He concentrates on everything, every, single, bit and yes it is annoying and boring but how people can watch it and then say he is spreading misinfo is bizarre, it's all there right in front of you and him and he breaks it down one excruciating bit, by bit, by bloody bitI've only watched a few but enough to know that it's the style that annoys me - instead of concentrating on the salient points of a piece he does his 'marking the homework' on every single sodding bit of it.
"This is a headline" "yes I'll accept that" *tick*
"this was printed on paper" *pauses, explains it was electronic first but yes, is now on paper* *tick*.
At which point I start to feel myself losing the will to live...
It’s not a good way of deducing because he misses out a lot of information. It shows that he is not knowledgeable on research and how to break it down in a concise manner.I've only watched a few but enough to know that it's the style that annoys me - instead of concentrating on the salient points of a piece he does his 'marking the homework' on every single sodding bit of it.
"This is a headline" "yes I'll accept that" *tick*
"this was printed on paper" *pauses, explains it was electronic first but yes, is now on paper* *tick*.
At which point I start to feel myself losing the will to live...
No he does not.He concentrates on everything, every, single, bit and yes it is annoying and boring but how people can watch it and then say he is spreading misinfo is bizarre, it's all there right in front of you and him and he breaks it down one excruciating bit, by bit, by bloody bit
No he just breaks down reports with a disclaimer for people to make of them what they willDr John doesn’t speculate, he makes outright claims such as the Pfizer 9 pages being something that they were not.
I also forgot to add that my sister is on the heavier side. She isn't obese or anything, just a little overweight. So again, maybe that contributed to her getting Covid worse than my brother who has always kept a similar weight and is obviously pretty fit due to the physicality of his job, despite being a smoker. It's just the minutiae of these things.I think this really helps highlight the need for individual healthcare instead of blanket healthcare. As you (and many others on this thread) have observed many different outcomes for vaccination and it is important to consider pre existing health - is the individual in optimal health or are they obese, do they have pre existing conditions, what is the likely outcome for someone who is in optimal health to have a vaccine compared with someone in optimal health to catch covid. It’s very complex!
No Monga, he deduces things from the studies and interprets them in a way that is not always accurate.No he just breaks down reports with a disclaimer for people to make of them what they will
He interprets how they read to him, hence the disclaimer .No Monga, he deduces things from the studies and interprets them in a way that is not always accurate.
He interprets how they read to him, hence the disclaimer .
Like the vaccines MaYhAvE saved thousands of livesNo. Example - the Pfizer 9 pages of potential adverse events are exactly that (potential adverse events) but people all over the internet have been running with it and saying it is a list of actual adverse events which is false. Dr John did the same.
He should leave it to the experts and stick to what he knows.
The biggest shock to me here is the idea that people actually read disclaimers!No. Example - the Pfizer 9 pages of potential adverse events are exactly that (potential adverse events) but people all over the internet have been running with it and saying it is a list of actual adverse events which is false. Dr John did the same.
He should leave it to the experts and stick to what he knows.
Why ask for evidence if you have no intention of reading it, and are just gonna respond with an emoji?Like the vaccines MaYhAvE saved thousands of livesyea sure 🥱
Disclaimers don’t make it okay. Maybe he should also put in the disclaimers that he makes errors, occasionally misinforms but it’s okay because he is a Dr - not a medical one.The biggest shock to me here is the idea that people actually read disclaimers!
They’re always good to have to keep yourself rightThe biggest shock to me here is the idea that people actually read disclaimers!
I asked for factual, maybes don’t countWhy ask for evidence if you have no intention of reading it, and are just gonna respond with an emoji?
Just seems like a waste of everyone's time
They forgot to mention in the title that it’s not vaccines alone ,they may have contributed , that alone is misinformation.@monga
presumably you could actually read the full article, and then give a list of what you don't agree with
rather than just "OMG A SCIENTIST SAID MAYBE" the whole article (based on a lancet article) is not worth reading.
As I said earlier - real scientists convey nuance and uncertainty, cranks & fools make hard claims with no room for movement.
It may well have done, I believe excess weight was highlighted from early on as an indicator for being more likely to have a severe illness with covid.I also forgot to add that my sister is on the heavier side. She isn't obese or anything, just a little overweight. So again, maybe that contributed to her getting Covid worse than my brother who has always kept a similar weight and is obviously pretty fit due to the physicality of his job, despite being a smoker. It's just the minutiae of these things.
This is a pretty bizzare criticism, given the lancet article was trying ascertain the specific contribution of vaccination, and that the author of blog post comprehenively outlines the contribution of other measures (and comments on this exact issue & how is is problem when deriving estimates).They forgot to mention in the title that it’s not vaccines alone ,they may have contributed , that alone is misinformation.
Estimates aren’t factual that’s been my point all along the vaccines are only a tool not the saviour as you’re trying to make out.This is a pretty bizzare criticism, given the lancet article was trying ascertain the specific contribution of vaccination, and that the author of blog post comprehenively outlines the contribution of other measures (and comments on this exact issue & how is is problem when deriving estimates).
But if you don't bother reading it, of course it will fly over your head!
I read the lancet article and it is constructed of estimates, can you link anything that is concrete data?This is a pretty bizzare criticism, given the lancet article was trying ascertain the specific contribution of vaccination, and that the author of blog post comprehenively outlines the contribution of other measures (and comments on this exact issue & how is is problem when deriving estimates).
But if you don't bother reading it, of course it will fly over your head!
What a baffling reply.I read the lancet article and it is constructed of estimates, can you link anything that is concrete data?
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