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On my second to last tray, my teeth are looking straight af and tbh I would be happy to leave them as they are now, but one of the teeth at the bottom hasn’t rotated as it was expected to, so my dentist says it’s on to the refinements now 🥴. Kinda cba at this point, but may as well keep going
I’m due to finish tomorrow and have my ‘final’ check up in the morning. Last time I went in, my dentist said at tomorrow’s appointment I will only be around 85% done and then will get refinements til I’m happy. Don’t get me wrong, I want them to be perfect but I’m exactly the same as you now!! I thought the end would be the end but another month or two… 🤦🏻‍♀️
 
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Im getting so sick of my invisalign 🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠 i have about 6 trays left but i am definitely going to need refinements. Cba honestly! I so hope it will be worth it
 
Had another appointment yesterday. Essentially, I developed an open bite from the old retainer I have been wearing religiously at night ever since I had braces 10 years ago as a teenager - what happened was that the wisdom teeth that were not covered by it were free to overerupt, this leading me to develop a mild (visually speaking) anterior open bite.

In terms of aesthetics, there is not an issue and the rest of my teeth are still straight due to diligently wearing the old retainer at night. However, functionally I have been having some issues with speech and eating - with speech, my teeth tend to clack against each other and it almost feels like the back molar tooth is getting in the way of my speech. In terms of eating, certain food is really tricky to tear into and chew properly like salad leaves, spaghetti, mozzarella etc. It's these functional issues that are getting me down and making me quite anxious. It's not nice feeling like you're going to choke on certain food.

It took me 3 months to wait for the initial consultation, I went back to the same practice I was treated at as a teenager and saw both of the orthos there. This was 6 weeks ago. So they essentially identified this issue and said my bite had opened up a bit and I have those wisdom teeth making premature contact. So they proposed a few options, one of which was applying stuff, braces, to those wisdom teeth only along w elastics to get them in better alignment, since the rest of my teeth are already aligned well. This would amount to 4 months or so. I thought this would be quite reasonable. I did mention my anxiety around my bite issues too, which I'm not sure was the best idea now.

So I had my second appointment yesterday and honestly came away feeling rather despondent. I felt like this appointment was more rushed and they seemed way more insistent on talking about the 'perception' of the bite and how oh well if you go with this treatment, we can't guarantee that your perception of your bite will be better. And they talked about maybe incorporating diet modifications as a solution as I struggle to eat certain food and talking for a long time is aggravating because my teeth often clank. I have to admit, I was a bit demoralised at hearing this as I was so looking forward to finally sorting this issue out and not having to fear choking every time I eat dinner. They made me a new retainer and said I could try it for 6 months, at which time I return for another appointment, which would at least stop any worsening from occurring.

I'm very conflicted right now. In one sense, I appreciate that they weren't just out to take my money and conservative. On the other, I feel like they were a bit dismissive and talked a lot about the 'perception' of my bite which almost made me feel like it were in my head. Which is confusing to me as during my initial consult they did identify a legitimate issue, the open bite caused by the hypererupted wisdom teeth. I'm not really prepared to just live with this issue in perpetuity. I'm not sure if I came across very favourably either as I can be quite anxious and highly strung so perhaps they just got the idea that no matter what they did I wouldn't be satisfied.

I'm now wondering if I should seek out a 2nd opinion. Sorry for this huge long essay lol, it's just hard to find a lot of other similar cases online, although I have found some and it seems like it can definitely be addressed. Just feel at a loss and want to get this bite issue sorted asap. I wonder if anyone else here has had the same issue.
 
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From the few cases you've seen, do you have an idea of what could be done to fix it? Does their suggestion seem appropriate? Obviously you're not a dental professional and I don't mean to imply that 😂 I just mean, is it their solely their attitude that has bothered you, or is it the intervention they're suggesting too?
 
Had another appointment yesterday. Essentially, I developed an open bite from the old retainer I have been wearing religiously at night ever since I had braces 10 years ago as a teenager - what happened was that the wisdom teeth that were not covered by it were free to overerupt, this leading me to develop a mild (visually speaking) anterior open bite.

In terms of aesthetics, there is not an issue and the rest of my teeth are still straight due to diligently wearing the old retainer at night. However, functionally I have been having some issues with speech and eating - with speech, my teeth tend to clack against each other and it almost feels like the back molar tooth is getting in the way of my speech. In terms of eating, certain food is really tricky to tear into and chew properly like salad leaves, spaghetti, mozzarella etc. It's these functional issues that are getting me down and making me quite anxious. It's not nice feeling like you're going to choke on certain food.

It took me 3 months to wait for the initial consultation, I went back to the same practice I was treated at as a teenager and saw both of the orthos there. This was 6 weeks ago. So they essentially identified this issue and said my bite had opened up a bit and I have those wisdom teeth making premature contact. So they proposed a few options, one of which was applying stuff, braces, to those wisdom teeth only along w elastics to get them in better alignment, since the rest of my teeth are already aligned well. This would amount to 4 months or so. I thought this would be quite reasonable. I did mention my anxiety around my bite issues too, which I'm not sure was the best idea now.

So I had my second appointment yesterday and honestly came away feeling rather despondent. I felt like this appointment was more rushed and they seemed way more insistent on talking about the 'perception' of the bite and how oh well if you go with this treatment, we can't guarantee that your perception of your bite will be better. And they talked about maybe incorporating diet modifications as a solution as I struggle to eat certain food and talking for a long time is aggravating because my teeth often clank. I have to admit, I was a bit demoralised at hearing this as I was so looking forward to finally sorting this issue out and not having to fear choking every time I eat dinner. They made me a new retainer and said I could try it for 6 months, at which time I return for another appointment, which would at least stop any worsening from occurring.

I'm very conflicted right now. In one sense, I appreciate that they weren't just out to take my money and conservative. On the other, I feel like they were a bit dismissive and talked a lot about the 'perception' of my bite which almost made me feel like it were in my head. Which is confusing to me as during my initial consult they did identify a legitimate issue, the open bite caused by the hypererupted wisdom teeth. I'm not really prepared to just live with this issue in perpetuity. I'm not sure if I came across very favourably either as I can be quite anxious and highly strung so perhaps they just got the idea that no matter what they did I wouldn't be satisfied.

I'm now wondering if I should seek out a 2nd opinion. Sorry for this huge long essay lol, it's just hard to find a lot of other similar cases online, although I have found some and it seems like it can definitely be addressed. Just feel at a loss and want to get this bite issue sorted asap. I wonder if anyone else here has had the same issue.
I would definitely get a second opinion on it. the above poster mentioned about getting your wisdom teeth removed, I’d query if that would resolve it
 
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Had another appointment yesterday. Essentially, I developed an open bite from the old retainer I have been wearing religiously at night ever since I had braces 10 years ago as a teenager - what happened was that the wisdom teeth that were not covered by it were free to overerupt, this leading me to develop a mild (visually speaking) anterior open bite.

In terms of aesthetics, there is not an issue and the rest of my teeth are still straight due to diligently wearing the old retainer at night. However, functionally I have been having some issues with speech and eating - with speech, my teeth tend to clack against each other and it almost feels like the back molar tooth is getting in the way of my speech. In terms of eating, certain food is really tricky to tear into and chew properly like salad leaves, spaghetti, mozzarella etc. It's these functional issues that are getting me down and making me quite anxious. It's not nice feeling like you're going to choke on certain food.

It took me 3 months to wait for the initial consultation, I went back to the same practice I was treated at as a teenager and saw both of the orthos there. This was 6 weeks ago. So they essentially identified this issue and said my bite had opened up a bit and I have those wisdom teeth making premature contact. So they proposed a few options, one of which was applying stuff, braces, to those wisdom teeth only along w elastics to get them in better alignment, since the rest of my teeth are already aligned well. This would amount to 4 months or so. I thought this would be quite reasonable. I did mention my anxiety around my bite issues too, which I'm not sure was the best idea now.

So I had my second appointment yesterday and honestly came away feeling rather despondent. I felt like this appointment was more rushed and they seemed way more insistent on talking about the 'perception' of the bite and how oh well if you go with this treatment, we can't guarantee that your perception of your bite will be better. And they talked about maybe incorporating diet modifications as a solution as I struggle to eat certain food and talking for a long time is aggravating because my teeth often clank. I have to admit, I was a bit demoralised at hearing this as I was so looking forward to finally sorting this issue out and not having to fear choking every time I eat dinner. They made me a new retainer and said I could try it for 6 months, at which time I return for another appointment, which would at least stop any worsening from occurring.

I'm very conflicted right now. In one sense, I appreciate that they weren't just out to take my money and conservative. On the other, I feel like they were a bit dismissive and talked a lot about the 'perception' of my bite which almost made me feel like it were in my head. Which is confusing to me as during my initial consult they did identify a legitimate issue, the open bite caused by the hypererupted wisdom teeth. I'm not really prepared to just live with this issue in perpetuity. I'm not sure if I came across very favourably either as I can be quite anxious and highly strung so perhaps they just got the idea that no matter what they did I wouldn't be satisfied.

I'm now wondering if I should seek out a 2nd opinion. Sorry for this huge long essay lol, it's just hard to find a lot of other similar cases online, although I have found some and it seems like it can definitely be addressed. Just feel at a loss and want to get this bite issue sorted asap. I wonder if anyone else here has had the same issue.
I had a similar issue to you, I always had straight teeth until my wisdom teeth came through and ruined literally everything. I had the bottom 2 removed and then a few years later, my top ones came through and totally over erupted, so I had them removed as well, and as a result my teeth shifted due to there being a load more space in my mouth and I ended up with a totally ducked up bite, I couldn’t eat and had awful TMJ pain.
I’d say get a second opinion if you want to be sure, but considering what getting my wisdom teeth removed did to my bite, I can understand why they might be hesitant about removing them, especially if they’re not impacted / causing you infections.
 
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From the few cases you've seen, do you have an idea of what could be done to fix it? Does their suggestion seem appropriate? Obviously you're not a dental professional and I don't mean to imply that 😂 I just mean, is it their solely their attitude that has bothered you, or is it the intervention they're suggesting too?
I've seen some similar cases online of an open bite being caused by a nightguard/retainer that has been resolved with orthodontic treatment, braces or invisalign. Since the rest of my teeth are already aligned from my previous stint with braces, they proposed putting attachments on solely the wisdom teeth to align them correctly (since they are making premature contact, as they said in the initial consult), which they said would take about 4 months to complete and of course cheaper than a full course of regular orthodontic treatment.

I would be pleased with that, it's more they're attitude that has bothered me - I feel like there's somehow been a lack of continuity between the initial consult and now where they're suddenly kind of sounding more reluctant to do anything about it. I honestly wonder if I've made the mistake of coming across as overly anxious to the extent that they're worried about me turning into some kind of problem patient lol. The way the ortho came across in this most recent appointment was definitely much more straying towards the overly anxious/hyperaware kind of rhetoric. I've got a further appointment 6 months down the line but in the meantime if things don't budge with this new retainer then I may seek out some second opinions! :)

Did they mention why they're not considering removing the wisdom teeth?
They proposed that as one option - it's definitely something I'd think about. In honestly I'd veer more towards the orthodontic treatment over that first, as I feel like a 4-month timespan with orthodontic attachments on only the affected wisdom teeth isn't too much of a drag for me personally.

I think I'm more just puzzled over them initially presenting me with treatment options and then in this most recent visit, seeming to backtrack, and talking a lot more about the 'perception' of the bite. I think I perhaps came across as overly anxious and neurotic and they felt that maybe I'd just become one of those 'problem patients' who's never going to be satisfied lol. :LOL::rolleyes:

I think I'll see how I get on with this new retainer they have made me, even though they said it would really just prevent any worsening and then maybe try and seek out some second opinions elsewhere. From what I have read, it seems like dental/ortho work in particular seems to be one of those areas where you could seek out a handful of qualified opinions and receive totally different treatment plans/approaches that will nevertheless get you to the same outcome.

I had a similar issue to you, I always had straight teeth until my wisdom teeth came through and ruined literally everything. I had the bottom 2 removed and then a few years later, my top ones came through and totally over erupted, so I had them removed as well, and as a result my teeth shifted due to there being a load more space in my mouth and I ended up with a totally ducked up bite, I couldn’t eat and had awful TMJ pain.
I’d say get a second opinion if you want to be sure, but considering what getting my wisdom teeth removed did to my bite, I can understand why they might be hesitant about removing them, especially if they’re not impacted / causing you infections.
Oh no, that sounds awful. So sorry to hear this. Are you still struggling with your bite nowadays or were you able to get it resolved? Honestly, teeth/bite issues are a menace. I'm honestly a little bit wary about getting mine removed as I already had 4 extractions as a teenager prior to braces so my wisdom teeth have come through with space and are not impacted - but have nevertheless become hyper-erupted due to my retainer not covering them all. So I feel like opting for the orthodontic option of having braces/attachments placed on those teeth to align them back (what they proposed as one option) would be more appealing to me, especially since my wisdom teeth are essentially healthy teeth and I'd rather not 'lose' them.

I think it just feels a lot more like they are trying to pin a lot of it on anxiety/'perception' now even though they identified an objective issue during the first consult, which confuses me. They even asked me whether I'd had a lot of stress or other things going on in my life when this developed. Sort of an understandable question ofc but also felt a bit invalidating. As it stands, this issue isn't ruining my life but it's also definitely an annoyance and not something I am content to just live with indefinitely, especially longer-term. I will maybe seek out a 2nd opinion!
 
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They proposed that as one option - it's definitely something I'd think about. In honestly I'd veer more towards the orthodontic treatment over that first, as I feel like a 4-month timespan with orthodontic attachments on only the affected wisdom teeth isn't too much of a drag for me personally.
if you can get it resolved in that time that's definitely something to think about. I only had upper wisdom teeth so mine elongated a lot and had to be removed because they were so far in the back that I could not clean them easily which resulted in cavities. Because they were out so much getting them out was really not a big deal.

Teeth are so complicated. I am currently in the process of trying to find a treatment plan. My dentist, the in-house orthodontist and a second orthodontist all have completely different opinions. It went from "easy Invisalign and 4-6 months" to "oh boy that's hardcore, 2.5 years and I'm not sure the result will be what you're hoping for really" (my upper jaw is too dominant compared to my lower jaw, I was hoping to get a more harmonious result but there's no space to move anything)
 
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My dentist predicted about 3 or 4 refinement trays… got them back the other day, I have 13 🤣🤦🏻‍♀️ This will take my Invisalign treatment to 11 months! Hopefully they’ll be done and whitened before Christmas, then just need bonding in the new year!
 
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Hope everyone is getting on OK!

I've reached the point where my cross bite is crossing over and oh my god it's not fun. I can't bite properly because I can't bring my teeth fully together. It's so frustrating.

On an up note though I can now remove top and bottom braces without a mirror and my teeth are hugely improved from where I started. So maybe I can't complain too much!
 
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I'm seriously debating starting invisalign and I'm hoping some of you may be able to help me out. I had awful teeth until I had braces around 15/16 - large gaps, very goofy etc. After traditional train track braces my teeth were fine but over the past year or so I've noticed they've shifted a little and I'm no longer happy with them. I also have a fixed retainer that's come loose meaning my teeth are starting to move (I'm out of the country until October so at a bit of a loss about sorting that!)

Anyway sorry not here to bore you with my life story, I realise every dentist will be different but I was just wondering what the appointment times were like for you? So for instance once you'd had your consultation and scans etc, how long did it take to receive your first set of aligners? Also, on average, how often do you go back to your dentist for check ups/new trays etc? I split my time between the UK and Europe for work so it's not quite as simple for me to pop back to the dentist every say 4 weeks, I'm hoping though that we'll be able to sort some sort of plan out. Any intel would be much appreciated!
 
I'm seriously debating starting invisalign and I'm hoping some of you may be able to help me out. I had awful teeth until I had braces around 15/16 - large gaps, very goofy etc. After traditional train track braces my teeth were fine but over the past year or so I've noticed they've shifted a little and I'm no longer happy with them. I also have a fixed retainer that's come loose meaning my teeth are starting to move (I'm out of the country until October so at a bit of a loss about sorting that!)

Anyway sorry not here to bore you with my life story, I realise every dentist will be different but I was just wondering what the appointment times were like for you? So for instance once you'd had your consultation and scans etc, how long did it take to receive your first set of aligners? Also, on average, how often do you go back to your dentist for check ups/new trays etc? I split my time between the UK and Europe for work so it's not quite as simple for me to pop back to the dentist every say 4 weeks, I'm hoping though that we'll be able to sort some sort of plan out. Any intel would be much appreciated!
I had two appointments, about an hour long initially where they do xrays and scans. The retainers can come as quickly as two weeks after they are ordered so in principle you can get started quite quickly. My appointments have been between 6 - 8 weeks apart but the most recent one will be longer as I have work commitments meaning I'm unavailable for a while. My dentist was fine with this and was happy to give me the extra retainers for that time. Usually I only get two new ones to take away each time. This time I have four.

I think you should be able to organise it around your schedule.
 
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I'm seriously debating starting invisalign and I'm hoping some of you may be able to help me out. I had awful teeth until I had braces around 15/16 - large gaps, very goofy etc. After traditional train track braces my teeth were fine but over the past year or so I've noticed they've shifted a little and I'm no longer happy with them. I also have a fixed retainer that's come loose meaning my teeth are starting to move (I'm out of the country until October so at a bit of a loss about sorting that!)

Anyway sorry not here to bore you with my life story, I realise every dentist will be different but I was just wondering what the appointment times were like for you? So for instance once you'd had your consultation and scans etc, how long did it take to receive your first set of aligners? Also, on average, how often do you go back to your dentist for check ups/new trays etc? I split my time between the UK and Europe for work so it's not quite as simple for me to pop back to the dentist every say 4 weeks, I'm hoping though that we'll be able to sort some sort of plan out. Any intel would be much appreciated!
I think a lot of it depends on if it’s a complex case or not. I’ve only seen my dentist once and that was at the half way point of the aligners! I’m in next week and that’s when I’m finishing!
I had one initial appointment to discuss and X-ray, one appointment to lift the trays, appointment at half way mark and then next week my final apt!
 
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Anyway sorry not here to bore you with my life story, I realise every dentist will be different but I was just wondering what the appointment times were like for you? So for instance once you'd had your consultation and scans etc, how long did it take to receive your first set of aligners? Also, on average, how often do you go back to your dentist for check ups/new trays etc? I split my time between the UK and Europe for work so it's not quite as simple for me to pop back to the dentist every say 4 weeks, I'm hoping though that we'll be able to sort some sort of plan out. Any intel would be much appreciated!
I had a consultation via Zoom, then went in a week later to have all the scans and X-rays done. That appointment was about an hour long.
There was then a 3 week wait for my trays and then I was given the first 6 (10 days for each tray for me so around 2 months).
I had to then go back after tray 6 as that was when it specified in my plan that I’d need the attachments and spacing done.
After that, I was just given the rest (about 18 more trays) and didn’t have to go back unless there was an issue.
They are pretty flexible with appointments and seeing you as often/little as you like, but bare in mind that if you need spacing doing or attachments after a certain tray, they have to do it at that time.
 
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Ahh thanks for the feedback everyone I really appreciate it! I've called my dentist this afternoon (they're a private ortho/dentist hybrid which is handy) and they're calling me back tomorrow with a quote and to arrange the initial consultation! Said it should only take around 2 weeks for the first set of aligners to be ready too! Strangely excited to get started now!
 
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Ahh thanks for the feedback everyone I really appreciate it! I've called my dentist this afternoon (they're a private ortho/dentist hybrid which is handy) and they're calling me back tomorrow with a quote and to arrange the initial consultation! Said it should only take around 2 weeks for the first set of aligners to be ready too! Strangely excited to get started now!
My aligners arrived within about 10 days! It was super quick


I went to see my orthodontist yesterday, Im onto my last 4 trays but he said i will definitely need refinements but he also said he would fast track the treatment. Im now wearing my trays 23 hours a day and ONLY taking them out to brush/eat and instantly putting them back, also changing them every 7 days instead of every 14. I was wearing them 18-20 hours before. I just want this done asap! has anyone else done this?
 
@TwooTwooTwitTwitTwoo How are you getting on with your removed tooth now? :)

I explored every possible option to not have one taken out - a front tooth anyway - asking around at different practices, seeing if they could take out 4 back premolars instead, but nope! Due to the shape of my jaw and how thin my gum tissue is none of them were having it. Then I just kinda gave up, as that versus the time (1.5 years minimum) and price (£4.5k) was too much. I can't get it out of my mind though so I'm now thinking I will take the plunge!! How has it been having a missing tooth for you? Worth it I hope!?
 
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I’m all finished up with the aligners as of last week!! Just have to wear the retainer at night time. It’s so weird without them now lol never thought I’d say that 🤣
 
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