In short yes, especially when that money could have been spent on protecting the vulnerable in a better way, so setting up services so they weren't left isolated, or on providing a better way to educate our young people, or more money to provide mental health care for people suffering due to job losses. Or paying to recruit all the NHS staff that volunteered to help and could be in the waste of money that was the Nightingale hospitals but were ignored and now we have people dying of cancer ect unnecessarily.Rant incoming...
Does anyone else feel physically sick each day as lockdown continues knowing what it's costing? £2.4b per day to be exact. Yes I am still banging on about it and will continue to because it just blows my mind how the topic is completely absent from the narrative within government, media and real life? I broached it when walking with my friend this weekend and she physically recoiled.
Everyone should be fighting tooth and nail for this to end NOW. No "it is what it is" "whenever the vaccine takes effect" approach. I cannot believe that there are fully grown, working, tax-paying adults that are unconcerned by the UK economy being paused for 10 months and are actually comfortable with this continuing indefinitely?
The idea that anti-lockdowners are selfish 'granny killers' is genuinely nonsensical. When the cost of living trebles and Doris can't afford to keep the heating on, she will die. Why does no one care about that? Why is no one even mentioning it? The economy has a greater impact on lifespan than COVID - including the vulnerable - I cannot stress this enough. Once furlough ends the economic ripple effect of redundancies, loan defaults and businesses collapsing will be biblical. Yet all I see is an occasional "guys I'm kinda worried for my husband's job" like... yeah. That is an extremely wise concern to have in the current climate.
I don't care if I'm scaring people because we absolutely should be scared. Maybe if more were we wouldn't be in this mess! This is past the point of concern for our jobs but our pensions and money in our account too. I predict post-furlough a lot of pro-lockdowners will find themselves unable to put food on the table and will feel very different about having no right to protest...
It goes way bigger than the old and vulnerable, they're dismantling capitalism and bringing in the 4th industrial revolution.The government have messed this up for a reason. Kill all the disabled and old people, therefore they will not be a drain on the society.
Exactly. When the new normal was being used straight away I knew something else was going on.It goes way bigger than the old and vulnerable, they're dismantling capitalism and bringing in the 4th industrial revolution.
Check out this video on the great reset. Not sure how long it'll be up for.
Yes this is the plan 4th industrial revolution, crash the economy enslave the people. people in fear are easier to control. when the whole world is following the same script its a plan. too many people think the government wouldn't do such a thing? really how come nothing else matters in the world right now? they have never tried to wipe out world hunger because that doesn't bring in money.... follow the money.It goes way bigger than the old and vulnerable, they're dismantling capitalism and bringing in the 4th industrial revolution.
Check out this video on the great reset. Not sure how long it'll be up for.
Also, you poison a whole country through their water supply, that becomes obvious. Releasing a virus that targets the vulnerable is clandestine and hard to identify a perpetrator. It’s genius.Because the government have made sure that we can't control this.
How have Vietnam, Greece, South Korea, Japan, Iceland, Norway, Finland, Australia, Thailand and New Zealand, all have managed not to find themselves in our position. Do you have any proof that the virus was intentionally released?Also, you poison a whole country through their water supply, that becomes obvious. Releasing a virus that targets the vulnerable is clandestine and hard to identify a perpetrator. It’s genius.
There are buckets full of speculation on this. WHO are currently in Wuhan attempting to discover the source of the virus. Best guess so far from many “experts” is that the poorly managed laboratory on the outskirts of Wuhan, who were well known for carrying out research on the Coronavirus, was responsible for accidentally infecting a worker there. There is documentary evidence to show their involvement with the virus and to show they worked on the bats identified as carriers. I don’t think Trump was far off the mark when he called it “Kung Flu”. Let’s see what the WHO come up with and how willing the Chinese are to co-operate with them. Who knowsHow have Vietnam, Greece, South Korea, Japan, Iceland, Norway, Finland, Australia, Thailand and New Zealand, all have managed not to find themselves in our position. Do you have any proof that the virus was intentionally released?
Whilst I know Thailand are in nowhere near our position with regards to deaths i have a friend who lives there at the moment and they are back in lockdown after an outbreak. I spoke to him yesterday. In December they were wearing masks but not locked down as I understood it.How have Vietnam, Greece, South Korea, Japan, Iceland, Norway, Finland, Australia, Thailand and New Zealand, all have managed not to find themselves in our position. Do you have any proof that the virus was intentionally released?
Bali back in lockdown as well.Whilst I know Thailand are in nowhere near our position with regards to deaths i have a friend who lives there at the moment and they are back in lockdown after an outbreak. I spoke to him yesterday. In December they were wearing masks but not locked down as I understood it.
I also have a friend who's living in Wuhan. I spoke to her last week and she said things were okay there and some photos not everyone was wearing masks. I have not spoken to her since and that is concerning me as she has also not posted online so I fear she may be locked down again
I don’t want a vaccine. I’ve had all the typical ones growing up but don’t bother with medication other than the pill, which I am dubious about (moods) but it stops periods so I’m willing to take the risk with that. I don’t have a passport and not really bothered about being stopped on that front but I think they’ll make life very difficult with regards to jobs and socialising here.I didn’t even know this thread existed here and I’m glad I found it tonight as there are other people who are more awake to what’s going on in the world!! Will anyone be refusing the vaccine? To me it’s all been about control, masks / social distancing / the hygiene concepts ... of course they work to an extent but that’s common sense, the people who I know who have covid are those who were practicing these religiously though ... so to me it’s just about the measurement of control the government want to measure over the population and next the vaccine ... problem+fear = control
I don't think it's a case of either or. Both are true and devastating but one needs to be under control to resolve the other. It's the black and white thinking that is dividing everyone.Rant incoming...
Does anyone else feel physically sick each day as lockdown continues knowing what it's costing? £2.4b per day to be exact. Yes I am still banging on about it and will continue to because it just blows my mind how the topic is completely absent from the narrative within government, media and real life? I broached it when walking with my friend this weekend and she physically recoiled.
Everyone should be fighting tooth and nail for this to end NOW. No "it is what it is" "whenever the vaccine takes effect" approach. I cannot believe that there are fully grown, working, tax-paying adults that are unconcerned by the UK economy being paused for 10 months and are actually comfortable with this continuing indefinitely?
The idea that anti-lockdowners are selfish 'granny killers' is genuinely nonsensical. When the cost of living trebles and Doris can't afford to keep the heating on, she will die. Why does no one care about that? Why is no one even mentioning it? The economy has a greater impact on lifespan than COVID - including the vulnerable - I cannot stress this enough. Once furlough ends the economic ripple effect of redundancies, loan defaults and businesses collapsing will be biblical. Yet all I see is an occasional "guys I'm kinda worried for my husband's job" like... yeah. That is an extremely wise concern to have in the current climate.
I don't care if I'm scaring people because we absolutely should be scared. Maybe if more were we wouldn't be in this mess! This is past the point of concern for our jobs but our pensions and money in our account too. I predict post-furlough a lot of pro-lockdowners will find themselves unable to put food on the table and will feel very different about having no right to protest...
But they’re not both equally devastating. 99.98% survival rate for ages 20-45 versus waking up to 2,000% inflation and all the money in your account being worthless. Looting, mass homelessness and being unable to feed yourself and your children. I really do not believe in the event of total economic collapse that anyone would think it was fair enough and reopening society wasn’t worth the risk.I don't think it's a case of either or. Both are true and devastating but one needs to be under control to resolve the other. It's the black and white thinking that is dividing everyone.
I’m a massive conspiracy theorist who grew up with a wonderful childhood. My parents adored each other and it was 100% til death do us part. I look back and smile. I am probably older than most on this site. The difference I see in myself to today’s generation is I formed every one of my own opinions. There was no social media. I never watched news. I was out playing and exploring. I’m free thinking and know that nobody else’s opinion or thought has any bearing on my life outcome whatsoever and I think there lies today’s problems. Peer pressure, unstable family and online perfection. I would not want to be in my 20s now for all the money in the world. Everything is over complicated, analysed within an inch of its life and altered to suit fashionable narratives and manipulation and influence is at an all time high. There’s a lot of sheep out there.How was everyones childhood? Was it all sunshine and Daisies or or was there an undercurrent of other stuff going on maybe perhaps manipulation et cetera that you have as an adult have become more aware of? The reason I asked is because many people I know who are aware of their own childhoods being less then perfect are more open to conspiracy theory then those that believe their parents were perfect.
I Was raised around manipulation, which is why I feel it’s easy for me spot, both in individuals and Government narrative.
Thank you for taking the time to reply. That’s my theory out the windowI’m a massive conspiracy theorist who grew up with a wonderful childhood. My parents adored each other and it was 100% til death do us part. I look back and smile. I am probably older than most on this site. The difference I see in myself to today’s generation is I formed every one of my own opinions. There was no social media. I never watched news. I was out playing and exploring. I’m free thinking and know that nobody else’s opinion or thought has any bearing on my life outcome whatsoever and I think there lies today’s problems. Peer pressure, unstable family and online perfection. I would not want to be in my 20s now for all the money in the world. Everything is over complicated, analysed within an inch of its life and altered to suit fashionable narratives and manipulation and influence is at an all time high. There’s a lot of sheep out there.
Sorry to smash your theoryThank you for taking the time to reply. That’s my theory out the window
I also had an ability from a young age to see through things and not be a sheep as you put it. I just wondered if parental influences impacted that. Your childhood sounds great.
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