Coronavirus disease outbreak - COVID-19 #8

[MissJacksonIfYoureNasty]

Well anyone with half a brain can see the whole country should be on lock down to contain this thing,never mind cancelling social activities .Judging by their body language and the answers given at that press conference today they know no more than the rest of us.It'll fall to the people to use their own initiative to stop the spread of this virus,I'm not highly educated but I can spot a bullshitter from a mile off .And their were three on that stage today...

Yeh, they probably looked like they were bullshitting because they were.

It’s since come out that the government’s initial modelling on the virus was incorrect. It was based on viral pneumonia, rather than the from the figures provided by the WHO and every other country who told our government their plan was fatally flawed. We’ve also now gone from 2 weeks behind Italy, to 4 weeks behind Italy and back down to 3 weeks behind Italy- all in a matter of days.

They’ve now conceded the initial strategy as this would likely result in, in excess of 250,000 deaths and ultimately the theory of ‘herd immunity’ won’t work!

It seems we’ve lost the best opportunity to safeguard as best as we can against this virus, and this in part is down to the government’s tone-deaf and pigheaded determination to be the exception in the face of evidence. By the sound of it, it’s going to cost extra lives which needn’t have been lost but for the flawed approach! Even in the face of all this, they’ve still ignored one of the main recommendations in the Imperial College report- to shut down schools to suppress transmission rates. Even when they eventually try to correct things, they still manage to duck it up!

When we get through this, heads should bloody roll!

Source:Buzzfeed
Imperial College COVID Report

 

[Al26]

My husband is in his early 30s he has quite a serious chronic lung condition.
His work have said it's business as usual and no one is to work from home.
He only started there just before Christmas.

It's so hard and stressful to know what to do. He isn't symptomatic and so far no one at his work is.

But he's definitely in vulnerable category.

Worried about how we would survive on stat sick pay and also worried about his long term prospects of keeping his job there as they are basically saying the whole thing is an over exaggeration.

Just venting and know there are so many in similar or worse positions but feel clueless as to what to do next

 

[mindlessness]

My husband is in his early 30s he has quite a serious chronic lung condition.
His work have said it's business as usual and no one is to work from home.
He only started there just before Christmas.

It's so hard and stressful to know what to do. He isn't symptomatic and so far no one at his work is.

But he's definitely in vulnerable category.

Worried about how we would survive on stat sick pay and also worried about his long term prospects of keeping his job there as they are basically saying the whole thing is an over exaggeration.

Just venting and know there are so many in similar or worse positions but feel clueless as to what to do next

Oh gosh that's tough. Could he have his GP or specialist write a letter to HR? Suggesting he work from home due to the risk? Could he work from home? (I know lots of people can't due to the nature of their work...)

 

[Notothefakes]

I think I’m going to throw up. My husband has a fever so we’re going to have to self isolate for 14 days. I need to ring midwife tomorrow as although currently I have no symptoms if I go into labour they’ll need to know. I’m going to have to do it on my own aren’t I because I can’t risk anybody else in my family to be a birthing partner in case I have it to. I’ve been up for two hours cleaning downstairs and washing everything I can at 90 degrees. And now obviously I can’t sleep. I’m trying to remain calm but it’s a pretty unique situation that I’m not entirely sure how to process hence why I’m rambling on here. Not looking for advice to my scenario I know what we need to do but I am scared I’ve got two other children that I’ll need to self isolate with, an asthmatic husband showing symptoms and I could go into labour at any stage.

 

[Horatio]

I think I’m going to throw up. My husband has a fever so we’re going to have to self isolate for 14 days. I need to ring midwife tomorrow as although currently I have no symptoms if I go into labour they’ll need to know. I’m going to have to do it on my own aren’t I because I can’t risk anybody else in my family to be a birthing partner in case I have it to. I’ve been up for two hours cleaning downstairs and washing everything I can at 90 degrees. And now obviously I can’t sleep. I’m trying to remain calm but it’s a pretty unique situation that I’m not entirely sure how to process hence why I’m rambling on here. Not looking for advice to my scenario I know what we need to do but I am scared I’ve got two other children that I’ll need to self isolate with, an asthmatic husband showing symptoms and I could go into labour at any stage.

As you say you’re not asking for advice and in this unique situation there’s no precedent to rely on anyway... but know good people are here seemingly every hour of the day... ramble as much as you like girl, if it takes your mind off things. When are you due?
Try not to let the virus impact the labour experience too much for you... it’s something women have been doing since the beginning of time, during wars and famines and natural disasters. And you mention children so I’m going to confidently assume you’ve been through it before yourself too. You’ve got this

 

[Daire]

I think I’m going to throw up. My husband has a fever so we’re going to have to self isolate for 14 days. I need to ring midwife tomorrow as although currently I have no symptoms if I go into labour they’ll need to know. I’m going to have to do it on my own aren’t I because I can’t risk anybody else in my family to be a birthing partner in case I have it to. I’ve been up for two hours cleaning downstairs and washing everything I can at 90 degrees. And now obviously I can’t sleep. I’m trying to remain calm but it’s a pretty unique situation that I’m not entirely sure how to process hence why I’m rambling on here. Not looking for advice to my scenario I know what we need to do but I am scared I’ve got two other children that I’ll need to self isolate with, an asthmatic husband showing symptoms and I could go into labour at any stage.

I know its like telling rain not to be wet, but try not to be scared. Take a moment and just breathe and calm yourself. There is nothing you can do and the situation will play out as its going to.

All you can do is call up and get some advice on how you should proceed, and also yes call your midwife tomorrow and update them. Hopefully they will be able to give you some additional advice which will be reassuring.

It will be OK

 

[Notothefakes]

As you say you’re not asking for advice and in this unique situation there’s no precedent to rely on anyway... but know good people are here seemingly every hour of the day... ramble as much as you like girl, if it takes your mind off things. When are you due?
Try not to let the virus impact the labour experience too much for you... it’s something women have been doing since the beginning of time, during wars and famines and natural disasters. And you mention children so I’m going to confidently assume you’ve been through it before yourself too. You’ve got this

I have done it before yes so whilst it’s not ideal I feel ok ish with that bit
(The things he’ll do to get out of it!) it’s more I’m panicking for my other children as obviously now I need to step up and be totally calm for them
and not entirely sure how it’ll play out with my husband and how ill he’ll get, again I can’t really worry too much yet because I just don’t know. But who should I ask to come and watch the children whilst I go to the hospital if my husband is unable to care for them. And potentially even if he is able when I leave he could take a turn for the worse during that time. My mum and mother in law are both fit and under 70 but my dad is over 70 and fil has a stroke before Christmas so don’t really want to risk them. I suspect his mum will come to help regardless as it’s her son and you never stop being a mum. It’s just in my wildest dreams not a situation I imagined! I can do this. I’ve done all I can tonight, I’ve cleaned, I’ve separated myself from him and he’s got everything he needs. I maybe need to do some breathing exercises. Thank
You got responding!

As you say you’re not asking for advice and in this unique situation there’s no precedent to rely on anyway... but know good people are here seemingly every hour of the day... ramble as much as you like girl, if it takes your mind off things. When are you due?
Try not to let the virus impact the labour experience too much for you... it’s something women have been doing since the beginning of time, during wars and famines and natural disasters. And you mention children so I’m going to confidently assume you’ve been through it before yourself too. You’ve got this

I have done it before yes so whilst it’s not ideal I feel ok ish with that bit
(The things he’ll do to get out of it!) it’s more I’m panicking for my other children as obviously now I need to step up and be totally calm for them
and not entirely sure how it’ll play out with my husband and how ill he’ll get, again I can’t really worry too much yet because I just don’t know. But who should I ask to come and watch the children whilst I go to the hospital if my husband is unable to care for them. And potentially even if he is able when I leave he could take a turn for the worse during that time. My mum and mother in law are both fit and under 70 but my dad is over 70 and fil has a stroke before Christmas so don’t really want to risk them. I suspect his mum will come to help regardless as it’s her son and you never stop being a mum. It’s just in my wildest dreams not a situation I imagined! I can do this. I’ve done all I can tonight, I’ve cleaned, I’ve separated myself from him and he’s got everything he needs. I maybe need to do some breathing exercises. Thank
You got responding

I know its like telling rain not to be wet, but try not to be scared. Take a moment and just breathe and calm yourself. There is nothing you can do and the situation will play out as its going to.

All you can do is call up and get some advice on how you should proceed, and also yes call your midwife tomorrow and update them. Hopefully they will be able to give you some additional advice which will be reassuring.

It will be OK

thank you. I’ll call the normal hours midwife tom as nothing the assessment unit can do right now and see what they advise
I’m due tomorrow I guess it is now!
So it’s imminent.

 

[Juliet]

I’ve woken with such a burning tightness in my chest, anxiety is here with a vengeance! I won’t be able to go back to sleep again now.

I have done it before yes so whilst it’s not ideal I feel ok ish with that bit
(The things he’ll do to get out of it!) it’s more I’m panicking for my other children as obviously now I need to step up and be totally calm for them
and not entirely sure how it’ll play out with my husband and how ill he’ll get, again I can’t really worry too much yet because I just don’t know. But who should I ask to come and watch the children whilst I go to the hospital if my husband is unable to care for them. And potentially even if he is able when I leave he could take a turn for the worse during that time. My mum and mother in law are both fit and under 70 but my dad is over 70 and fil has a stroke before Christmas so don’t really want to risk them. I suspect his mum will come to help regardless as it’s her son and you never stop being a mum. It’s just in my wildest dreams not a situation I imagined! I can do this. I’ve done all I can tonight, I’ve cleaned, I’ve separated myself from him and he’s got everything he needs. I maybe need to do some breathing exercises. Thank
You got responding!


I have done it before yes so whilst it’s not ideal I feel ok ish with that bit
(The things he’ll do to get out of it!) it’s more I’m panicking for my other children as obviously now I need to step up and be totally calm for them
and not entirely sure how it’ll play out with my husband and how ill he’ll get, again I can’t really worry too much yet because I just don’t know. But who should I ask to come and watch the children whilst I go to the hospital if my husband is unable to care for them. And potentially even if he is able when I leave he could take a turn for the worse during that time. My mum and mother in law are both fit and under 70 but my dad is over 70 and fil has a stroke before Christmas so don’t really want to risk them. I suspect his mum will come to help regardless as it’s her son and you never stop being a mum. It’s just in my wildest dreams not a situation I imagined! I can do this. I’ve done all I can tonight, I’ve cleaned, I’ve separated myself from him and he’s got everything he needs. I maybe need to do some breathing exercises. Thank
You got responding

thank you. I’ll call the normal hours midwife tom as nothing the assessment unit can do right now and see what they advise

Just going by your posts you sound like a very strong person, you’ll get through this. Everything seems so much worse in the middle of the night. Just take things hour by hour and follow your gut with any advice given.

 

[Souffle]

I need to rant.
I work for a casino and the advice on Monday for people to avoid pubs etc isn’t really going to work on our customers because the majority of our customers are addicted to gambling. Management aren’t being very helpful at all because all they care about is profit. I really want to kick up a fuss about the way we are all being treated but I’m scared I’ll lose my job!
I wish they would just close for the safety of staff and customers. Imagine how quickly a casino chip gets passed back and forth between multiple people and NEVER gets cleaned

 

[Al26]

Oh gosh that's tough. Could he have his GP or specialist write a letter to HR? Suggesting he work from home due to the risk? Could he work from home? (I know lots of people can't due to the nature of their work...)

That's not a bad idea I will suggest that to him.

He could potentially do the job from home but his work would need to put software etc in place and are currently unwilling

People are even taking bets on who will be the first to self isolate and are laughing at them .... ಠ_ಠ

 

[imaginedragon83]

Someone recommended lidl SOS handcream (cien) on another thread. It's fantastic for chapped hands. Another tip is to smother your hands in hand cream or even just body lotion before bed and put socks on them. It really helps to soften the skin and ease the chafing. My hands were red raw and peeling on Friday, but are so much better today(& I haven't been THAT scrupulous about remembering the hand cream).
Ok

It was me that recommended the lidl handcream....it really has sorted mine out xxx

 

[Mustard]

Your still allowed to walk the dog etc so should be fine for a walk but just distance yourself from people if possible

Was listening to an interview with a Brit living in Madrid and he said enterprising Spaniards are renting out their dogs to the Non dog owners so they are able to get out of their homes as dog walking is allowed as are grocery store runs but you must be a metre away from other people.

 

[BorisBear]

They mention only public transport where is essential, my 10 year old gets public bus to school a 30min journey each way. I’m going to see if my employer will let me take her in

 

[Sooverthat]

2 families and 2 teachers have gone into self isolation at my children's school. They remain open. Its a small school. Now I'm debating it I should even send him in. Dont want to react with fear but this has worried me

 

[Doc]

2 families and 2 teachers have gone into self isolation at my children's school. They remain open. Its a small school. Now I'm debating it I should even send him in. Dont want to react with fear but this has worried me

Are they genuinely showing symptoms or could it be their way of using Government instructions not to go in themselves and avoid a fine/bashing from colleagues? We had about 7% of pupils off yesterday. One family even blatantly said they’re not sending their child in until it’s all over. I don’t blame them.

 

[Ajemma]

2 families and 2 teachers have gone into self isolation at my children's school. They remain open. Its a small school. Now I'm debating it I should even send him in. Dont want to react with fear but this has worried me

If you are able to keep them home I would. I’m keeping mine off , lucky that I am able to . If it’s an over reaction then so be it but it might not be x

 

[leoladyxo]

Following the press conference last night I emailed my bosses at work and asked if I could work from home moving forward. I am on immunosuppressant medicine for a chronic illness and the official guidance for people on my medicine (Azathioprine) in Ireland and the USA is to stay home. I don’t understand our advice enough as they seem to be saying still carry on as normal unless you’re on immunosuppressants because of an organ transplant, which I am not.

My work haven’t really done much contingency planning on this at all. I didn’t mind sticking my head above the water for all of us in the office because we are in unprecedented times at the moment. Other people have bad asthma in our company too and they need to make a decision. Others are too scared to say anything for fear of upsetting management. I am hoping I will get a response today.

 

[Justcheckingin]

I’m from California, my family consists of of my husband, 2 young adult children and me. Things just got a lot worse for us in San Diego County. My family is well, but we own a small business and it doesn’t look good as of now. Hopefully people still need to go to work and need their cars repaired! We own an auto repair business. Our refrigerator and pantry are full though so I’m thankful for that. The thing people were hoarding here a week ago was toilet paper! Not food...but toilet paper! Wow! The stores have now put limits on items.

This was just released today, I’m assuming most places are like this or will be:
To slow the spread of COVID-19, the following guidance is being issued and is effective from March 17 through March 31, 2020:

• All public and private gatherings of more than 50 people are prohibited. Non-essential gatherings of any size are strongly discouraged.
• All bars and adult entertainment establishments that serve alcohol and no food must close.
• All restaurants or businesses that serve food must close on-site dining. Food delivery, pick-up or drive-through needs to be done using social distancing or keeping people six feet apart.
• All schools of all grades to close; students who are minors must stay at home and not participate in activities prohibited by the order.
• All people 65 or older, or anyone who has a chronic underlying condition or are immunocompromised should stay home.
• Non-essential personnel must stay away from hospitals or long-term care facility.
• All businesses need to enact social distancing, increase cleaning standards and have employees work from home, if possible. Businesses must suspend doctor verification for sick or other leave approval.
• Hospitals must preserve resources and delay non-emergency surgeries and elective procedures.

 

[Doc]

If you are able to keep them home I would. I’m keeping mine off , lucky that I am able to . If it’s an over reaction then so be it but it might not be x

I agree, do what you think is right. Don’t feel pressured to send your kids in if you’re not easy with it when everyone else is being told to distance themselves x

 

[Ajemma]

Does anyone feel Boris was way too vague . Like you should all probably stay home ,
No pressure though! I’m on Lake District fb pages and people are asking ‘shall I still go on holiday’ the amount of people saying ‘ yes as long as you’re not I’ll ‘
They may have no symptoms , or they may catch it from someone in the hotel .
Why isn’t everyone more aware !!!!