the fakes, in the colours they didn’t really want but settled for, is anything beyond the black bags gonna go for anything? The Cartier love bands tanked didn’t they? Idk. It’s a yikes from me.
 
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Yes!! This is another one!! Years and years ago at work we did a research project on HNWIs and that was the first time I’d even heard of them, and the financial situations for that studied cohort was SO far removed from the people you see on social media wearing it. Even Molly Mae who imo is a key person in popularising them with the huns is currently high income isn’t in the realms of the HNWIs that shop at these brands and can genuinely afford (on every level, like there is no opportunity cost of that money because you have enough money to cover your next 5 generations).

I appreciate there’s a lot of fakes about, but fake or not I feel so deeply uncomfortable with young women feeling like these items are remotely normal for anyone in their life stage to have? Like most influencers are from intergenerational wealth so their income is just for discretionary spending, and don’t get me wrong I’m no Dave Ramsey telling ppl to drive around in styrofoam kebab boxes to save a few quid, but I worry that financial literacy in this country is so poor you’ll have young women financing these purchases at a time of ever increasing interest rates. Even if they’re cash buyers how many of them have a net worth anything close to the realm of what such a purchase would make sense for?

I know ppl have free will but idk, influencer content is so insidious and prays upon people’s insecurities. And yes some people will stretch themselves for a £1k bag and that’s also not gr8 but is still recoverable, as the stakes rise it’s just concerning to see this content growing exponentially in a vacuum of honesty? Like again an age old issue with influencers - and this applies to houses and #renos too - but I do wish the girls creating this content would say look I don’t need to pay for a house deposit or school fees or pension so my salary is just for discretionary spending and excessive consumption lbr. Because there will be women that miss out on ever having these things because they never clocked. These things are not normal, and not needed, like the ultimate luxury is financial security at the end of the day but this never gets discussed, or even an honourable mention. Then again every month it comes out that an influencer or reality star girly was living far beyond their means so maybe they’re ducked too.

I also can’t help but wonder what’s going to happen in 2/3 years when these items are passé and the preloved market becomes flooded? This is witchy but I find it so hard to believe all these young women genuinely find these Queen Mother looking bags gorgeous and will wear them beyond this period of posturing. So when the market is flooded with them and the fakes, in the colours they didn’t really want but settled for, is anything beyond the black bags gonna go for anything? The Cartier love bands tanked didn’t they? Idk. It’s a yikes from me.
Yes yes yes! Nail on the head as always! I love the point you make about financial security being the ultimate luxury. I've only really recognised this as I've got older and I can't lie, I am still loathe to spend too much on "nice stuff" but I think with age comes (hopefully) a bit of wisdom and we learn to make more measured purchases. The yoofs generally don't have that wisdom yet; middle age seems a million years away, the latest bag/bracelet/pair of shoes is all over their social media and they want it.
 
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Yes!! This is another one!! Years and years ago at work we did a research project on HNWIs and that was the first time I’d even heard of them, and the financial situations for that studied cohort was SO far removed from the people you see on social media wearing it. Even Molly Mae who imo is a key person in popularising them with the huns is currently high income isn’t in the realms of the HNWIs that shop at these brands and can genuinely afford (on every level, like there is no opportunity cost of that money because you have enough money to cover your next 5 generations).

I appreciate there’s a lot of fakes about, but fake or not I feel so deeply uncomfortable with young women feeling like these items are remotely normal for anyone in their life stage to have? Like most influencers are from intergenerational wealth so their income is just for discretionary spending, and don’t get me wrong I’m no Dave Ramsey telling ppl to drive around in styrofoam kebab boxes to save a few quid, but I worry that financial literacy in this country is so poor you’ll have young women financing these purchases at a time of ever increasing interest rates. Even if they’re cash buyers how many of them have a net worth anything close to the realm of what such a purchase would make sense for?

I know ppl have free will but idk, influencer content is so insidious and prays upon people’s insecurities. And yes some people will stretch themselves for a £1k bag and that’s also not gr8 but is still recoverable, as the stakes rise it’s just concerning to see this content growing exponentially in a vacuum of honesty? Like again an age old issue with influencers - and this applies to houses and #renos too - but I do wish the girls creating this content would say look I don’t need to pay for a house deposit or school fees or pension so my salary is just for discretionary spending and excessive consumption lbr. Because there will be women that miss out on ever having these things because they never clocked. These things are not normal, and not needed, like the ultimate luxury is financial security at the end of the day but this never gets discussed, or even an honourable mention. Then again every month it comes out that an influencer or reality star girly was living far beyond their means so maybe they’re ducked too.

I also can’t help but wonder what’s going to happen in 2/3 years when these items are passé and the preloved market becomes flooded? This is witchy but I find it so hard to believe all these young women genuinely find these Queen Mother looking bags gorgeous and will wear them beyond this period of posturing. So when the market is flooded with them and the fakes, in the colours they didn’t really want but settled for, is anything beyond the black bags gonna go for anything? The Cartier love bands tanked didn’t they? Idk. It’s a yikes from me.
100% agree with everything you've said here.

I have a Jacques du Manoir watch which looks very much like a Rolex. A couple of extended family members mistook it for a Rolex and nearly grabbed it off my wrist like OMG let me see!! I explained it's not a Rolex, and they then proceeded to show me their Rolex's. Now bear in mind they don't work, they are on the waitlist for a council house (absolutely no issue with this - just setting the scene), have recently had babies but are always wearing labels (fake or real idk but the point is, even fakes cost money!). It's like they're so hyper tuned in to what they think they should have and from the outside look like they are living the high life but the pressure to maintain this is just crazy.

Anyway this is just a small example and kind of off topic from Designer Items but yeah, the pressure of todays influencer society has a lot to answer for.
 
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