Yes they would be free to go, unless there’s longer sentencing for the two they’ve been instructed to find guilty onSurely they’ll just be dotting the Is and crossing the Ts?! Do they get released if a retrial is necessary? I hate that after a guilty verdict they will get the time served back as the sentences available to the judge won’t be very long anyway. You just know he will demand compensation if they are found not guilty of the more serious charges
Cost does not come into it, the judge decides if there will be a retrial in the interests of justice.Yes im not confident in this jury being able to find a majority. But I’m afraid there won’t be a retrial. I think it would be deemed not in the public interest to try again. The costs must be phenomenal.
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There will be a couple of guilty verdicts of course, but I think they will have served enough time on remand for those.
I don’t think there would be if this ends up hung. They aren’t an active danger to the public (Mark’s previous conviction being basically entirely irrelevant to this one and as far we know and anyone can judge he’s not reoffended that way) and there’s a fair chance even a retrial would end up hung.Cost does not come into it, the judge decides if there will be a retrial in the interests of justice.
Why do you think there wouldn’t be?
I hope it doesn’t come to this though
It’s the CPS who decides if there will be a retrial, not the judge.Cost does not come into it, the judge decides if there will be a retrial in the interests of justice.
Why do you think there wouldn’t be?
I hope it doesn’t come to this though
Yes sorry that was an additional thought, not really to do with being a factor - although I do think it will be in consideration.Cost does not come into it, the judge decides if there will be a retrial in the interests of justice.
Why do you think there wouldn’t be?
I hope it doesn’t come to this though
Agree completelyI don’t think there would be if this ends up hung. They aren’t an active danger to the public (Mark’s previous conviction being basically entirely irrelevant to this one and as far we know and anyone can judge he’s not reoffended that way) and there’s a fair chance even a retrial would end up hung.
But surely there is a seriously high chance of reoffending I.e. hiding more children and/or fleeing the country?I don’t think there would be if this ends up hung. They aren’t an active danger to the public (Mark’s previous conviction being basically entirely irrelevant to this one and as far we know and anyone can judge he’s not reoffended that way) and there’s a fair chance even a retrial would end up hung.
Definitely.But surely there is a seriously high chance of reoffending I.e. hiding more children and/or fleeing the country?
They can try to ensure MG doesn’t flee the country through his ongoing SO reporting and also try to keep tabs on them that way but ultimately there’s nothing the state can do to stop them having more children. All they can hope is that SS and associated services (police, probation etc) keep a good enough eye on them that they can’t run like they did last time. There will be tons of parents out there that they’re really worried about having more children, it won’t be that unusual.But surely there is a seriously high chance of reoffending I.e. hiding more children and/or fleeing the country?
Yeah the “other people” with commitments during the scheduled trial time largely seem to have been the judge and counsel tbh. That combined with the legal submissions and the overrunning now means the jury commitments are starting to impact, but that’s the judge and counsels fault entirely.I personally don’t see the jury as in the wrong even if they have got plans that they need to uphold. The trial was supposed to end 14 weeks ago!
There has been so much in and out of court and legal submissions that have interrupted deliberations too. That’s not on the jurors.
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