My husband and I had a blissful few hours at a wine bar where we didn’t have to worry about moving an elf around, family pyjamas, Christmas Eve boxes let alone the day itself.
It drives me mad when people let kids do things for themselves in these kind of environments. See also paying in shops etc! I understand that kids need to learn and become independent, but when it's busy and it's holding everyone else up? Really?! It's just not appropriate.We took my niece to our local brewers fayre for an all you can eat brekko on Sunday. There was breakfast with Santa thing on, and the place was rammed.
She is 11, sensible and capable of getting her own food - so of she went and cracked on.
What I do not understand is parents (and grand-parents, who are even worse) allowing their small children spend forever serving themselves when it is so busy. The queue for toast and pastries was huge because little frigging Tarquin is stuffing pancakes in the toaster at a rate of knots! The juice bar was a wreck, glasses spilled all over the place. There was baked bean juice & Scrambled egg splattered all over the serving deck. The poor staff were doing their very best, but why are people allowing kids to do this stuff?!?
It was hellish for us (Except the fact I got to eat my own body weight in croissants and bagels)
I work in childcare so I know how kids operate... Unfortunately none of my tried and tested strategies work on my nephew! My nephew hits his parents but has never tried it on with me. Once he trashed his toys because he was frustrated and I told him to stop... He ran to grandma and told her that I had smashed up his toys! I was fumingYou sound like my colleague.
She often looks after her nephew and he is the same with the screaming but he has also started slapping/scratching.
His mum and dad give in to him but my colleague won't.
Just go on YouTube and watch supernanny clipsis their somewhere you can rent a kid? cause I have no nieces or anything to babysit and sometimes seems like i'd need the reminder. to not have kids
Tbh one of the many things that puts me off having kids is the idea of socialising with other parentsApologies, if this has been mentioned, I’ve not read the whole thread.
As a parent I can completely understand why people don’t want to have kids - now more than ever. If I was younger & didn’t already have kids I don’t think I would bother.
Most childless people are quite surprised when I’m so supportive but honestly I think it’s refreshing.
After I had my kids my mother always tried to get me to go to playgroups and other places to make ‘mum’ friends. Personally I couldn’t think of anything worse - I enjoyed going out with my friends and hearing about their lives. I’m really not interested in hearing about other people’s babies and weaning nappies teething etc.. Just because I have a child of a similar age! Same with school parents., and all my friends even the ones who have kids generally feel the same.
So you childless people are a breath of fresh air - thank you.
Thanks!Tbh one of the many things that puts me off having kids is the idea of socialising with other parentsIs it just me that finds the majority of parents incredibly boring? It's almost impossible to have a conversation without it reverting back to their kids.
Of course there are exceptions and you sound like one of them - so it's refreshing to hear from you too!
The fact that the environment is going to hell, the economy is as stable as a pile of dominoes and the politicians are more crooked than gangsters make me happy that I do not have kids.I'm pleased to come back to this thread after a slow Tattle time (the Jack Monroe thread and work was keeping me busy) because I've had some second hand news that has kinda thrown me for all sorts of reasons. It had me questioning my ideas and resolve about being child-free. I think for a few days I saw everything framed in the 2.4 children, semi detached house, family car life and started to have some real self esteem issues (working on that in general via CBT). I'm happy to reorientate myself back to *this* world though, so thanks all.
Also on the subject of inheritance - I'm in a complicated but very lucky financial situation. If I ever have significant capital of my own it won't be for some years and by then I won't really want to be up to my eyeballs in my first mortgage on a fancy property etc. I'm happy to enjoy myself but I don't want to spunk it - I think with the political and economic arena, coupled with climate change is going to make my older years pretty miserable and I'm going to want to be able to afford decent support and maintain a standard of living even if everything around me is on fire.
Take yourself to a softplay place. 10 minutes is all you'll need. Job done!is their somewhere you can rent a kid? cause I have no nieces or anything to babysit and sometimes seems like i'd need the reminder. to not have kids
The fact that the environment is going to hell, the economy is as stable as a pile of dominoes and the politicians are more crooked than gangsters make me happy that I do not have kids.
I have a little brother and he is already depressed about the future because he knows that humans are replaced by machines so most jobs won't exist by the time he graduate. He is 18 but he cannot move out because rent is higher than ever. Forget travelling or going to the clubs to meet girls. Covid prevented all that.
He is part of a generation that I do not envy.
Go to Tesco anytime between now and Christmas!is their somewhere you can rent a kid? cause I have no nieces or anything to babysit and sometimes seems like i'd need the reminder. to not have kids
Jesus ours was like hell on earth when I popped in last night!!!Go to Tesco anytime between now and Christmas!
Same. This is going to sound awful but whatever. I have muted so many friends over the last few weeks who have either had babies, or they're pregnant and already posting loads of stuff about babies. Sometimes I think I must actually be missing some kind of gene or something because I don't find babies cute at all, and anything about pregnancies/babies/children is literally so boring to me. I just hate how having a child seems to become a personality for some people.Tbh one of the many things that puts me off having kids is the idea of socialising with other parentsIs it just me that finds the majority of parents incredibly boring? It's almost impossible to have a conversation without it reverting back to their kids.
Many years ago, I went to a restaurant for a friend's birthday. This was at a time when I worked with children - so the 'friend' sat me between two pregnant women where all they wanted to do was chat pregnancy, pushchairs (sorry, travel systems) doulas and child development. I made a beeline for an empty chair between the starters and mains pretending that the person next to it was someone I hadn't seen in ages (reader: I'd never met them).Same. This is going to sound awful but whatever. I have muted so many friends over the last few weeks who have either had babies, or they're pregnant and already posting loads of stuff about babies. Sometimes I think I must actually be missing some kind of gene or something because I don't find babies cute at all, and anything about pregnancies/babies/children is literally so boring to me. I just hate how having a child seems to become a personality for some people.
I feel this way too. My youngest sister who's 6 years younger than me can't get a mortgage because she's stuck paying £800 rent on house which most likely has a £350 mortgage on it. For a lot of people I think the only way they will ever buy a home is through inheritance if their parents aren't wealthy enough to give them a leg up already. I saved for three years for the deposit on my house but was fortunate enough to still be living with my Mam (still paying her rent!). I don't have any cars on finance or go on big holidays because that's not my thing. It is a huge worry for me how my nieces and nephews will be able to afford to buy themselves cars outright and get a mortgage which is why I'm saving for them now. I'm in the trade so fortunately I won't ever be replaced by a robot but I see our office staff constantly being cut back because they are no longer needed. The jobs market will be much more competitive when they are old enough.The fact that the environment is going to hell, the economy is as stable as a pile of dominoes and the politicians are more crooked than gangsters make me happy that I do not have kids.
I have a little brother and he is already depressed about the future because he knows that humans are replaced by machines so most jobs won't exist by the time he graduate. He is 18 but he cannot move out because rent is higher than ever. Forget travelling or going to the clubs to meet girls. Covid prevented all that.
He is part of a generation that I do not envy.
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