Constance Marten case - missing mum

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After giving birth you bleed heavily, her hygiene must be horrific if she hasn't been able to wash for 2 months. The baby would of also needed cleaning and nappies. If she hasn't been eating enough her milk may of dried up and no resources to safely bottle feed either. The pressure of been on the run, walking the streets late at night, the weather, dealing with hormones and possibly the death of a baby won't of helped her mental state. It's just absolutely tragic that they hadn't thought this through and it has ended worse than what needed to be.
I have never smelt as bad as I did after giving birth, and I have attended more festivals than I can count. It honestly does not bear thinking about.
I can't stop thinking about the innocent little baby, I just hope they are safe and warm somewhere.
 
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After giving birth you bleed heavily, her hygiene must be horrific if she hasn't been able to wash for 2 months. The baby would of also needed cleaning and nappies. If she hasn't been eating enough her milk may of dried up and no resources to safely bottle feed either. The pressure of been on the run, walking the streets late at night, the weather, dealing with hormones and possibly the death of a baby won't of helped her mental state. It's just absolutely tragic that they hadn't thought this through and it has ended worse than what needed to be.
Those first few weeks after birth are hard enough when you’re in a nice warm home with a shower etc. I can’t even begin to imagine being outdoors living in a tent in the freezing cold with no washing or cooking facilities. It’s truly horrific 😰 Sadly I think the baby is dead and has been for a while. I don’t think they will be telling the police because as soon as they find a body they’re stuffed. I imagine like others have said they will hope they can’t prove she had a baby. I wonder if one of them will crumble under interrogation?
 
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When my daughter was that little she was pretty much constantly on the breast as they have little and often and it’s also their comfort. So if baby is alive probably really distressed by now 😞 assuming she’s breastfed as sterilising bottles living how they are I don’t see how that could work. Oh this is all so awful how can someone do this to a baby let alone their own little baby 😞
 
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For all we know the baby isn’t in Brighton. They might’ve buried it and aren’t going to reveal. She sounds like she has some serious mh issues.
 
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The twitter comments on this are diabolical.

So many of them suggesting this is about race, that the police are only hunting them because a black man has (in the eyes of the police/media) ‘kidnapped’ a wealthy, aristocratic white woman. I find this infuriating. It’s nothing to do with race and everything to do with the wellbeing of an innocent little baby. They were being hunted because they have previously had kids removed and, as others have suggested, given Constance’s wealth and status the reasons for removal must have been extreme.

The other tweets that are ridiculous are those suggesting that they were only hunting for her BECAUSE of her wealth and social status. As if. I mean could you imagine the absolute tit storm if a working-class mum went on the run with her newborn after other kids had been removed? The public would be urging the police to find her, not be questioning why she did it!
 
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So glad to see a thread on here about this case as I’ve only read Facebook/twitter and boy it’s WILD out there! Tattle gets a bad rep but I always find in real life cases to be the most factual/ balanced comments
 
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Why are the police only testing the placenta now for the gender of the baby when they found the placenta at the beginning of January? Surely they should have done it back then so they were armed with as much information as possible.
 
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I can’t stop thinking about that baby. Poor little mite. As bad as this sounds at this point I pray it’s already passed weeks prior and isn’t currently stuffed somewhere cold desperately starving and crying scared. Hopefully you’ll understand what I mean. Just want to shake the mother!! She’s doing herself no favours and proving why they wanted to find them in the first place.
 
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Why are the police only testing the placenta now for the gender of the baby when they found the placenta at the beginning of January? Surely they should have done it back then so they were armed with as much information as possible.
I’m not sure the gender of the baby was that important really? Girls and boys don’t look any different as newborns
 
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Why are the police only testing the placenta now for the gender of the baby when they found the placenta at the beginning of January? Surely they should have done it back then so they were armed with as much information as possible.
Pretty sure they would have, and sampled it for DNA purposes in case a body was ever found.

Even if that’s been released in a headline tonight I’d still expect it was done when it was found. The police happen to be canny buggers like that. 😎
 
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Sickens me to say this but with the fathers sexual offences could the baby’s gender make it more at risk.
I don’t think so. He committed sex offences against an adult woman

(Unless there is something we don’t know re the other children- but I still don’t think it’s important . It’s not like you think oh a boy will be ok with him, he only rapes newborn girls is it?)
 
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I don’t think so. He committed sex offences against an adult woman
He isn’t a man to be trusted with anything in my opinion. I’m sure in the next few weeks and months we will hear some harrowing stories which I believe the police have kept quiet so far to not push them away further
 
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So this poor baby would have been the third child she had taken away from her? I’m sorry but she is an awful piece of tit. I get what is being said about coercive control (I’ve been in that kind of abusive relationship situation myself) BUT to be such an appalling mother is beyond reproach. I grew up with a mother that always put herself and her boyfriend first and the effects on me were utterly devastating. He may have been an hole but she had the chance to get me away from him every single day. She didn’t. She stuck by him. And that is exactly what I see has happened here.
 
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Sickens me to say this but with the fathers sexual offences could the baby’s gender make it more at risk.
Of course, but he attacked a woman, not a baby or child. If he attacks anything and everything I think the police would have said he’s dangerous and not to approach him.

personally I’d be surprised if he attacked their other child(ren), I bet it’s drugs, coercive control and not complying with restrictions in place. Though you can imagine he’s convinced her it’s him SS and the police don’t want her with, just to mess with her mind more.

when police arrested him it was her rushing to his defence shouting he had poor mental health. Well what’s her mental health like being alone with him giving birth and being dragged all over? He’s done a right number on her. She'll never trust the police trying to help her.
 
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Why did he have a stick?
Looked like he was struggling to walk
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Arrested them for manslaughter and neglect. Poor baba. 💔
Its now gross negligence manslaughter as they can detain them longer. No longer the neglect charge as far as i can see
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Unforgiveable not to take the baby for medical care. And even being arrested she's only concerned about her man.
Tbf we dont know if her and the baby have had no medical attention. The police pressume they havent
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Agreed. They didn't buy a pram with a cozy bassinet for the baby to sleep in. It was a stroller, not cozy for a newborn.
Tbf you can get strollers suitable from birth
 
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My curiosity got the better of me and I went and looked at CM’s facebook page. I can’t reconcile how happy, healthy and well-kept she and the babies look in the pictures and I wonder what went wrong for them to be taken or for her to spiral out of control like this? Were they all taken early on one by one or did something happen for all to be taken at once? I notice I this photo and man is holding one of the babies and is wearing a wedding band.. is it MG or a different man? Perhaps dad is a different boyfriend but is also black? And the father has custody because she went off the rails with MG? Just a thought…View attachment 1994685
 
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My curiosity got the better of me and I went and looked at CM’s facebook page. I can’t reconcile how happy, healthy and well-kept she and the babies look in the pictures and I wonder what went wrong for them to be taken or for her to spiral out of control like this? Were they all taken early on one by one or did something happen for all to be taken at once? I notice I this photo and man is holding one of the babies and is wearing a wedding band.. is it MG or a different man? Perhaps dad is a different boyfriend but is also black? And the father has custody because she went off the rails with MG? Just a thought…View attachment 1994685
Is her name spelt the same on her FB page?
 
Is her name spelt the same on her FB page?
It's Toots Marten I think
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My curiosity got the better of me and I went and looked at CM’s facebook page. I can’t reconcile how happy, healthy and well-kept she and the babies look in the pictures and I wonder what went wrong for them to be taken or for her to spiral out of control like this? Were they all taken early on one by one or did something happen for all to be taken at once? I notice I this photo and man is holding one of the babies and is wearing a wedding band.. is it MG or a different man? Perhaps dad is a different boyfriend but is also black? And the father has custody because she went off the rails with MG? Just a thought…View attachment 1994685
Are these photographs in the public domain?
 
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