No but they might not be happy about it.
I asked to delay my daughters mmr and to just have the booster and she was so annoyed with me and said I'd wasted her time!
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I asked to delay my daughters mmr and to just have the booster and she was so annoyed with me and said I'd wasted her time!
I hear that a lot. people feel coerced into doing things they don't want to. The medical person either get annoyed or laughs and tells you how silly you are being.
They might not be happy about it, but they'll soon get over it.
If I only wanted one of them I'd say it and wouldn't be that bothered if the nurse was a bit snippy with me. But maybe that's just me! The best thing to do is just ring them and explain - I'm sure they'll note it on their records and will allow the person to just have the one jab they want.
However, like I say, my local doctors surgery is offering flu vaccine only appointments. I'm surprised more aren't, because I'm eligible for a flu vaccine on the NHS, but not the covid booster. So if they didn't offer flu vaccine only appointments I (in theory) wouldn't be able to get the one vaccine I'm eligible for.
Senator Rand Paul concerns me due to his anti-abortion (he is lobbying to ban abortions in Kentucky) and homophobic views - he's previously said same sex marriage "offends (himself) and a lot of people" and there's a "crisis that allows people to think there would be some other sorts of marriage." than heterosexual.THIS
More broadly - it's interesting that a lot these "anti-vaccine" & COVID-minimising politicians have these kinds of hateful views - the venn diagram is practically a circle.
It's also interesting how the "my body my choice" argument is valid for things like masks & vaccination, but entirely invalid for women & their reproductive care.
Indeed. The double standard with the "my body my choice" argument is a strange one.
I also agree that the anti vaccine politicians are usually right wing. A lot of those views seem to go hand in hand despite, as you say, being contradictory.
Also goes the other way many of those who are pro-choice also pushed vaccines on those who didn't want them
Anyway we are talking about this video not his other views. (that I don't agree with ) The trouble with so many is they wont watch or take anything seriously if some has said anything they don't agree with. No one in the world has the same views on everything.
She was horrible!! It was the paediatrician that advised we delayed until she'd had allergy testing but she was still really crappy about it. I complained about her but then it was awkward as she was the only nurse that did children's vaccinations
It's a horrible situation, and one no professional should put anyone in.
Agree to disagree on this one - it isn't a random tweet someone has dug up from a decade ago, it's the specific ideas he's proposing for *right now*.
It's become worryingly common to tuck these kinds of hateful views under something more palatable - this way he reels in people who are hesistant around vaccination, and nudges them towards homophobia & misogny.
I think it's a low benchmark to ask for views from a politician who does not agree with vaccine mandates, and wants evidence driven policy, but isn't homophobic and wanting to remove reproductive care.
So what it boils down to is because he has a different political view, that means he shouldn't be investigating Fauci's blatant corruption and ties to big pharma? What a ridiculous argument.
Denmark Government Advises People Under 50 Not to Get COVID-19 Boosters
As opposed to Jacinda
Strange concept that we have to agree with everything someone thinks and if we don't they go in the baddie bin forever no matter what.
nothing to say to that but laugh, words failed me
fauci is a murdering scum bag. And I don't give a tit what beloved fact-checkers say, that man killed many thousands and the true gay/ rights and AIDS campaigners know it. But like everyone speaking the truth they are shut down.
Crazy isn't it. I can never get my head around that type of thinking.DenmarkDenmark Government Advises People Under 50 Not to Get COVID-19 Boosters
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As opposed to Jacinda
Strange concept that we have to agree with everything someone thinks and if we don't they go in the baddie bin forever no matter what.
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Exactly! Fauci is responsible for murdering millions of innocent people, but let's focus on the man investigating him because he said a few controversial things. Crazy!
Actions speak louder than a few requoted words.
And by that I mean the very questionable actions of Fauci versus those exposing wrong.
And by that I mean the very questionable actions of Fauci versus those exposing wrong.
Exactly. While I know this isn't a politics thread, I would never vote for a politician who was homophobic and anti abortion as those are two fundamental viewpoints that I strongly disagree with.
If that politician's views on vaccines aligned with mine, that wouldn't be enough for me to support them. And I'm not saying people shouldn't vote for him - everyone is entitled to vote for whoever they want - but to act like strong viewpoints such as those above don't really matter if you agree in other areas is crazy to me.
No one here is voting for him. this is purely about vaccines and him questioning Fauci not his views on anything else.
It was just a general response. Like I say people here can vote for whoever they like - their decision is their own and private, unless they choose to share it of course.
I think calling Fauci a "murderer" is ridiculous and so hyperbolic it puts me off reading anything else as it's so extreme and unbalanced. Might as well call every single doctor and nurse who adminsters a single vaccine a murderer as well.
Don't read or reply to me then. no skin off my nose
Same applies to you if you don't like my posts. I've no issue either way.
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For those interested. notice the parallels to the covid and vaccine narrative.
An Open Letter To Dr Anthony Fauci
"You are responsible for all government funded AIDS treatment research. In
the name of right, you make decisions that cost the lives of others. I call
the decisions you are making acts of murder."
Larry Kramer
"An Open Letter to Dr. Anthony Fauci"
San Francisco Examiner, June 26, 1988
Anthony Fauci, you are a murderer and should not be the guest of honor at any
event that reflects on the past decade of the AIDS crisis. Your refusal to
hear the screams of AIDS activists early in the crisis resulted in the deaths
of thousands of Queers. Your present inaction is causing today's increase in
HIV infection outside of the Queer community. We are outraged that Project
Inform, an organization that supposedly works on behalf of the infected
community, would insult us by bringing you to our city. You can't hide the
fact that you are nothing but a despicable Reagan-era holdover and drug
company mouthpiece.
With 270,000 dead from AIDS and millions more infected with HIV, you should
not be honored at a dinner. You should be put before a firing squad.
Clinical trials: government sanctioned mass murder of PWAs
Anthony Fauci, you are a murderer because you oversee government sponsored
clinical trials that test and retest combinations of immunosuppressive, toxic
therapies that kill people with HIV. The majority of U.S. clinical trials
involve worthless antivirals like AZT combined with some other drug
(generally another toxic antiviral). What these tests have proven is that you
are able to piss away billions of dollars testing dangerous compounds that DO
NOTHING to improve the quality of life, to stop opportunistic infections or
to extend survival for people with HIV. AZT, 3TC, ddI, ddC, d4T and the
current crop of protease inhibitors are nothing but poison. Ten years of the
plague has shown us that trying to kill the virus kills people with AIDS, and
you, Dr. Fauci, know it.
How long will it take you to start focusing on the immune system, how to
boost it and how to prevent the opportunistic infections that are killing
people with AIDS? Even you admit that "the immune response against HIV is
extremely powerful and is clearly more effective than any of the therapeutic
approaches currently available in controlling virus replication." Still , you
give your blessing to clinical trials of highly profitable toxins that
destroy PWAs' already compromised immune systems.
CD4s and viral load: a marketing exec's wet dream
Anthony Fauci, you are a liar because you have known for years that CD4
counts are a travesty of a surrogate marker that, through drug company
coercion, have been elevated to the status of "a standard." Now that everyone
else knows it too, you and your corporate drug company cronies are urging
researchers to foist another useless marker, peripheral blood viral load
counts, on our frightened, desperate community. Peripheral blood viral load
fluctuates in blood circulation and offers virtually no indication of the
health or disease progression in HIV+ people. According to a recent article
in the April 1995 issue of Lancet concerning viral replication, "the
principle that virus suppression will produce a major clinical benefit must
remain an article of faith." Information like that isn't stopping doctors of
death like Marcus Conant from insisting that "patients should be treated
earlier with combination therapy, and we should be using markers such as PCR
and branched DNA to measure viral load as surrogate markers in clinical
trials."
Your scheme isn't too difficult to figure out; promote another invalid
surrogate marker that has no relation to health or life expectancy of PWAs;
develop a test that costs $200-$300 to measure this invalid marker; encourage
the creation of more deadly drugs that effect this invalid marker; and then
compare the pathetic results you get from these deadly drugs to the more
pathetic results you got from AZT and other nukes. In the eyes of the
government everybody wins. Companies that sell drugs and market tests get
rich and PWAs who sacrifice their bodies in your trials of death are
eliminated from the face of the earth.
The fact that your clinical trials aren't meant to save our lives is no
secret. A December 1994 BETA article "A Remarkable Combination: AZT plus 3TC"
reports that the Phase II/III studies of these drugs were "designed to
evaluate the effect of the combination on laboratory markers of HIV disease
progression, such as viral load and CD4 counts, not critical endpoints, such
as opportunistic infections and survival."
AIDS activists from ACT UP San Francisco and DNCB Now! have been screaming
for over a year that HIV+ people need to activate their cell mediated
immunity and raise their CD8 counts. These activists were invited to the NIH
to present a forum and share their knowledge and experience with researchers.
Finally some researchers are coming around and hearing our voices. Doctors
like Susan Buchbinder who in the August 1994 issue of AIDS stated that
"elevated levels of CD8 cells in healthy long-term HIV+ individuals suggest
that these cells play an important role in delaying disease progression."
Because of your 1995 Annual Review of Immunology article we know that you
know this, Dr. Fauci, but still you prattle on about those CD4s that tell us
nothing at all.
Selling out: from "Murderer" to "Tony"
One thing that 10 years of the plague has taught us is how easily people and
organizations can be bought off. You are one of those people, Dr. Fauci.
Project Inform is one of those organizations. During this time of crisis you
are complacent; part of a government bureaucracy that values thriving
pharmaceutical company entrepreneurism over the health of people with HIV.
You are a pill-pushing pimp that cooperates with drug companies in forcing
dangerous concoctions down the throats of a desperate community that is
brainwashed into believing that taking a pill, any pill, will help them. AIDS
drugs are not sold to help people, they are sold to make a profit. The
situation is so out of control that drug companies now create and sell drugs
like Marinol, a synthetic derivative of the natural compound marijuana.
The conflict of interest, so apparent between you and the pharmaceutical
corporations, has now been embraced by those in the AIDS community who claim
that they are leaders. In their present state, organizations like Project
Inform, San Francisco AIDS Foundation, and ACT UP Golden Gate are all so
embroiled in conflict of interest that they must be viewed as enemies by
PWAs. Project Inform is still pushing AZT. San Francisco AIDS Foundation's
BETA reads like a promo piece for Glaxo. And many of today's so-called AIDS
activists are nothing more than public relations representatives whose job it
is to create a demand for the latest overpriced cure du jour. In the
meantime, grassroots efforts like the AIDS Cure Act are assailed by these
sellout AIDS organizations that have no desire to ever see a cure.
Ten years of hope? duck that. Try a decade of death and greed. Go back to
Washington you bastard.
Description:
Letter to Anthony Fauci condemning the way he has dealt with the AIDS epidemic and its sufferers.
Creators / Group:
Act Up San Francisco
Date:
1988-06-26
.
.
For those interested. notice the parallels to the covid and vaccine narrative.
An Open Letter To Dr Anthony Fauci
"You are responsible for all government funded AIDS treatment research. In
the name of right, you make decisions that cost the lives of others. I call
the decisions you are making acts of murder."
Larry Kramer
"An Open Letter to Dr. Anthony Fauci"
San Francisco Examiner, June 26, 1988
Anthony Fauci, you are a murderer and should not be the guest of honor at any
event that reflects on the past decade of the AIDS crisis. Your refusal to
hear the screams of AIDS activists early in the crisis resulted in the deaths
of thousands of Queers. Your present inaction is causing today's increase in
HIV infection outside of the Queer community. We are outraged that Project
Inform, an organization that supposedly works on behalf of the infected
community, would insult us by bringing you to our city. You can't hide the
fact that you are nothing but a despicable Reagan-era holdover and drug
company mouthpiece.
With 270,000 dead from AIDS and millions more infected with HIV, you should
not be honored at a dinner. You should be put before a firing squad.
Clinical trials: government sanctioned mass murder of PWAs
Anthony Fauci, you are a murderer because you oversee government sponsored
clinical trials that test and retest combinations of immunosuppressive, toxic
therapies that kill people with HIV. The majority of U.S. clinical trials
involve worthless antivirals like AZT combined with some other drug
(generally another toxic antiviral). What these tests have proven is that you
are able to piss away billions of dollars testing dangerous compounds that DO
NOTHING to improve the quality of life, to stop opportunistic infections or
to extend survival for people with HIV. AZT, 3TC, ddI, ddC, d4T and the
current crop of protease inhibitors are nothing but poison. Ten years of the
plague has shown us that trying to kill the virus kills people with AIDS, and
you, Dr. Fauci, know it.
How long will it take you to start focusing on the immune system, how to
boost it and how to prevent the opportunistic infections that are killing
people with AIDS? Even you admit that "the immune response against HIV is
extremely powerful and is clearly more effective than any of the therapeutic
approaches currently available in controlling virus replication." Still , you
give your blessing to clinical trials of highly profitable toxins that
destroy PWAs' already compromised immune systems.
CD4s and viral load: a marketing exec's wet dream
Anthony Fauci, you are a liar because you have known for years that CD4
counts are a travesty of a surrogate marker that, through drug company
coercion, have been elevated to the status of "a standard." Now that everyone
else knows it too, you and your corporate drug company cronies are urging
researchers to foist another useless marker, peripheral blood viral load
counts, on our frightened, desperate community. Peripheral blood viral load
fluctuates in blood circulation and offers virtually no indication of the
health or disease progression in HIV+ people. According to a recent article
in the April 1995 issue of Lancet concerning viral replication, "the
principle that virus suppression will produce a major clinical benefit must
remain an article of faith." Information like that isn't stopping doctors of
death like Marcus Conant from insisting that "patients should be treated
earlier with combination therapy, and we should be using markers such as PCR
and branched DNA to measure viral load as surrogate markers in clinical
trials."
Your scheme isn't too difficult to figure out; promote another invalid
surrogate marker that has no relation to health or life expectancy of PWAs;
develop a test that costs $200-$300 to measure this invalid marker; encourage
the creation of more deadly drugs that effect this invalid marker; and then
compare the pathetic results you get from these deadly drugs to the more
pathetic results you got from AZT and other nukes. In the eyes of the
government everybody wins. Companies that sell drugs and market tests get
rich and PWAs who sacrifice their bodies in your trials of death are
eliminated from the face of the earth.
The fact that your clinical trials aren't meant to save our lives is no
secret. A December 1994 BETA article "A Remarkable Combination: AZT plus 3TC"
reports that the Phase II/III studies of these drugs were "designed to
evaluate the effect of the combination on laboratory markers of HIV disease
progression, such as viral load and CD4 counts, not critical endpoints, such
as opportunistic infections and survival."
AIDS activists from ACT UP San Francisco and DNCB Now! have been screaming
for over a year that HIV+ people need to activate their cell mediated
immunity and raise their CD8 counts. These activists were invited to the NIH
to present a forum and share their knowledge and experience with researchers.
Finally some researchers are coming around and hearing our voices. Doctors
like Susan Buchbinder who in the August 1994 issue of AIDS stated that
"elevated levels of CD8 cells in healthy long-term HIV+ individuals suggest
that these cells play an important role in delaying disease progression."
Because of your 1995 Annual Review of Immunology article we know that you
know this, Dr. Fauci, but still you prattle on about those CD4s that tell us
nothing at all.
Selling out: from "Murderer" to "Tony"
One thing that 10 years of the plague has taught us is how easily people and
organizations can be bought off. You are one of those people, Dr. Fauci.
Project Inform is one of those organizations. During this time of crisis you
are complacent; part of a government bureaucracy that values thriving
pharmaceutical company entrepreneurism over the health of people with HIV.
You are a pill-pushing pimp that cooperates with drug companies in forcing
dangerous concoctions down the throats of a desperate community that is
brainwashed into believing that taking a pill, any pill, will help them. AIDS
drugs are not sold to help people, they are sold to make a profit. The
situation is so out of control that drug companies now create and sell drugs
like Marinol, a synthetic derivative of the natural compound marijuana.
The conflict of interest, so apparent between you and the pharmaceutical
corporations, has now been embraced by those in the AIDS community who claim
that they are leaders. In their present state, organizations like Project
Inform, San Francisco AIDS Foundation, and ACT UP Golden Gate are all so
embroiled in conflict of interest that they must be viewed as enemies by
PWAs. Project Inform is still pushing AZT. San Francisco AIDS Foundation's
BETA reads like a promo piece for Glaxo. And many of today's so-called AIDS
activists are nothing more than public relations representatives whose job it
is to create a demand for the latest overpriced cure du jour. In the
meantime, grassroots efforts like the AIDS Cure Act are assailed by these
sellout AIDS organizations that have no desire to ever see a cure.
Ten years of hope? duck that. Try a decade of death and greed. Go back to
Washington you bastard.
Description:
Letter to Anthony Fauci condemning the way he has dealt with the AIDS epidemic and its sufferers.
Creators / Group:
Act Up San Francisco
Date:
1988-06-26
.
.
Erm I am not the one who said this.... "it puts me off reading anything else"
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