Strawberry has raised a good point though - how long do you suggest it’s continued for if you say it’s not forever. These vulnerable and immunocompromised people have always been there (albeit always forgotten about!) so will they get support for another year? A few months? And then go back to being forgot about again and having to fend for themselves.Please don’t put words in my mouth, nowhere in my comment did I say we need to continue this forever. I also don’t see how my comment can be labelled communist ideology BSwhen all I was referring to in terms of collective effort is the public health measures we took/still take.
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Well yes there should be better and more affordable public transport systems in place. It would be better if rich companies and people (e.g. private jet owners) stopped polluting the planet but I fail to see what this has to do with the point they were making? Historically species are presented with threats and adapt to them. Public health initiatives and the eradication of diseases only occured through a collective effort, this isn't political. Your comments regarding vulnerable people are however quite frankly bordering on eugenics.Well this is some communist ideology BS, we need to make a ‘collective effort’? So where does that end then will we all make a collective effort towards climate change and give up our cars? Everyone give up meat too because you are selfish and killing the planet?what you are saying is we need to continue this on forever because let’s face it, there’s always going to be vulnerable and immunocompromised people.
I do not know the answer to that question as I cannot look into the future.
I know they have always been around and public health measures are not perfect, nor have they always protected them. It could be better.Communism isn't fascism seriously please read a book or something that is utterly ridiculous. It isn't fair to put words in someone else's mouth like that either, where on earth have they suggested punishment? Why are you all so desperate to act like you are being oppressed
Oh please is that the best you can do? Resort to labelling me something that I am not. I am not pro communism/pro fascist. I have never said I want people to be told what to do by the governments and to be punished. Stop putting words in other people’s mouths.
If we cannot continue this conversation without all the above then best to leave it as is. Have a good evening.
Dismissing the wellbeing of vulnerable people in the context of a virus that could very easily kill them is a eugenicist talking point I don't know what else to say!
Shouldn’t those that are vulnerable have taken the vaccine that will protect them? Or are you saying that isn’t enough?
Hypothetically speaking though - because that’s what all this is. Restrictions are gone for now and those vulnerable people are left to fend for themselves. If the government and scientists aren’t enforcing these restrictions that you and others mention then what is it you do want to happen because I’m confused 🫤I do not know the answer to that question as I cannot look into the future.
Rather than respond to what I have actually said you chose to bring up vaccines? Firstly I think it is quite clear that vaccinations aren't up to scratch especially against the newer variants secondly immunocompromised people often can't mount an immune response so there is no way they would help them anyway. I know of people who have ended up dying as a result of this in earlier waves.
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Coronavirus Disease Outbreak COVID-19 #117
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Are you ok? I said there’s always going to be vulnerable people so are you saying we will need to wear masks forever? You accuse me of bordering on eugenics. I replied- the vulnerable should have taken the vaccines so therefore are protected, therefore we do not need masks?
Is there something you are not understanding from that conversation?
Some hospitals and clinical settings are bringing back mask wearing because of the increase in cases as well as the hospitalisations.
I didn’t say I wanted anything to happen.
Your initial message to me said that vulnerable people need a collective effort to be safe, that’s why I assumed you expected something to happen, I responded to your initial message at length but you ignored it.
Clinical measures in clinical settings makes sense to me and I have no issue with that.
I don’t want to start a debate but out of curiosity, has anyone tested positive and not isolated? I’m at the point that I would cancel any social occasions and WFH but do the school run or pop to shop if I had no other option. That said I’m not testing so wouldn’t know if I did have it but that’s kinda where my head is with it
I said that they rely on collective effort. Which message of yours did I ignore? I thought I had replied to all, this thread has moved quick this evening.
My response to that message. You skipped my message to argue with someone else. I wasn’t expecting a reply anyway dont worry about it we’re all friends here!
Well believe it or not someone on the vaccine thread (a pro vaxxer) was very vocally arguing about selfish people coughing in her office. She went on to test positive for the covid
She said something to the line of “I won’t be leaving this house all week I don’t need to this virus ends here in my body”.
She went on to post in the marksies thread a day or two later about going in for a yellow sticker hunt so I’m sure there are people among us who will test positive and go out - even the ones who swear they wouldn’t
My husband still had to work when he tested otherwise he wouldn’t have got paid
These two don't know how to debate. They remind me a bit of Trump, try and dazzle people with BS so nobody can see their isn't anything of substance in their responses. I mean they can't even tell the difference between communism and fascism
Also have to laugh at the fact that they bring up vaccines but don't realise that some people with compromised immune systems aren't allowed to take them. My friend is really sick with Lupus so she can't have the vaccine and also needs to be careful in general with socialising etc
I isolated as much as I could but still went to work. I had no contact with people at work so I didn't worry about making anybody ill. I think as long as you are honest don't worry about it
Oh the hypocrisy. Going to work after testing positive for covid? How incredibly selfish.These two don't know how to debate. They remind me a bit of Trump, try and dazzle people with BS so nobody can see their isn't anything of substance in their responses. I mean they can't even tell the difference between communism and fascism
Also have to laugh at the fact that they bring up vaccines but don't realise that some people with compromised immune systems aren't allowed to take them. My friend is really sick with Lupus so she can't have the vaccine and also needs to be careful in general with socialising etc
I isolated as much as I could but still went to work. I had no contact with people at work so I didn't worry about making anybody ill. I think as long as you are honest don't worry about it
Pot kettle black springs to mind.
Nah, only person in the office. Who am I putting in a vulnerable position? My pot plant maybe but it's by the window so get lot of fresh air.
But am happy that you take such an interest in my life. Thank you for caring
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