Crazy Middles and 22 Kids

[KTC]

Also, part of the reason they can run chores like this is because they have cameras all around the house, even in the kids’ bedrooms, and explained once how all the kids have to get dressed and changed in the bathrooms because of this all seems a bit cult like imo

Why do they even have the cameras in bedrooms though? If the kids got into a fight, ran away, stole something etc. you work through those problems like any biologically related family would. They can look on the cameras when their teens/young adults are sleeping. That's so weird.

 

[paigelemonade]

Lacey: her name is Bexley Cove Lopez
Eli: hahah she got my last name before you!

Anyone else think it’s a dickhead thing to say? Especially after Lacey mentioned in the crazy middles’ vlog that she was doing wifey things for Eli on a girlfriend’s salary. Idk it just seemed weird thing for Eli to say on camera to me

 

[Queen of the Thames]

I haven’t. Which videos can these be found in?

I’m not the tattler who mentioned it but here are the vlogs:

 

[Louisej3]

Both families have had kids stay with them after 18. For CM Cynthia is 18 now and Lacey stayed after she turned 18 and graduated. For CP Alex is still in the house even though he is older, and one of his friends is also living with them. Most of them seem to move out but part of that might be wanting more freedom. CM had a video on their rule book for their kids (actually I think it was in 2 parts) and there were a lot of rules and they are obviously both LDS as well so even though they say they don't make any of the kids follow their religion that might add to the rules the kids feel they have to follow in the house.

Alex is 19 and has said he like to move out soon, I'm guessing James is going too

I prefer watching the crazy pieces over the middles shelly comes across like she definitely the boss in the house, crystal seems more laid back

 

[KTC]

Shelly's the sort of person who will give the kids who are either her favourites or conform to exactly how she wants them to be more privileges. It's interesting that the only ones who have ever opted to stay over 18 are the ones we all knew were her favourites. Destiny, Cynthia & Lacey, but even Lacey moved out around the same time I noticed her becoming less of a favourite as it was all about Cynthia.

 

[Meisify2]

Another reason they might be all moving out at 18, bar what everyone has said already, maybe they're making room for more kids to be adopted?

Wouldn’t surprise me, they got to keep the “business” going somehow

 

[paigelemonade]

Nicole and lacey have always been kinda awkward with each other

I remember in a sibling tag in lockdown where Shelly said Lacey cried about no longer being the eldest girl living at home and asked if she’d been replaced when Nicole started living with them

 

[Prettyinpink25]

Maybe Crystals mum and brother?

Maybe! Seems odd but as would Shelley and Jarrod

 

[Sazie1]

I like them. They have a lot of children, but those children have better lifes because of them. I like the crazy pieces a bit more then the middles.

 

[paigelemonade]

 

[emi_]

That seems way too soon to be proposing, they can’t have been together that long and are still young. If it were my child I’d be encouraging him to give it more time but I’m sure crystal just squealed when Alex said he was proposing

 

[LLR]

They both have videos about it if you search "income". I think they said real estate (I believe I remember them doing up houses to rent), stock trading, app development for other YouTubers and then also the YouTube money and brand deals. Possibly some others, they definetely had their hands in a lot of different pots.

 

[Sazie1]

Can’t believe Lacey is pregnant! Wishing her all the best

Only think its really soon to tell it and put it in the vlogs. She‘s only 4 weeks.

 

[Meisify2]

I feel so bad for Brinley, they put more effort into Bladen’s birthday than hers. When he snatched the pop corn from Shelley and didn’t even say thank you, she didn’t even correct him

 

[paigelemonade]

Something gives me serious off vibes with laceys boyfriend, but I can’t quite put my finger on what.

Plus every time I see him I think of this

 

[Prettyinpink25]

I’m glad the middles are finally getting Annaveah and Braxton speech therapy! It’s long long overdue!

 

[pixxyy]

I'm new to the Crazy Middles, not watched the Pieces except 1 vid yet. But the click bait video titles jeez with posed sad faces

 

[lokencrepis]

Halie was very open about her issue being anxiety and honestly I think her issues are much most likely due to her exposure to the foster system because whilst she has living a great life with wealthy loving parents who are together and lots of siblings she's been exposed to all the kids coming in and out of the house. A lot of the kids are dealing with their own trauma but Halie, who was originally the oldest child before Alex and Melinda were adopted, has always been looking out for her younger siblings.

She seems highly empathetic and I think the exposure to the foster system has probably shown her too much of the evils of the world too young. They talk about a foster sister who Halie was really attached to and then their adoption for this child fell through as they were sent back to their bio parent. They talk about a child arriving with nothing and wearing a shower cap as she had headlice and Halie immediately offering to share her things. Foster care is traumatic for everyone involved.

I think getting away from everyone else and their trauma probably gave her the headspace to work on her own.

I am all for people fostering and adopting, but when its damaging the health of children already in your home? Surely thats when you need to have a bit of a regroup and think about the impact? This is beside the point of 'how can two people emotionally care for 20 odd traumatised and abused children' (the simple answer is you can't), it's 'our children are suffering, let's look after the ones we've already got'... why don't they see this? It's not heroic to adopt 10s of children, imo its heroic to raise some/a few children to be healthy, happy and absolute credits to themselves, their families and their community. Both the CM and CP are just doing all this for the money, it's blatantly obvious.

This is separate, but I don't understand why people think that Crystal and the rest of the CP are close/a good family environment?! Crystal acts about 16, Aaron looks high half the time, and those kids don't seem to have a parental or older adult connection with either of them. The lack of rules (compared to the CM household, and I don't think the rules at CM's are right... they're weird and controlling...) doesn't make them better parents imo, it just means that their underage children, who are vulnerable, don't have the regular routine and structure of life that they should. There needs to be a healthy balance, which I don't see from either family

 

[KTC]

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And that's the truth my life in a nutshell my babies are those that could be king and my princess time for Queen someday I definitely think time got the best of us and nobody learned to help me hand when we needed it the most nothing I did to this except for staying too long in the place I was at I need to see them I don't know why they stole them please somebody help me my family could care less they accuse me of years ago past depression or repressions I don't wish this on anybody it's been rough out here things keep happening one thing goes up do you think back down I think that I'm never going to get above water and start to float again but I believe I believe that I am strong that if I could go through what I've been through and just survive what I've been through lately I am capable of doing much more and working much more harder at it every day until I rest my head which is very hard I think of my children and I never said anything on here but I think it's time I think somebody should know I'm going to start to go fund me so that we could get a house and they can come visit me I really need the churches to pray HBC coffee chapel Southern Baptist I really hope they see this for somebody tells them about this of hers United will help I believe I have faith and I am most certain that my babies will pull through this okay it seems like they're doing okay which I wouldn't want anything less but to not be able to see me I don't know who to call or what to do went above and beyond in dire straits still I have a roof over my head quite possibly my store again but right now I'm just an employee I would love to have my cleaning company going and painting as well if anybody has any side jobs for me please let me know I really could use the money right now I'm trying to save up for a place maybe at least to buy or a down payment for a loan and I want to send the kids something maybe some money just to get what they need I hope somebody reads this cuz it just feels like a few and far between it will help me and most just want to give me a hard time and play games and I'm not even associating with anybody else it looks like my car isn't going to be moved I don't know where to put it I don't have anybody to look at it for me and they're cutting parts off of it and I'm just at a loss A lot of the time and pain the pain is so agonizing to being separated from that to just the time away from them and now they're keeping them from calling me this Foster family is not giving them the best that they need because they should have reached out to me but not who I was and what went on and asked me and research and if anything I pray that my children are okay and they end in the long run I did good I raise them well they're smart strong funny amazing children and young people know and I guess I just have to grow up and that's what people say and just live my life and find my purpose now but I say screw that it's girl anyone that wants to tell me that because you know what that isn't helping me that isn't helping me get a phone call or give me advice to a lawyer or anything because I did nothing wrong I had weed in my system the marijuana and my system and the car problems with the harassing of my neighbor and they constant hate from others I just wanted to stop I need to hear my baby's voice we are a team they're good great humans and then it'll be better citizens than I and that was my goal to learn from my parents' mistakes or my mother's and others and just do the best I could and I gave them everything I could without spoiling too much please if anybody has a dollar or $5 or anything to donate towards this it's going to be towards our home and repairs to my car please share this post to maybe someone could reach us in time they could help and would love to because that's what it's about I've been struggling with postpartum depression back when I had them but I still I pushed through it sometimes it had me so so tired that I was Moody and all kinds of things but I've had a hysterectomy I've learned to control my anger from my whole childhood to Young adulthood and being an adult how angry I just don't know where it comes from but I turn it into a good I turned into a positive and if anybody wants to take me shooting or sling some ink on me I am free game and outlets really are great for distresses I have a few the gym etc I just feel I have had nobody to really just deeply see me as a person as who I am as a great mother and I don't have to stretch the truth I would never do that anyway we need help they want to come home and their brainwashing my daughter right it seems or I don't know because she was my best friend she is my best friend and all she wanted to do was see her mom on her birthday last July and it's coming up on a year so please help us it hurts so bad every moment everything the reason for living is them my reason to wake up every day was them to see their faces their smiles they're accomplishments for the day and just teach them as much as I could and our bond is so strong that I feel like nobody could break it but I feel that it's happening and I'm so alone I feel so alone at times it I can't sidetrack myself anymore it's really too much and I don't want to change I don't want to get depressed again and it's there I mean I try to fight it but I sleep and I can't wake up the other night I was walking because my friend was not at the hotel and I couldn't get my room and I woke up to the police you know bumps on my head and they were hurting I really just don't understand I don't know what happened while I was asleep it's hard to say my head is so numb on the right side but on the brighter side I'll be okay and nobody to worry and if anybody has seen Austin chase hibbard please contact me or try your hardest to get a hold of him he went to LA almost 2 weeks ago and I really have not heard from him ever since before he left please pray for us... My children are bright young special children and they're my greatest accomplishment in life my reason for living when I just thought I just couldn't handle it anymore and I had nowhere to spend my love I'm standing it now till the day I see them again for visits or whatever but I don't have a good lawyer I don't have money and people have stolen employment etc I had a hard time holding on anything I've lost everything my storage is I mean I'm not an alcoholic I'm not a drug addict I'm not anything but sometimes I do certain things that just keep me up brighter spirits or what I need and distraction and support and prayer please !::__

Yikes. At first I thought she was talking about her older two as she said foster parents, but then she says how CP are brainwashing Savannah. She must know they're adopted and she hasn't a chance of getting them back?

 

[Meisify2]

They get money for the kids. More kids = more money, hence the reason they get kicked out as soon as they stop receiving money for them