A very unfair statement….. It’s not really as simple as that tbh…. I am pregnant too and I have chosen to wait until my baby is born…. It’s too new and there isn’t a way to know will it have an effect on a baby yet.She should be ashamed of herself. She had the chance to get vaccinated and chose not to. Covid should not be coming into maternity hospitals at this stage
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Thats a little harsh. She was late in her pregnancy and wouldnt have been the only person who opted not to have the vaccine,She should be ashamed of herself. She had the chance to get vaccinated and chose not to. Covid should not be coming into maternity hospitals at this stage
Ah it's such a tough one. I don't think anyone should be judged for taking or not taking the vaccine. I am pregnant too and did take it but I'm definitely nervous about it. For me, having previously had a stillbirth, the very real and known risk of placental issues with covid outweighed all of the potential future risks of the vaccine. I had thought to hold off and just hope that it wouldn't catch up with me since it hasn't yet, but the new varient just feels too risky. I also felt that there is also a huge unknown in terms of how a mother contracting covid in pregnancy might affect the health of the baby long term, even if born safely.
Realistically no-one wants to be taking a new vaccine while pregnant, just as no-one wants to be contracting a virus with unknown consequences. It's just the crappy choices of a global pandemic. I spoke to a lot of trusted medical professionals and made my decision on that. It's about the balance of risk.
I think the real issue with Denise is not taking the vaccine and then also not taking any precautions to protect herself.
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I think it’s more than vaccinating yourself - it’s the people around you getting it . Limiting movements etc.
Irish maternity hospitals are shockingly under resourced . Not many women are treated to private rooms - or even on a personal experience help with a baby . Ppe - costs , holles street couldn’t afford me breast shields for a pump with a baby in nicu - staff - how many mams would love attention of a lactation specialist .
please god Denise will be aware of this - and use her platform to pay back how lucky she is to have received so much support.
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I didn’t get vaccinated during pregnancy. But I made sure to reduce my movements and the people I was around in the last weeks of my pregnancy. People like Denise are just selfish she just loved her life as everything was normal now infected herself and possibly the staff that have to look after her!
It's odd to me that she isn't highlighting that pregnant women should take extra precautions that Covid is very real and still dangerous.
She didn’t seem to be that sick so she probably thinks it’s all a load of nothing
You have said it so well
I’m so sorry for your previous loss 
I’m also pregnant and getting the vaccine was the toughest decision. I’m still worried about the new variant even with it, but for me I was worried I’d pick it up somewhere even though my circle is small but I’ve still a few months to go. A relative got Covid at 23 weeks and her baby was still born, it’s heart wrenching! Wishing you all the best in the rest of your pregnancy
Lots of pregnant women are choosing not to get vaccinated as it’s still relatively new & I respect anyone’s decision not to. If I was pregnant now I would have opted out, maybe in another year I’d feel differently about itShe should be ashamed of herself. She had the chance to get vaccinated and chose not to. Covid should not be coming into maternity hospitals at this stage
Yes - I respect any pregnant persons choice re vaccine. I don’t respect people breaking covid rules, & now putting other pregnant mothers & babies & staff at risk 
Aw that's so sad. I hope your friend is getting good support. I'm heavily involved in the stillbirth community and the numbers of unexplained second trimester losses is scary at the mo (people with previous covid). I'm 18 weeks now so it felt too long to try to ride it out for.You have said it so well
My son was stillborn at 42 weeks and I had a really bad cold a month before. I always wonder if it affected the placenta.
This, absolutely.Yes - I respect any pregnant persons choice re vaccine. I don’t respect people breaking covid rules, & now putting other pregnant mothers & babies & staff at risk
I don't mind anyone, whether pregnant or not, deciding against vaccine. Its a personal decision. I do have a massive issue with a pregnant woman traipsing around the country & socialising a couple of weeks before her due date putting her child, hospital staff and other patients at risk if she was to get it.
I do not and will not understand it.
I said before on here that I had a baby last year and I spent the last two months of pregnancy living like a hermit to avoid it at all costs. I don't know if I'd have taken a vaccine when pregnant but either way I'd still be doing everything to avoid unnecessary social contacts.
If I had gotten it in the last few weeks of pregnancy at least I'd have been happier knowing I'd taken every precaution possible and was just unlucky. Unlike this yoke going around like everything is normal.
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Like others I decided to get vaccinated while pregnant because of a previous loss I didn’t want to take any chances and I’m due in traditional flu season. That being said I wouldn’t judge anyone for not getting it.
What I can’t understand is not being super careful (even though I’m vaccinated we are still being cautious and vigilant as best we can), as I said I don’t follow Denise but from what has been said here she seems to have been out and about and not limiting contacts. I have utmost sympathy for anyone who contracts covid through no fault of their own but I’m just baffled by her attitude of doing little to protect herself and then all the responsibility of protecting other mums and babies from her being placed on healthcare workers. Maybe I’m reading her posts incorrectly but honestly the attitude is just bewildering. As another poster said you’d think she’d take the opportunity to highlight the potential dangers of covid and the extra pressure it places on maternity services.
What I can’t understand is not being super careful (even though I’m vaccinated we are still being cautious and vigilant as best we can), as I said I don’t follow Denise but from what has been said here she seems to have been out and about and not limiting contacts. I have utmost sympathy for anyone who contracts covid through no fault of their own but I’m just baffled by her attitude of doing little to protect herself and then all the responsibility of protecting other mums and babies from her being placed on healthcare workers. Maybe I’m reading her posts incorrectly but honestly the attitude is just bewildering. As another poster said you’d think she’d take the opportunity to highlight the potential dangers of covid and the extra pressure it places on maternity services.
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Sorry for your loss
I’m sure you know that covid is a huge risk to the baby too. I would just recommend that people take the advice of their doctor. That’s the best anyone can do.
She's 100% reading here as she's gone very quiet. She lives on her phone, I know that from being around her in real life (we're not friends just have been in the same proximity to each other many many times) and any wind of her being mentioned on tattle she'd be reading every comment. At least she's taking on board some advise from posters on this page....even if it is damage control on her behalf. Her baby is beautiful, hopefully she enjoys him and doesn't over expose him
I’m extremely pro vaccine in every sense. I understand completely why a pregnant lady might choose not to with this new jab (even if I would 100% take it while pregnant!).
The unforgivable part is the not limiting her movements to account for not being protected. She didn’t need to be out facing the public constantly, or packed into a restaurant socialising. Those were her choices, and now her chickens have come home to roost.
I’m delighted the baby seems healthy.
The unforgivable part is the not limiting her movements to account for not being protected. She didn’t need to be out facing the public constantly, or packed into a restaurant socialising. Those were her choices, and now her chickens have come home to roost.
I’m delighted the baby seems healthy.
Hospitals are short staffed as it is , someone blatantly disregarding advice to avoid catching covid should be ashamed for putting the staff under even more pressure , I had a loss last year and am
Now pregnant but had a bleed early on and thought I was losing this baby and had to be scanned alone in the same room where I got bad news last year it was terrifying , it drives me mad people that don’t give a tit about how their actions affect others , I’m glad everything worked out for Denise and the baby but I think she should be embarrassed about all the traipsing around she did
Now pregnant but had a bleed early on and thought I was losing this baby and had to be scanned alone in the same room where I got bad news last year it was terrifying , it drives me mad people that don’t give a tit about how their actions affect others , I’m glad everything worked out for Denise and the baby but I think she should be embarrassed about all the traipsing around she did
You can still catch covid even if vaccinated, it doesn’t stop from you catching it or spreading it. So vaccinated or not it wouldn’t have changed the outcome.She should be ashamed of herself. She had the chance to get vaccinated and chose not to. Covid should not be coming into maternity hospitals at this stage
That's not quite true though. Absolutely you can still catch it but you're significantly less likely to. It very probably would have changed the outcome.
I think the thing re vaccines is that everyone makes the best decision for them based on what they perceive the risks and benefits to be. We can go back and forth all day defending the standpoint that we ultimately took, but all it does is make other people feel bad and defensive of their decision.
Denise didn't take the vaccine which we all agree was reasonable but ultimately left her at higher risk for contracting, getting sick from and spreading covid. She then failed to mitigate that extra risk by cocooning, instead moving between multiple salons, going out for meals in large groups with no social distancing and god only knows what else. It's the combination of all of those things that people are upset about.
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