Agreed. I take them before I go into the office, so if I had to pay for them, I wouldn't be that happy.
COVID-19 vaccine #7 and general vaccine conversation
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Testing will never be sustainable longterm 1 in 3 people don't even show symptoms I don't see why we should look for them when most people are fine to carry on with their day ,it's not protecting anyone from an air borne virus that travels in droplets from a passing encounter it's blowing in the wind.
Yip I'm very vary I had AZ but booster will be Moderna at docs or Pfizer at walk in ,don't know which is the better of the two evils .I hope your husband has recovered .
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My brother had the first two Pfizer vaccines, but has been left with crippling lower back and leg pain which makes it difficult for him to walk properly. He was a previously healthy 27 year old running around doing half marathons before this. He will not be taking the 3rd booster.
With an already weakened heart it's not something I would do. He needs to decide if the risks of covid outweigh another bad reaction. What does your gut instinct tell you?
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Thought so! I bet it has originated in the UK
I am sorry that you feel that way MensaBarbie1985 I believe that Lockdown had a huge impact on a lot of people's mental health (mine as well).
Also it was tough on relationships and parents and people on the front lines and workers and families and really it's very hard to see any positives that came out of it?
It must be hard for you having previously been fit and healthy and now living with compromised health? Having long term ill health can have a detrimental effect on anyone?
I also have lived with various long term health problems all my life (including heart problems) and sometimes all I can do is just manage it to the best of my abilities but it can be draining and depressing sometimes?
We are all human and we can all be vulnerable and we all lead imperfect lives and make choices that are rapidly becoming very limited and yet can have serious consequences? It's so easy to feel paralyzed or despondent sometimes in my opinion the responsibility has never weighed so heavily on any of us? Yet the pressure feels put on us and not on the powers that be? When was the last time they had to make hard choices or sacrifice? Yeah that would be never then?
All I would add (and I am not trying to change your mind about anything and I hope you don't think I am being too interfering?) Is that in my opinion try not to get very angry about other people's choices to take the vaccine or not?
It's just added stress for you (that you don't need) and emotional over investment and it's not going to change anything and in the long term might actually make you feel worse?
We cannot change others at the end of the day even if we believe they are wrong we can only change our own behaviour or response to things?
Yeah easy for me to say right and if you've read any of my previous posts you're entitled to roll your eyes even call me a hypocrite because there have been plenty of times on Tattle life that I have made angry posts or argued or been heavy handed or too forceful?
The thing is though everything has its limits and it's natural end and I realised that all I was doing was engaging in self sabotage (alienating others?)
I am not saying that is the case for you but I realise how quickly tempers can escalate or already tired nerves get worn out?
Yes it's good to have convictions and be passionate and defend ourselves and what we believe in but even if life turns into a sometimes battle for survival (or can feel like it) it doesn't have to be a war or a fight? Or have a violent end?
I feel like you have internalised a lot of stress and conflict and frustration (so have many me too) and are looking to resolve it but try to do that with more gentleness and compassion? It will come back to you?
We are living in confusing and contradictory times right now who can be entirely certain of anything right now? Sometimes things are not as they seem and it could also be that they are not as bad as they look? Although being ill being away from your family or home or country would naturally be pretty devastating? Things cannot stay the same way forever? Life can be hard and a challenge for all of us and that's the same vaccinated or unvaccinated we all have our own individual stories and hardships to contend with we are all human we are all just trying to make the best out of a sometimes bad situation?
At the end of the day we are all more than just a statistic or vaccine status or number to be manipulated or personal opinion or anecdote or horror story or conspiracy theory or personal medical history or scientific paper?
These things might be part of a personal narrative and help us make sense of the world but they don't define us completely and it's not good if we get lost in them or believe that's all there is to life?
Again not saying that's what you are doing but I know from experience how easy it is to get preoccupied and dominated by what is going on in the world? Which bloody hell doesn't even make sense half the time anyway?
I hope you enjoy your holiday and your life but also understand that others are only trying to do the same? Also you are you and unique and a individual the same as all of us and that a heavy handed one size fits all approach that the government is trying to implement (as if we are all just one big lumpy mass of people with no distinguishing or defining features) does not and can not work?
That's why differences should be understood and allowed and accommodated because we are all different and unique and worthy of exercising our own judgement and making our own equally valid choices?
Yes the choices we make do have an impact on each other for better or for worse but that's always been the case anyway and we don't need to have co vid rammed down our throats 24/7 to realise that?
Most people are responsible and sensible and intelligent enough to come to their own decisions and make their own choices without being spoon fed or coerced or bombarded with constant information? It would be great if we could all just live and let live,? Then maybe life would get easier for all of us?
God this is desperation if I've ever seen it!
Jon Craig really didn't sound sure about having it. Talk about being put on the spot!
Ffs, what now!?
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If we didn’t test symptomless people, compliance would hit the floor because there’d be very little to scare people with. Most of those thousands or even hundreds of thousands of cases in the news are made up of people who are A-OK. That’s why they do it and that’s why it does matter if people keep mindlessly testing, it is just prolonging this whole tit show.
It's about the record breaking booster targets they're hoping to achieve " keeping Omicron in check " .
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I just wanted to apologise for my previous behaviour on this thread and clarify a couple of points... hear me out
My upset and frustration is not aimed at people who are choosing not have the vaccines - it's towards the sheer incompetence and mismanagement we have seen from day 1, the constant adding and removing of restrictions and changing of goal posts, and the impact this is having on the world as a whole. I do get angry and frustrated at the sheer misinformation being spread around the vaccines but that's probably to do with the academic and work background that I have. A couple of my best friends haven't had the vaccine and don't plan to do so - I don't try and change their minds - we just don't talk about it around the dinner table
I never anticipated that Covid would have as much impact on my mental health as it has. I have suffered from mental ill health since the age of 5 and have Complex PTSD and ASD (diagnosed at age 34, previously misdiagnosed for many years with Borderline Personality Disorder). I feel like a lot of my life has been wasted due to the issues and problems I've had - however just before Covid I was finally able to access the therapy that I needed and complete a course of intensive treatment. After this I honestly felt amazing and was able to cope for the first time in my life - I literally felt like life was about to begin! Then lockdown hit and everything I would use to cope - gym, going out to work, socialising with friends - was suddenly cut short. It wasn't so bad to start with as I was in a relationship at the time but that has now also ended in a very acrimonious way. Plus I have had the added complications of an operation, Covid and now long Covid in the past few months alone. Unfortunately with the way my mental health has been anyway in those darkest moments I don't see the point of a life without living. I know I am lucky with the things I have and am able to do when I can but for example a luxury holiday doesn't make even a tiny bit of a difference to those dark days and I'd give everything up in a heartbeat to have that safe and loving home and family environment that I've always wanted
I really don't want anyone on here to feel like I've attached them and will honestly try and be more respectful of others going forward
My upset and frustration is not aimed at people who are choosing not have the vaccines - it's towards the sheer incompetence and mismanagement we have seen from day 1, the constant adding and removing of restrictions and changing of goal posts, and the impact this is having on the world as a whole. I do get angry and frustrated at the sheer misinformation being spread around the vaccines but that's probably to do with the academic and work background that I have. A couple of my best friends haven't had the vaccine and don't plan to do so - I don't try and change their minds - we just don't talk about it around the dinner table
I never anticipated that Covid would have as much impact on my mental health as it has. I have suffered from mental ill health since the age of 5 and have Complex PTSD and ASD (diagnosed at age 34, previously misdiagnosed for many years with Borderline Personality Disorder). I feel like a lot of my life has been wasted due to the issues and problems I've had - however just before Covid I was finally able to access the therapy that I needed and complete a course of intensive treatment. After this I honestly felt amazing and was able to cope for the first time in my life - I literally felt like life was about to begin! Then lockdown hit and everything I would use to cope - gym, going out to work, socialising with friends - was suddenly cut short. It wasn't so bad to start with as I was in a relationship at the time but that has now also ended in a very acrimonious way. Plus I have had the added complications of an operation, Covid and now long Covid in the past few months alone. Unfortunately with the way my mental health has been anyway in those darkest moments I don't see the point of a life without living. I know I am lucky with the things I have and am able to do when I can but for example a luxury holiday doesn't make even a tiny bit of a difference to those dark days and I'd give everything up in a heartbeat to have that safe and loving home and family environment that I've always wanted
I really don't want anyone on here to feel like I've attached them and will honestly try and be more respectful of others going forward
Unfortunately money can't buy you everthing your health will always be your wealth whether that be physical or mental. I wish you well and hope you can get back to that place where you feel best able to cope and can get the support to help you do that x
It is not hard for me to understand the meaning of asymptomatic but I was clearly talking about certain members of joe public and their needless testing obsession.
The bottom line is whatever our circumstances or opinions we've all seen decline in mental health either our own or our loved ones.
Something the government and media overlook.
@Misbehaving you KNOW that I love you. Your posts to me are always pause for thought.
The bottom line is whatever our circumstances or opinions we've all seen decline in mental health either our own or our loved ones.
Something the government and media overlook.
I would still test in the future but I dont have to pay for mine though
If you're in a healthcare setting it's different
I was more interested in if people did have to pay out of their own pocket would they be happy to keep doing so just out of interest
I don’t think you ever have to explain/justify yourself which I feel can happen a lot on this threads. Everyone can make an effort to try and be a little more respectful. I hope you have the right support around you and friends or family close by to help you get through this. X
Interesting thought here - see what you make of it
So my sister works for NHS for PREP which is assessments for GA's.
All patients have to have a swab 72 hours prior - some come back postive others dont
Before OMNICROM , when it was DELTA and that, anyone who lives with a postive contact dont have to isolate , only the patient themselves.
But now , if its OMNICROM, everyone has to isolate regardless of the vacc status.
However, their hospital pathology reports dont identify which variant it is so now they are having to tell all patients households to isolate if it comes back positive just to be on the safe side
So my sister works for NHS for PREP which is assessments for GA's.
All patients have to have a swab 72 hours prior - some come back postive others dont
Before OMNICROM , when it was DELTA and that, anyone who lives with a postive contact dont have to isolate , only the patient themselves.
But now , if its OMNICROM, everyone has to isolate regardless of the vacc status.
However, their hospital pathology reports dont identify which variant it is so now they are having to tell all patients households to isolate if it comes back positive just to be on the safe side
This is why it’s not worth putting a child through constant tests the schools and gov are not interested in school spread they’re gaslighting kids and parents 
you’re damned if you do damned if you don’t
you’re damned if you do damned if you don’t Hi, I just wanted to say my partner was also diagnosed with Complex PTSD a few years back as a result of some childhood trauma. It took a long time for him to even reach out and get help and an official diagnosis and was really improving before the pandemic. Unfortunately the pandemic has set him back quite considerably as he lost his job, was not entitled to furlough, and he basically shut himself away for months and refused to go outside or interact with others, even when lockdowns lifted. We have both been lucky in that our own physical health has been ok through the pandemic but he has really struggled mentally with returning to work - he's had five different jobs in the last year with the longest one only lasting two months. It's been really tough seeing how much he has regressed so I absolutely sympathise with your situation. I hope you are able to get the support you need just now and moving forward x
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