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Yes I think so. That’s what happened in the Lucy Letby trial, some charges had verdicts and a few didn’t.
The onus is on the jury to reach a decision. Victoria deserves that at least and not some half-hearted attempt which leaves everything up in the air. Her death was completely avoidable.
The Jury needs a full week in, so they can have proper run at going through the evidence and try to come to a decision. There must come a point when they've discussed it all. I personally think they are both responsible for that baby's death and should be found guilty.
Watching the CCTV court evidence, I was shocked at how CM kept covering Victoria's head and face. Sadly,It was only a matter of time until Constance suffocated her baby. She is a truly terrible mother and it scares me that she doesn't see it. I think Mark is far more nastier, controlling then he comes across as. I don't see how some of the jury think Victoria's death was an unfortunate accident.
But there are still protesters outside the old Bailey supporting CM - protesters who have an axe to grind with social services. These people seem batshit crazy to me - I cannot fathom how anyone could be in her corner on this. But I do wonder if arriving at court and seeing people protesting in her favour might sway the jury.
It's possible there are a few members of the jury, who sympathise with CM. Her baby died, also we haven't heard all the evidence the jurors had about why the other children were removed. She may have suffered more in her relationship with Mark then has been publicly revealed.
I think a lot of the court protesters will have had children removed by SS, and are mainly protesting for themselves.
I think a lot of the court protesters will have had children removed by SS, and are mainly protesting for themselves.
I keep wondering that. And if anyone was there.
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this is the sort of tit that the defence will use in their favour. Who on earth has shared what is only known in court and must be subject to reporting restrictions.
(I don’t mean this at you @DianaBanana but whoever posted it on WS!)
the flimsy buggy they had and Victoria being in just a babygrow, in the winter
I don't believe that a noisy rabble protesting outside the court would influence any jury member's reasoning based on solid evidence presented in the course of the trial. Presumably no jury member would be selected for this trial if they had past negative history with SS anyway?
Last day for the pair of them to apply for a postal vote re the GE..Let's hope it won't be necessary and the only MP they will be involved with will be an HMP.
I think it means they went into court as they have to, and then were sent out. So jury are deliberating.
Not sure though!
This case has become farcical. I've said all along that I think the pair of them should be locked up and the key thrown away, however I also believe everyone is entitled to a fair trial. The stop start nature of this, the dragging on, the weeks off are not in my opinion fair.
I appreciate the argument that ole Connie contributed to it due to her incessant, ridiculous rambling but that's on the Judge and prosecuting council to control. IMO they played a dangerous game in letting her ramble believing she would further incriminate herself and the jury would see it and I don't think that gamble has paid off.
I think if the jury still can't agree on count 4&5 then they aren't likely to and they should be found NG. I believe they ARE guilty but they've been judged by a jury of their peers who cannot agree on that. I feel the prosecution has failed in their duty here and the ramifications will be no justice at all for Victoria
I appreciate the argument that ole Connie contributed to it due to her incessant, ridiculous rambling but that's on the Judge and prosecuting council to control. IMO they played a dangerous game in letting her ramble believing she would further incriminate herself and the jury would see it and I don't think that gamble has paid off.
I think if the jury still can't agree on count 4&5 then they aren't likely to and they should be found NG. I believe they ARE guilty but they've been judged by a jury of their peers who cannot agree on that. I feel the prosecution has failed in their duty here and the ramifications will be no justice at all for Victoria