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Cactusflower

Cactusflower

Ravenstown said:
I watched this yesterday! What a complete weirdo.
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I’ve commented on this before on here but I worked with Neil back when he was a Registrar and then onto being a Consultant.
He was a lovely man, kind, thoughtful and extremely supportive of his junior colleagues.
He was an excellent Surgeon and had an extremely good bedside manner. Patients always spoke very highly of him as he was just so kind and gentle.
When he first became ill with sepsis everyone was extremely worried for him and concerned for his family.
This whole thing came as such a shock to everyone and I still struggle with hearing all the facts of the case which seem to have no relation to the man I worked & on occasions socialised with. I would never have believed him to be dishonest or so deeply disturbed.
The whole situation is a tragedy. His life is in tatters, he has lost his family and his career ( he was struck off by the GMC some time ago). My thoughts particularly go to his wife who is a lovely person and his children who will have to grow up knowing what their father did.
I also questioned myself as I always believed myself to be a good judge of character but obviously I am not.
He really wasn’t a “weirdo “ but he is obviously deeply disturbed. As I said just a tragedy all around.
 
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2ofeach

2ofeach

Cactusflower said:
I’ve commented on this before on here but I worked with Neil back when he was a Registrar and then onto being a Consultant.
He was a lovely man, kind, thoughtful and extremely supportive of his junior colleagues.
He was an excellent Surgeon and had an extremely good bedside manner. Patients always spoke very highly of him as he was just so kind and gentle.
When he first became ill with sepsis everyone was extremely worried for him and concerned for his family.
This whole thing came as such a shock to everyone and I still struggle with hearing all the facts of the case which seem to have no relation to the man I worked & on occasions socialised with. I would never have believed him to be dishonest or so deeply disturbed.
The whole situation is a tragedy. His life is in tatters, he has lost his family and his career ( he was struck off by the GMC some time ago). My thoughts particularly go to his wife who is a lovely person and his children who will have to grow up knowing what their father did.
I also questioned myself as I always believed myself to be a good judge of character but obviously I am not.
He really wasn’t a “weirdo “ but he is obviously deeply disturbed. As I said just a tragedy all around.
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I've yet to watch this although I do think it's been touched upon here before.

What I will say to you is don't doubt yourself for trusting, liking the person you saw as that was the persona he wanted you to see. I'm certain had he shown you his true self you'd have run a mile & raised the alarm to alert anyone, everyone.
 
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Melian

I don't know this case but there's a programme on channel 4 tomorrow at 9pm called Love You To Death. It's about a boy called Matthew. His mum is Lisa Hayden Johnson who fabricated Matthew's illness
 
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Ravenstown

Cactusflower said:
I’ve commented on this before on here but I worked with Neil back when he was a Registrar and then onto being a Consultant.
He was a lovely man, kind, thoughtful and extremely supportive of his junior colleagues.
He was an excellent Surgeon and had an extremely good bedside manner. Patients always spoke very highly of him as he was just so kind and gentle.
When he first became ill with sepsis everyone was extremely worried for him and concerned for his family.
This whole thing came as such a shock to everyone and I still struggle with hearing all the facts of the case which seem to have no relation to the man I worked & on occasions socialised with. I would never have believed him to be dishonest or so deeply disturbed.
The whole situation is a tragedy. His life is in tatters, he has lost his family and his career ( he was struck off by the GMC some time ago). My thoughts particularly go to his wife who is a lovely person and his children who will have to grow up knowing what their father did.
I also questioned myself as I always believed myself to be a good judge of character but obviously I am not.
He really wasn’t a “weirdo “ but he is obviously deeply disturbed. As I said just a tragedy all around.
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Thank you for your insight, it is extremely fascinating. It must be so unsettling to be so close to a jekyll and hyde character. People are very clever at manipulating others and situations to get what they want but very unnerving to feel someone like that walks among us, like frighteningly close to us.

Your post makes me think of Rex Heuermann's family being unable to marry the two side of their husband/ father.
 
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Be More Pacific

Be More Pacific

Still trying to find those missing two episodes of Murder 24/7 (no luck) but did come across a new four part documentary on this week on C4.

It's called The Never Ending Murder and it's about the case of Nicola Payne. First two parts are on Wednesday night starting at 9pm and the final two are on Thursday night.

I know this case. I followed the trial. I'm struggling to see how this is going to be stretched out for four hours if I'm honest 🤷🏻‍♀️

EDIT - says it's new but a quick Google confirms it's actually three years old. Looks like it was originally for made for Prime (maybe)
 
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LilPinkie

LilPinkie

Be More Pacific said:
Still trying to find those missing two episodes of Murder 24/7 (no luck) but did come across a new four part documentary on this week on C4.

It's called The Never Ending Murder and it's about the case of Nicola Payne. First two parts are on Wednesday night starting at 9pm and the final two are on Thursday night.

I know this case. I followed the trial. I'm struggling to see how this is going to be stretched out for four hours if I'm honest 🤷🏻‍♀️

EDIT - says it's new but a quick Google confirms it's actually three years old. Looks like it was originally for made for Prime (maybe)
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It’s not the one that was already shown on Sky is it? Everyone knows those who got off did it. It’s such a miscarriage of justice. I hope they find her one day but I feel it’s unlikely.
 
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hehehe

The Confession on Prime. ("Disappearance" of Patricia Hall.) I think I've seen this before but it still made me rage.

That evil wick bleeping killed her, there is nothing else to explain it. I agree the case was weak because the police ducked this up so badly. Just stupid. So arrogant they would get him convicted they didn't bother with the forensics and went straight to a honeytrap? STUPID. Today the police wouldn't make such a dog's dinner of the case and he would be prison.

To watch him sit there laughing, grinning, and till this day denying it, while her sister is still living in anguish, boiled my blood all over again.
 
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Kelly1822

Kelly1822

Be More Pacific said:
Still trying to find those missing two episodes of Murder 24/7 (no luck) but did come across a new four part documentary on this week on C4.

It's called The Never Ending Murder and it's about the case of Nicola Payne. First two parts are on Wednesday night starting at 9pm and the final two are on Thursday night.

I know this case. I followed the trial. I'm struggling to see how this is going to be stretched out for four hours if I'm honest 🤷🏻‍♀️

EDIT - says it's new but a quick Google confirms it's actually three years old. Looks like it was originally for made for Prime (maybe)
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Yes I watched this on prime maybe a year ago. Such a sad case for her family 😔
 
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PoppyKJ

Been watching murder trial on bbc iplayer. The dog walker one, what the actual hell?!
 
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Be More Pacific

Be More Pacific

2ofeach said:
Which episodes is this related to so I can search for them?
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It's season 8 and it's the two that were on last Thursday in the USA - maybe episodes 5 & 6 or 7 & 8. I've lost track, sorry - they are showing two episodes a week. Names of the episodes were High Speed Driver or Tragic Accident? and Arson Death or Family Tragedy?

They're not actually available officially here yet but #iykyk then you can to find them 😉
 
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2ofeach

2ofeach

Be More Pacific said:
It's season 8 and it's the two that were on last Thursday in the USA - maybe episodes 5 & 6 or 7 & 8. I've lost track, sorry - they are showing two episodes a week. Names of the episodes were High Speed Driver or Tragic Accident? and Arson Death or Family Tragedy?

They're not actually available officially here yet but #iykyk then you can to find them 😉
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Ah that's a shame.
I do have a firestick with an app 😉 but when I search it didn't come back with any hits so whilst I know I clearly dont know enough 😆
 
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