Coronavirus Disease Outbreak COVID-19 #25

Are we really still arguing in circles, we’re really still doing it?

still?

guys drop it, move on and agree to disagree.

EmilyChambers said:

I'm about the same distance out of the centre but heading towards the airport

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Ah I'm the other way, you'd think people would be more sensible towards the NEC with the Nightingale airport opening bringing it home. Noone is really doing anything over this way, all working from home and socialising virtually

I weighed myself this morning to stop the quarantine eating!! Something had to stop me because by the time we get out of this I’d have put all the weight I lost before it back on! It’s annoying that baking is such a good mind occupying activity.

Youtubegossip said:

Okay well I still don’t agree. Just because it was on route to your shop doesn’t mean it’s okay. Do what you like non of my business but you can’t then come moaning about others doing the same

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Since all this started I have banged on about “stay home, stay safe” and have followed it so much so that I am the only one of my household leaving the house.
That said, 2 days after lockdown we did break the rules.

We travelled to my son’s uni and cleared his room.
I didn’t sleep the night before we went because I was so worried about it.
I am not a rule breaker usually.

However, his accommodation said if students cleared their rooms then they would not pay the next terms rent (almost £2000) or else the staff would clear their rooms and put it all in storage.
They announced this the day AFTER lockdown.
My son has MH problems and I could see that the thought of a stranger going through his things was going to affect him badly so we made the decision to travel to empty his room.
We drove straight there, put gloves on and emptied and cleaned his room in 15 minutes. We saw nobody else there.

Officially, was it essential travel? No.
Was it essential travel for our son’s wellbeing? Yes.

So I hold my hands up - yes I’m a hypocrite.
Do I still feel guilty? Yes.
Would I do it again if I could turn back time? Still yes.
I would prefer to deal with my guilt and hypocrisy than to see my son have a meltdown.

Sometimes we have to go against everything we believe in to help those we love.

Grumpycat did it to help her grandparents.
Without wanting to put words into her mouth, she knew it was “bending the rules” slightly but she still followed the social distancing rules to ensure safety for everyone.
I bet you she felt as crap as I did for doing it and I very much doubt she will be doing it again unless she felt her grandparents were desperately needing it.

I’m sorry if this post has made me go down in some people’s estimations (not that you probably think of me at all!) but sometimes, just sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture.

Apologies for the long post and to make it about me, but I felt I needed to support Grumpycat because I feel she has been the scapegoat on here lately and it hasn’t sat well with me.

Please can we draw a line under this now?

Edit: apologies Ooh, it took me that long to type this, your post was written in between.

Monkeybum said:

Where are you? I'm 12 miles out from Birmingham, none of these things are open here. Some takeaways are doing deliveries only but none of the other things you mention. A couple of colleagues who live in the city centre have said it's like a ghost town and I haven't seen or heard of any pubs saying they're re-open in the city.

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I am 30 minutes outside Birmingham to the south and nothing is open here either.

Sven said:

I weighed myself this morning to stop the quarantine eating!! Something had to stop me because by the time we get out of this I’d have put all the weight I lost before it back on! It’s annoying that baking is such a good mind occupying activity.

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I've decided that next time there is a lockdown, I'm making sure I'm stuck at a bakers house!!

I know the government have acknowledged it in some of their briefings and there is not much they can do about it but...

I am worried about all the people avoiding going to the doctors or A&E because of Covid.

My husband works in a cardiac department and all of their planned work has been cancelled but they usually treat 25-30 emergency heart attack cases a week. And it has dropped to an average of 9-10 a week since lock down.
I doubt it is because less people are having heart attacks but people don't want to go to hospitals.

I'm currently pregnant and keep getting reminders from the hospital that if I notice any reduced movement I'm still to call and go in to be checked as normal. I can imagine they are worried about an increase in still births during this time because again people are avoiding hospitals.

I usually work in Breast cancer services and I know referrals have dropped a lot there too. Early detection is key to treatment, if someone finds a lump now and doesn't go to the GP and get referred by the time this is all over and they do go it could have spread. Breast Screening has been cancelled, we have to see people every 3 years. Now we're over a month behind and that is going to have a knock on effect for years to come if we don't catch up.

The focus at the minute is to make sure the NHS can cope with coronavirus patients but most hospitals I know have more empty beds now than they have ever had and there are a lot of staff who don't really have any work to do.
I partly feel that some things were cancelled a bit too early but I guess they were expecting the peak at Easter and because of the lock down it's been pushed back, which was the desired effect.

I don't think much thought has gone into how the NHS is going to cope with the backlog of work once things start to reopen.

Today I will stop using the lockdown as an excuse to graze on food all day. I need to make a conscious effort to make healthier choices and not go straight for the chocolate. It’s happening, today.

I get where your coming from s lady I know had been struggling so bad to get pregnant, she managed in the end, just before lockdown she announced it, I feel so bad for her though as I am sure she is bricking it as it will be hard for her to access all the checkups she may need for peace of mind. I don't know if she is high-risk or not as I don't think before this she had ever been pregnant. I am worrying so bad for her.

This has been added to our neighbourhood page this morning

Renegadedancer said:

Today I will stop using the lockdown as an excuse to graze on food all day. I need to make a conscious effort to make healthier choices and not go straight for the chocolate. It’s happening, today.

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we try to use an excuse of a weekend for treats

And maybe a Wednesday evening celebrate midweek and all

.... maybe even a Tuesday no but we do try to stick to a weekend and maybe only have a boring biscuit if I fancy a snack on an evening

small pleasures and all that during this time

grumpycat said:

we try to use an excuse of a weekend for treats

And maybe a Wednesday evening celebrate midweek and all

.... maybe even a Tuesday no but we do try to stick to a weekend and maybe only have a boring biscuit if I fancy a snack on an evening

small pleasures and all that during this time

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I hear you! But you know when every day and evening becomes a weekend with regards to food, you need to re think I have made more cakes and eaten more chocolate digestives in the last six weeks that I have in the last six years . I need to get back to some kind of food routine, rather than treating the lockdown like an all inclusive feast

Emotional morning, I'm self employed and two more of my clients have transferred cash to my bank today despite me not being able to work right now. I'm so touched by their kindness, some people are so bloody lovely

Kermy5 said:

Emotional morning, I'm self employed and two more of my clients have transferred cash to my bank today despite me not being able to work right now. I'm so touched by their kindness, some people are so bloody lovely

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That’s a lovely thing to do, a friend of mine has had the same experience, she said it made her cry. Its nice to hear you Have good clients. That’s a great start to the day. May it continue.

grumpycat said:

yes, I did and if you’d read the further post where I explained myself when I said that YES I HAD mentioned you should only go for food and exercise but I DID take the opportunity to see one of my vulnerable family members who I hadn’t seen in a month from a distance of at least 3/4m so did not compromise them. I don’t go anywhere except my office or my house. I don’t even go shopping

I contradicted myself in my original post yet I did actually hold my hands up and say yeah, I did say that.

I saw my flipping grandmother for the first time in a month. Her and my grandfather are starting to get on a downward spiral so I took the initiative to go and say hello whilst I could to help their mental health. They are not of a generation where FaceTime is normal to them as much as we’ve tried to teach them.

as I said last night amongst all the ridiculous calling out of behaviour, let’s assume that a good portion of us do have our heads screwed on and are making decisions as best we can with the situations we are in. I don’t want my grandfather to turn to alcohol as a problem saver so an hour out my day, out the way and some stick on a forum is fine if it helps him.

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Well as you say people are quick to judge ! as I'm typing this now there's a lady passing by with her son in a buggy, like she's does 20/30 times a day he's screaming blue murder (he's autistic) would I be the one to go out and tell her you need to stay inside !! I don't think so ! she's doing what she thinks is right both for her and her son ,while respectfully keeping her distance from other people ..I don't have a problem with that..

grumpycat said:

I’m not gonna go around in circles with it, good for you if you don’t have vulnerable family members to check in with - checking in with an elderly member of family who is turning to alcohol is very different in my opinion of someone taking a newborn baby into a house in the middle of a pandemic but

there are plenty of people who check in with others from a safe distance. I’d understand if I let myself in, made a cuppa and sprawled on the sofa

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I don’t see how it’s different to social distancing when you’re outside doing your exercise. You kept your distance. My husband says the cure will kill more than the virus itself, that’s just his opinion but I have heard professionals say it too. My friend spent some time with her dad social distancing in their garden on the 1st anniversary of her mums death. I’m certainly not going to judge that. Your grandparents are lucky to have you looking out for them.

And this is from Facebook for the past two weeks

And today there's someone asking for a bouncy castle to be delivered to home.

EmilyChambers said:

And this is from Facebook for the past two weeks

And today there's someone asking for a bouncy castle to be delivered to home.

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I don’t know how they dare! I’m terrified if I get too close to somebody on the street!

EmilyChambers said:

This has been added to our neighbourhood page this morning

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The people that make this stuff up and spread it around like facts really wind me up. This isn’t official policy and so many people are going to think it is. I just don’t understand why people spend their time making this stuff up.

Renegadedancer said:

I hear you! But you know when every day and evening becomes a weekend with regards to food, you need to re think I have made more cakes and eaten more chocolate digestives in the last six weeks that I have in the last six years . I need to get back to some kind of food routine, rather than treating the lockdown like an all inclusive feast

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yes!! I’m deffo trying to get back to meal planning and hiding the biscuits
(I say meal planning, turns out my husband is not someone who checks dates on food when he buys them )

it’s easy to eat your feelings though isn’t it. adds to the safe bubble of home but I agree. Can you pop them somewhere out the way so you REALLY gotta want them to go get them? thats always my fail safe as I’m a titch so if I stick them up high I gotta risk my neck to grab em