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bubbadabut

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I completely understand Range Rover lady's struggles, but it would be nice if she contributed to her road use by paying her vehicle tax. Per various Twitter sources, it's been unpaid since June 2021 🙈
 
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WilmaHun

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Absolutely not.

A substance like acid I would most definately draw the line at.

However much of this has been brought on by the lack of action taken by our Police Force. If they moved these protesters on within a matter of minutes, not hours, then much of this conflict could be avoided.
I agree. There is much more that could be done, however I guess when you're an outsider looking in that's very easy to say. I assume the police are surrounded by much red tape which prevents them doing what we'd all so love them to do, which is just move them on and tell them to bugger off!
 
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Yel

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Jesus, this seems a world apart from all the other stuff. At least milk spilt can just be cleaned up in a few minutes.

I don't think they'll get off this lightly


Just Stop Oil activists throw tomato soup on Van Gogh's Sunflowers and glue themselves to the wall at the National Gallery
  • Police have arrested two women after Van Gogh's Sunflowers painting had Heinz tomato soup thrown on it
  • The incident took place at London's National Gallery this morning and was filmed by shocked art lovers
  • The 19th-century painting, estimated to be worth at least £76 million, was 'unharmed' police have said
  • Protesters Phoebe Plummer, 21, and Anna Holland, 20, were arrested by police after the demonstration
  • The pair of Just Stop Oil climate activists had glued themselves to the floor and had to be freed by police
 
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Doctor_Wibble

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25 bank street? I used to work there
Sorry, not sure - saw it on the news and either they didn't specify or I was already turning back to what I had been doing - having decided it was pointless vandalism and therefore probably also muttering something including but not limited to 'FFS'.

Also, I could have found the answer in less time than it took to type this 🤦‍♀️
 
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Margo_Channing

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Well not only grandiose, but also apparently gifted with generational foresight.


“Future generations will regard these prisoners of conscience to be on the right side of history."

History is filled with the graves of the victims of fanatics with moral certainty.
I wish they bring back the old short rope long drop!!
 
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rainbowlemon

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They did the same for Les Miserables too.

Some theatre tickets can also be bought for £25-£30 pounds if you sit far away enough.
 
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Piff paff puff

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Another 2 soup vandals today 🤡

Why soup?
Why paintings?

I'm struggling to find a motive? Is it because they are oil paintings? 🤔
 
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NeverEnough

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Kier Starmer has come out and said that he supports these moves and they would not be repealed under a future Labour Government.

Something has to be done.

As it currently stands there will be serious escalations in the future, whereby fed up members of the public WILL take the law into their own hands to deal with this continual disruption. Just Stop Oil are just causing a war with the general public.

If the idiotic Deputy Commissioner of the Met Police doesn't want the public to step in and do the job of the Police, then they need to step up and deal with these idiots blocking the roads and spraying buildings. Moving them on immediately, no more of this 'softly Softly' crap that isn't working. Lawlessness of the protesters is being dealt with by lawlessness from the public.

I think it is high time that some of these businesses that have been sprayed with orange paint took Just Stop Oil to court to claim damages and compensation. It isn't right that they should have to stump up clean up costs. Just Stop Oil should be paying for those costs.

These idiots aren't peacefully protesting. They are causing the public uneccesary hassle and causing criminal damage to property.
Whereas I agree with the sentiment I think it will be hell difficult to sue Just Stop Oil as I doubt they are an incorporated entity with an identifiable ownership or management structure. Who therefore would you actually sue? I suppose you could seek damages from the individuals involved as a proxy, but do you really really want to create martyrs and be the big business victimising the underdog? Because that is how it will be portrayed and in the age of crowd funding that's at least 200k in a defence fund.

At lot of these companies have boxed themselves into a corner by making numerous virtue signalling statements about their green credentials. Not a good look if one hand your website is screaming sustainability on on the other you are suing people who on their day in court will argue that is what they are protesting about.
 
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bubbadabut

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True. I understand her frustration, but she lost it, and is now about to enter a world of pain.
Agreed. You can't just go round ramming people with an SUV, no matter how annoyed you are. She could easily be done for dangerous driving. Also her untaxed vehicle will have been reported hundreds of times today. If untaxed possibly uninsured as well? Her front tyres are completely bald in the middle. Obviously a very careful driver 🥴. Got herself into a bad situation.
 
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Bubu

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I think the point is it's a pile of plastic and whatever else, a lot of it is single use. It's from people claiming they care but can't use a reusable water bottle or are chucking carrier bags, which a lot of us don't do. It's a bit hypocritical to claim they care about the planet but are doing less than the average person.
Yep that will all go straight to land fill and won't get sorted into recycling (not that a lot of things that get put into recycling get recycled anyway)
 
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Doctor_Wibble

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Where are the nutters today? Anybody know?
There was a breaking of windows at JPMorgan which presumably has some great significance.
Two of the heavy duty street level windows, the extinction rebellier responsible posing with what appears to be a poor and disappointingly small imitation of Mallett's mallet.
 
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Codiaeum

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The UK Produces around 341.5 Mt (Megatons) annually. Far less than the likes of Germany.
is that a per capita reading? More people and industry (well, not all, but some industries…) will raise that obviously. And with Germany shutting down the nuclear plants, other stuff gets burned, which was just a stupid move, if you ask me.
What really disturbed me is those near east countries burning oil like there’s truly no tomorrow for shite. Let’s be honest. Nobody needed that football stadium in the effing desert.
 
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Eggsandbeans

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The activists may be out in force more so at the moment, as Greta is out and about again so attention will be on climate stuff.
 
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Run 101

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Well we’re here talking about it so shit tons of earned media worth its weight in gold & increasing public sympathy as they’ve largely moved away from stunts that inconvenience the working person (appreciate there’s still traffic blocking going on). More power to them ✊🏻
They need locking up, they wont be happy untill someone dies because of one of their road blocks, OH no thats already happened - they are NOT going to get what they want and nor should they - if they do anyone with a cause will just do the same thing. they should be moved straight away not "assessed" the french police have the right idea rip their delicate little hands off the road - i still laugh at the video
 
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rainbowlemon

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I was reading the fitness to practice hearing for one of the protestors. The judge's comments are from there.

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The only reason he will not protest again is:

"He informed the Committee that he was the subject of a civil injunction brought about by a private company which would prevent him from repeating his behaviour."
 
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Yel

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I largely support what they're trying to do, there has bit of a smear campaign as probably so many of the millionaires running the big newspapers are tied into fossil fuels and the continual extraction. The ones I've heard interviewed on LBC have been articulate and well spoken.

Too many gotchas - the rubbish wasn't that much and could have been from the spectators or journalists trying to make a point. We're all hypocritical to a certain extent just trying to do our best in the situation, no ones perfect.

As good as the Attenborough documentary is, it would just make most people think not to buy palm oil for the next 30 mins then it slips to the back of their head.

There does need to be a re-jigging of the economy to move away from fossil fuels and stop extracting them, but it makes people rich and is easier than developing alternatives. Ultimately the human race will be wiped out one day, I think it's all too late for anything to change. It's been the biggest story in a long time and has got people speaking and it's all over now with them just protesting in marble arch so can be ignored.
 
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Whatspopping

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I think certain environmental ideas are hard for the wider population to get their heads around. Oil is just this substance that we use in our cars. There's no personal connection to it, unless you work on the rigs. Something like Just Stop Sewage would appeal to a broader audience than Just Stop Oil because we don't want to get sick from swimming or paddling in our rivers and seas, and we certainly don't want contaminated water supplies.
 
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