The thread was initially called ‘who else isn’t getting the covid vaccine’ but somewhere along the way it changed to vaccine discussions.To be fair, this thread was for those refusing the jab and general vaccine discussion
It actually was called this from the very first thread:The thread was initially called ‘who else isn’t getting the covid vaccine’ but somewhere along the way it changed to vaccine discussions.
No it wasn’t it was called ‘who else is not getting the covid vaccine’ I was quite active on the first thread and remember it being changed. I was also banned from commenting on one of them for arguing with a member (nothing new thereIt actually was called this from the very first thread:
“Refusing the Covid 19 vaccine & general vaccine conversation.”
It was a refusing the vaccine thread to start with……..I wish it had remained.I wish you would post more. I'd be interested. Add a bit of balance to a massively unbalanced thread.
96% of staff in the Trust I work for have had both initial doses, I don’t have any data on boosters though as no longer involvedWasn't it that 92% had had 1 jab?
Sadly I have a very short fuse/zero tolerance and it’s gotten me into trouble before so I made a deal with myself to tone it downI wish you would post more. I'd be interested. Add a bit of balance to a massively unbalanced thread.
Ah ok… it sounded just like me that’s allNo confusion, this was before you joined here.
If you go back to the first thread it shows this title - Refusing the Covid 19 vaccine & general vaccine conversation.No it wasn’t it was called ‘who else is not getting the covid vaccine’ I was quite active on the first thread and remember it being changed. I was also banned from commenting on one of them for arguing with a member (nothing new there)
Yes it was changed by a moderaterIf you go back to the first thread it shows this title - Refusing the Covid 19 vaccine & general vaccine conversation.
Was it changed then?
Probably changed to allow general discussion too as there are already a lot of Covid related threads.Yes it was changed by a moderater
So two things...I just think it's irresponsible to put patients at risk.
If I had a relative who caught covid off a midwife in hospital, or from a home visit, and suffered serious health complications as a result (or worse) I know how I'd feel about the person who put them in that position.
The thread title doesn't make that clear.To be fair, this thread was for those refusing the jab and general vaccine discussion
I work for the NHS. Our trust has a lot higher than 8% unvaccinated. We also have constant vacancies in most teams and have done for the last 2 years, we have a high turnover and particularly the past year or so have found it increasingly difficult to fill vacancies, we have jobs that have been vacant 3 months, 1 year and so on. We have had vacancies that get a handful of applicants if lucky.. Contrary to what people believe people arent flocking to jobs, certainly not NHS. Add in losses from brexit, the grant for student nurses/midwives etc being sacked off/tuition fees, high levels of sickness, covid absences eg; isolating. If you have a trust with even 'only' 10-15% unjabbed when you add in everything else it is not a drop in the ocean. And just to add that even with the vaccinations and booster we have huge amounts of staff transmitting it and testing positive and being off sickI think they're a drop in the ocean. I know several people who work in the NHS and they all had their jabs, earlier than most as they were entitled to be among some of the first due to the type of job they do and the fact they work with ill, vulnerable people.
I don't believe that a sizeable amount of frontline NHS staff have refused the jab.
The NHS needs more funding and the staff need to be paid better - this would attract more people to the job - improving patient care and staff morale. I suspect more have quit out of sheer exhaustion and stress caused by the government's naff handling of the crisis. The government are the ones who'll have blood on their hands.
Why? Echo chambers are never good. I probably disagree with at least 80% of the people in this thread, but I still think it's important to discuss things with people I disagree with.It was a refusing the vaccine thread to start with……..I wish it had remained.
You’re assuming discussion is mostly civil around this topic. It isn’t. There’s usually a general theme of ridicule, slurring and judgement when it comes to deciding not to take the vaccine. I think the thread was originally started as a ‘safer space’ to discuss with other people in similar positions. At least that’s why I originally joined it.Why? Echo chambers are never good. I probably disagree with at least 80% of the people in this thread, but I still think it's important to discuss things with people I disagree with.
Isn’t the whole world your echo chamber. Ever news outlet, newspaper etc…. Hence why we are here.Why? Echo chambers are never good. I probably disagree with at least 80% of the people in this thread, but I still think it's important to discuss things with people I disagree with.
There was very briefly a pro vaccine thread but it was merged back into this one and that’s when the title of this one went from ‘refusing’ to ‘general discussion’. I would have liked a safe space to discuss pro vaccine stuff but it ended up just causing more problems between members and that’s when I backed off a bitThe thread title doesn't make that clear.
In excess of 100,000 I think that's sizeable for a healthservice already under pressure.I think they're a drop in the ocean. I know several people who work in the NHS and they all had their jabs, earlier than most as they were entitled to be among some of the first due to the type of job they do and the fact they work with ill, vulnerable people.
I don't believe that a sizeable amount of frontline NHS staff have refused the jab.
The NHS needs more funding and the staff need to be paid better - this would attract more people to the job - improving patient care and staff morale. I suspect more have quit out of sheer exhaustion and stress caused by the government's naff handling of the crisis. The government are the ones who'll have blood on their hands.
It just seems pointless having a discussion thread where everyone agrees. Wouldn't it get boring?You’re assuming discussion is mostly civil around this topic. It isn’t. There’s usually a general theme of ridicule, slurring and judgement when it comes to deciding not to take the vaccine. I think the thread was originally started as a ‘safer space’ to discuss with other people in similar positions. At least that’s why I originally joined it.
Or…. It can actually be more enjoyable talking to people with like minded opinions and share information with each other? There has been plenty articles posted on here that I have shared with my friends and family that I wouldn’t have came across otherwise.It just seems pointless having a discussion thread where everyone agrees. Wouldn't it get boring?
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