TBH knowing what we know now the last person you'd want to give this to is a vulnerable person as they usually already have a weak immune system so surely this vaccine would make their immune system even weaker? My mums partners sister already had cancer then was given the covid vaccine and ended up with blood clots and had a stroke. She died not long after.
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My mum has recently been offered both her covid booster and flu vaccine and was able to book an appointment to have both at the same time.
I think that’s good, as the flu vaccine was always offered at this time of year anyway, so doing both at the same time won’t add much extra time. I know some people were concerned about the time it would take to roll out extra vaccines but this at least partly addresses that.
I think that’s good, as the flu vaccine was always offered at this time of year anyway, so doing both at the same time won’t add much extra time. I know some people were concerned about the time it would take to roll out extra vaccines but this at least partly addresses that.
Its like those gov scientists have come over here. Boring AF 
posts the length of a novel that would take a fortnight to read. Time to ignore now 
posts the length of a novel that would take a fortnight to read. Time to ignore now 
Yea i don’t get a lot of it, seems a bit strange to go to that level of detail on a gossip forum I mean it’s a fair assumption that anyone who hasn’t got it by now isnt gonna be convinced - just like anyone who has said they have had it and willing to have more aren’t gonna be convincedIts like those gov scientists have come over here. Boring AF
Clear as day
Transmissibility of SARS-CoV-2 among fully vaccinated individuals
Vaccine effectiveness studies have conclusively demonstrated the benefit of COVID-19 vaccines in reducing individual symptomatic and severe disease, resulting in reduced hospitalisations and intensive care unit admissions.1 However, the impact of vaccination on transmissibility of SARS-CoV-2...
www.thelancet.com
So you disagree with this then ?They are studies with concrete data and results.Not plucked out of thin air.
Transmissibility of SARS-CoV-2 among fully vaccinated individuals
Vaccine effectiveness studies have conclusively demonstrated the benefit of COVID-19 vaccines in reducing individual symptomatic and severe disease, resulting in reduced hospitalisations and intensive care unit admissions.1 However, the impact of vaccination on transmissibility of SARS-CoV-2...
www.thelancet.com
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Just because people believe the vaccines work doesn’t mean they have been living under a rock or it is all part of another distraction!
Could we apply this same logic to people who do not believe they work.To be fair, a lot of people who doubt the efficacy of the vaccines ask for evidence from people who share the opposing viewpoint. So we can't really blame those people for then posting that evidence.Yea i don’t get a lot of it, seems a bit strange to go to that level of detail on a gossip forum I mean it’s a fair assumption that anyone who hasn’t got it by now isnt gonna be convinced - just like anyone who has said they have had it and willing to have more aren’t gonna be convinced
I agree with you, though, that no one is likely to change their minds now, so it begs the question - should we just ask the mods to close this thread? After all, if no one is going to change their minds (and I agree that's likely), plus the last few posts imply that it's better to just ignore people who you disagree with - then what's there to discuss?
I'm being slightly facetious as I do think there's value in discussion, but it certainly feels like some people would prefer to only converse with those they agree with. But what's the point? It'd just be post after post of "yes, I agree".
No one is attacking anyone.
Can people not have a discussion? Just because different perespectives to yours exist it means that it is an attack. Ironic that people on here say they don’t care if people take the vaccine yet what they say in their comment says otherwise. 
Serious stuff, it's lucky it was limited to just one manufacturer even if that is of no comfort for those affected.
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The government ordered the Cutter vaccine withdrawn on April 27. But damage had been done.
" By April 30, within forty-eight hours of the recall,” Offit wrote. “Cutter’s vaccine had paralyzed or killed twenty-five children: fourteen in California, seven in Idaho, two in Washington, one in Illinois, and one in Colorado.”
On May 6, all polio vaccinations were postponed. They were resumed on May 15 after the government had rechecked the vaccines for safety.
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Scary, though one would reasonably expect that certification processes have improved since then.
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Exactly, I don't attack anyone. I disagree a lot, but it's nothing personal. How can it be? I don't even know anyone here.No one is attacking anyone.
I didn’t say I did…we already know that the virus has mutated to evade vaccines and previous infection.So you disagree with this then ?
Transmissibility of SARS-CoV-2 among fully vaccinated individuals
Vaccine effectiveness studies have conclusively demonstrated the benefit of COVID-19 vaccines in reducing individual symptomatic and severe disease, resulting in reduced hospitalisations and intensive care unit admissions.1 However, the impact of vaccination on transmissibility of SARS-CoV-2...www.thelancet.com
Some people still like reading and sharing articles as more is learned ,they’re still rolling out new vaccines it’s natural people want to read about the effects on the disease and population, why would we want the thread closed? It moves along ok even if there’s no contribution from the opposition .To be fair, a lot of people who doubt the efficacy of the vaccines ask for evidence from people who share the opposing viewpoint. So we can't really blame those people for then posting that evidence.
I agree with you, though, that no one is likely to change their minds now, so it begs the question - should we just ask the mods to close this thread? After all, if no one is going to change their minds (and I agree that's likely), plus the last few posts imply that it's better to just ignore people who you disagree with - then what's there to discuss?
I'm being slightly facetious as I do think there's value in discussion, but it certainly feels like some people would prefer to only converse with those they agree with. But what's the point? It'd just be post after post of "yes, I agree".
Hardly any of the posts are that long, so slight exaggeration there.Its like those gov scientists have come over here. Boring AF
I personally enjoy reading such posts!So you accept that updated article on covid vaccine transmission to be true as you seem to quote a lot about how the vaccines still reduce transmission…I await your concrete data to the latter.
It is a gossip forum but this thread is about vaccines and general vaccine talk - a topic which falls under science and medicine so it is expected people will go into detail. The same applies to threads on here which are about politics - there will be in depth discussions.Yea i don’t get a lot of it, seems a bit strange to go to that level of detail on a gossip forum I mean it’s a fair assumption that anyone who hasn’t got it by now isnt gonna be convinced - just like anyone who has said they have had it and willing to have more aren’t gonna be convinced
Erm I have always maintained that since the virus has mutated it can evade vaccines and previous infection. Funny how YOU quote/believe this article when YOU are the one that says there is no concrete data on the vaccines and it is guess work. FYI I have not quoted studies about vaccines and transmission for a while. 🥲
Offering a different perspective is not an attack. It is just a difference of opinion on a topic. It would be boring if everyone held the same view.
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Then why the clapping etc on the person’s post that stated they reduce transmission
To be fair, my post wasn't aimed at you. While we disagree a lot, you at least read posts and reply to them without getting nasty.
I didn’t … I clapped at this part.Then why the clapping etc on the person’s post that stated they reduce transmission
I rarely get nasty unless someone’s nasty to me by that time the mods have usually told me to shut up
I don’t think so
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Monga I don’t get what you are trying to do? Catch me out? That is what I clapped to, as my screen shot shows and as your screen shot also shows. Let’s leave it at that.I don’t think so
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