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Her main character is literally called Olive Green

Did she come up with that when painting a wall or something? Christ.
 
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@agirlofnoimportance thank you so much for your great rundown! I’m so entertained and now at the edge of my seat waiting for your take on the next chapters. Don’t think I would be this way if I had to read it myself lol

I will offer to pay you double of what you paid to buy the book yourself but I suspect the therapy that you might need afterwards could cost a whole lot more.
 
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Every time she replies calmly I'm thinking she sent a question to herself. Because surely, if you claim to be a fan, or know her to the point you're following her on IG, you would know that she's not in those shows anymore.
to be fair, I think she’s answered that question so many times, she just has a default answer to it.
It tells you how young or possibly stupid her fans are to think she is going to be in the tours of Addams or Heathers when she’s been going on about Cinderella for 2 years!
 
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Looks like the ladies have been busy!
 
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Oh boy, with this and the Camilla Cabello "Cinderella" movie coming, all the Covid delays really did ALW dirty.
Same pink colour! And from the picture it looks like the princesses are going to be modern, sassy, a bit like Carrie's. I guess the difference is the method of performance.
 
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Yikes! That is a bit of a disaster for ALW! I can just imagine him fuming away in his little tory mancave, spitting venom.
 
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I'm a bit confused, because I've heard of Disenchanted, but it isn't usually pink — this is the 'normal' poster.



Well, not confused, they've obviously decided on a change. But I'd say it was a very "non hot pink" musical! It's clever but a bit too mocking/hard for me. The soundtrack is on Apple music if you want to give it a go.

It reminds me most of SIX, Something Rotten and Avenue Q. Sort of parody/pastiche-ish.
 
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Came to post the exact same thing. Sometimes I wonder why these people get so jaded, and then see the dumb questions they have to put up with constantly...
I’m sure her the fans that get confused are probably young and don’t understand how theatre works, but cmon
 
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Interesting how she's not said anything about it considering she was really "close" to Sophie at one point...

With this and frozen... Oh dear.... Carrie will not be impressed.
 
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I mean, isn’t that an online broadcast for only 3 days next month? I don’t see a reason why they should feel annoyed or threatened. Unless they get enough support to make it a west end musical.
 
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I mean, isn’t that an online broadcast for only 3 days next month? I don’t see a reason why they should feel annoyed or threatened. Unless they get enough support to make it a west end musical.
I agree, and even if it would go to the west end, don't really think Carrie gets jealous/annoyed at the gigs her friends/aquiantances/boyfriend get. I mean, she has her faults, but I never got the sense she would get bitter about that sort of thing. Just my two cents
 
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So here are the next few! There are less chapters in this post just because it makes sense with the story-these chapters are set in the present, and the next few are in the past, so I'll do them all together in the next post. I'm so glad so many of you are enjoying reading these and I really appreciate the kind words! I'm just having fun (well, sort of fun) but thank you for taking the time to write them! These next few chapters are some of my least favourite in the book, so please, enjoy

@DietGossip-Yes, she's called Olive Green! Seriously. I wasn't going to dignify her name with a comment on it lol. Carrie's names are usually like this; there's a character in On The Other Side called Sonny Shine, so after that, Olive Green sounds almost normal.

The first thing you need to know about Chapter Twelve is that, whatever it is is, it isn’t worth it. It wins the prize for the chapter I’ve hated the most so far; I haven’t been this angry since Olive’s “Not Like Other Girls” rant. I’ve returned to the Os real names for clarity but know that I’m saying them with the same distain as I said Orange and Onion. The whole chapter is just 1) Olive walks the last ten feet towards the theatre and sees Oscar 2) Oscar tell Tamara he’s not interested in her 3) Olive and Oscar have a chat in Olive’s dressing room which resolves nothing. That is well and truly it. Nothing in the plot moves forward, we don’t hear anything about the show, it’s just all Oscar-loves-Olive-not-Tamara-but-can’t-get-it-together, like we’ve heard a hundred times before. A whole chapter of these idiots talking in circles. I don’t remember getting this vexed the first time around, but maybe reading it more analytically has opened my eyes to its true pointlessness.

The thing is, a lot of it isn’t even written particularly badly, and that’s what’s so frustrating. Olive’s interaction with the barrister felt genuine, her feelings come across well, and her situation is relatable. It’s just boring subject matter which certainly wasn’t due an entire chapter. Oh, and of course, Tamara is written with all the subtlety of a bull in a china shop. This is a good opportunity to mention another general point about Carrie’s writing in this book; the handling of which point of view we’re following. Mostly, we switch between Olive and Oscar without so much as an asterisk to spilt them up. The other POV characters are Fawn and Walter. Sometimes we do get a clear page break, but generally, one paragraph is Olive’s POV and the next directly after is Oscar’s. I don’t mind that, although it’s not the clearest it could be, but suddenly, for no reason, and for just one sentence, we are suddenly following Tamara’s point of view. She is not a POV character, and I did wonder if I’d misunderstood, but I’m not going mad, we definitely get Tamara’s thoughts from inside her head, that Oscar had no way of knowing. It’s a bit clumsy, is all.

Anyway, so we’re supposed to look down on Tamara for wearing a pink coat now. Why do the “mean girls” always wear pink? We’re not even told whether it’s a Wednesday. Tamara’s dialogue is vapid to the point of parody. She speaks in short, simple sentences, never more than a few words long, and usually in the form of demands. I want to give props to Carrie for writing a character who doesn’t speak in exactly the same way as Olive, but it feels so mean-spirited. During her conversation with Oscar, she actually says, in response to Oscar telling her that he likes Olive: “You like me!” That’s the whole of her answer. Like an elementary school playground. Soon after, like the sexy mistress in a bad movie, she tells Oscar “You can kiss her and me.” As if Tamara would be okay with that after all her huffing and puffing over Oscar and Olive being together! It’s well established that she wants Oscar to herself. Her lack of morals here and willingness to be “the other woman” is just part of her cartoony characterisation.

So, for absolutely no reason other than to serve the narrative and to give Oscar a big realisation that he’s already had about twelve times, Tamara asks Oscar how he would feel if he saw Olive kiss someone else. This makes him realise wow, he actually would be gutted because he totally wuvs Olive so much. Again. So Oscar tells Tamara he wants Olive, and lo and behold, Olive was listening to the whole thing. Surely now, in this simplistic story structure, Olive should also have had this big realisation too that Oscar really does like her more than Tamara, and they should be skipping happily into the sunset? Nah. More contrived arguments. And they go on for sooooooooooo long. The rest of the chapter, in fact, is just one long conversation between Olive and Oscar. Oscar uses his get-out-of-jail-free card and says that he **technically** didn’t do anything wrong as they weren’t together, and in fairness, Olive is rightly pissed off. The scene reads almost like a script; loads of dialogue with little interludes of description. I would say that this is meant to symbolise a play within a play, but I’m not giving it that much credit. The upshot is, nothing has changed and the kiss with Tamara might as well have not happened, because these idiots are back where they started. They’re not on and not off, they still have feeling for each other, but they’re giving it a cooling off period before they try and define their relationship again.

So my question is WHAT WAS THE POINT? WHAT WAS THE POINT OF ANY OF THIS I WANT MY TIME BACK

I’ve calmed down.

Olive’s male friends in the cast offer to beat Oscar up for hurting her. Friends do make these jokey kinds of threats after a breakup-I know I have-but Olive’s reaction is weird. She says “Now, now boys.” to them, like she’s their fifty-year-old teacher and they’re kids in her class. It’s just so patronising. So…Olive. Oh, and Howard (one of the male friends. I’ve not mentioned him before now and you’ve not noticed him missing because he is basically Doug #2 with less personality) says “You’re a saint, Olive Green. A bloody saint.”. I’ve avoided saying Olive is literally Carrie before now, because I don’t think that’s fair, but this is Carrie as a writer calling her self-insert character (aka herself) a saint. Make what you will of that.

Anyway, it’s opening night and everyone’s excited. Oscar is miserable and staying pretty isolated from the rest of the cast, which is understandable, but they all rally around Olive because she is so lovely and special and perfect. Sammy (the dancer in the show that Jane and Tamora called a whale) hangs out in Olive’s dressing room to prove that she is capable of having female friends. It’s the first time I think in the whole book that Olive has interacted with a woman in a non-combative way. I’m going to talk about Sammy in a minute, but for now, just know that the conversation they have doesn’t pass the Bechdel test as it’s just a re-run of Olive’s convo with the boys earlier where they jokingly threaten Olive, mixed in with “you’re the nicest person in the world, Olive” and “give him another chance, because the rest of the cast have nothing better to do than speculate about your love lives!” That’s barely an exaggeration. It’s pretty much what she says.

After dinner, Olive introduces her friends to Walter. I’m a bit confused as to how none of them but Olive have met him before, as he’s always around the theatre. It did feel a little bit like “look at superstar Olive deigning to talk to the little people backstage, isn’t she a saint?” Anyway, it’s established again that the whole theatre has dodgy electrics, presumably because Fawn likes to mess with them. Olive has a present at stage door for her-two dozen roses, which she thinks must be from her agent (no prizes for guessing who really sent them).

But before we find out who the sender is, we get ANOTHER repeat of the let’s-kill-Oscar-but-give-him-another-chance conversation. This is our THIRD IN ONE CHAPTER. This time, it’s from Howard. I did want to give some credit where credit is due when it comes to this character. Carrie manages to introduce that Howard is gay without her usual “This is Howard. He is gay.”, which I respected. Props. If Carrie managed to flesh out all of her characters that subtly and well, I’d be writing a different review. But their conversation is just more of the same, really, with Howard’s take being “take him back but make him sweat”.

So Olive gets back to her dressing room, and find out to no one’s shock but hers that the roses are from Oscar, with a note asking her to meet him when the curtain falls (roll credits), just like Fawn and Walter did. At that moment, all the bulbs in Olive’s room burst, presumably courtesy of Fawn, who was probably rattled by the phrasing of the note. For some reason, Olive calls for a man to save her from the burst bulb, specifically Howard, but Oscar shows up. There’s another confusing change in point of view so vague I can’t actually pinpoint where we stop following Olive and start following Oscar.

A quick word about Sammy. Now, I like Sammy; I remember liking her the first time around too. Carrie writes her quite clumsily as “sassy”-basically, she says “honey” and “gurrl” a lot, but I appreciate the attempt. Here’s my hot take-Sammy should have been the protagonist. She’s a member of the ensemble, much more relatable than a leading lady, and her point of view wouldn’t have come down from a pedestal as a result. We could have got the Oscar/Olive drama through her if we really wanted, as she’s Olive’s friend, but she has a little lovestory herself with Doug that’s much more endearing (at this point in the book, we know they fancy each other, though they both rather sweetly deny it). She is bullied by Tamara and Jane, but stands up for herself. It’s implied that she’s a bigger woman (we don’t know how much bigger), trying to make it in theatre. We could have watched her overcoming the comments about her body and her insecurities in a brutal industry to find love with Doug, work hard, and have a wonderful career onstage. I want that book. Someone tell Carrie I’ve written her a sequel, hahaha.

The opening night show is about to begin! Carrie writes Olive’s excitement and nerves pretty well, as I’m sure she’s writing from experiences. This chapter starts with a few nudge-nudge wink-wink innuendos, which is fine I guess, but this is the first time in the book we’re seeing this, and Doug even says it’s out of character coming from Olive. It does feel disjointed. Still no straight answer as to whether there’s anything going on between Doug and Sammy, but I’m just glad there’s a universe outside of the two Os. After the show, everyone tells Oscar to get back with Olive. It’s basically round four of the same conversation, but this time to Oscar.

But wait, something weird is happening backstage! Olive’s clothes have gone missing-and so have Jane’s pearls (this was actually some clever foreshadowing so props)! Oscar and Olive go on a scavenger hunt to find her clothes, which we find out were stolen by g-g-g-ghosts! Oscar climbs a ladder by himself to retrieve her dress from the rafters, while SPEAKING OUT LOUD TO HIMSELF (oh thank goodness, I thought we’d moved on from that) about how ghosts don’t exist. Right on cue, a disembodied voice whispers “Osssssccccaaaaarrrrrr” and he understandably craps himself. Carrie actually writes this scene pretty well, so props. Fawn’s ghost then “puts on” the dress and communicates to him that Olive is in danger, and he needs Walter to help them. I don’t know why she needed to steal and put on the dress to do this, but I’m quite enjoying the scene, so I’ll let it happen. Fawn finishes with “HE’S COMING FOR HER” which is quite chilling. Again, props, it’s genuinely spooky. Maybe Carrie should start writing ghost stories full time instead of “magic realism”...

It’s the afterparty and the director tells Olive how well she did, which is fine, and maybe the first time in the book that someone is praising her with a reason to do so. Olive and Oscar talk about their relationship and Olive actually says “Everyone’s rooting for us”, as if the rest of the cast have nothing better to do except sit around and talk about their relationship. Which, as we know from Sammy, Doug, and Howard, they don’t. Olive is stull upset that their relationship is undefined and Oscar doesn’t want to commit, which is fair. Again, it’s a load of talking in circles, page after page of pretty much just dialogue, then they kiss.

But OH MY GOD FINALLY SOMETHING HAPPENS. It’s a horrible something, but a something none the less. So Doug has been crushed by a falling light-or light-rig, it’s not very clear. Anyway, point is, he’s been crushed, and Oscar quickly figures out from his experience that a ghost is to blame. The first time I read this, I thought he was dead, not in the least because Carrie constantly describes the scene as “Doug’s body”, which usually indicates that someone is dead, you know. But he’s still kicking, if grievously injured, and he might lose his arm. It’s absolutely terrible, especially for such a nice character, but sadly we don’t know him any better than knowing that he lives to praise Olive, so sadly there’s not much attachment. Now, there’s the climax for the Sammy story! Doug and Sammy working through the injury together and rebuilding their life and career, overcoming set-backs and coming out stronger. You know, like real people have to. Not the charmed lives of Octopus and Orangutan, neither of whom suffer ANY real setbacks in the book.

Anyway, Tamara jumps ship instantly, but Jane get a little bit of a redemption arc and calls the ambulance. It would have been lovely to see Tamara coming together with Olive to help, even though none of them can do very much-even the two of them sharing a little moment would have been great. I can’t hate Tamara too much for jumping ship-even though it’s not what I or other people would do, no one knows how they’d react in an emergency, even though the book demonises her for it.

However, I do have three big issues with the scene.

  • It’s happened so quickly; despite it being the most dramatic thing to happen so far, it’s not given anything like the amount of words that Oscar and Olive’s stupid arguments are given. I’m not sure if Carrie just wanted to play down the gore, which is fine as I imagine most of her readers are young, but honestly it just feels like this potentially-career-ending injury for Doug isn’t anything like as important as these two idiots whining.
  • When Fawn warned Oscar that Olive was in danger, she couldn’t have done a real solid and warned him about Doug too? Or was Doug just canon fodder? Chopped liver? Guess so…he’s not special like Olive so he doesn’t get guardian theatre angels. We find out that the ghost who hurt Doug thought he was someone else, which I guess could explain it, but still.
  • We never find out whether Doug was okay. This book gets an epilogue and everything (WHICH I HAVE THOUGHTS ABOUT I’LL SHARE DOWN THE LINE), but not a word about poor Doug. Did he lose his arm? Did he work again? How much money did the production lose in the lawsuit? I guess it was an act of god, I mean ghost, but still. But STILL.
 
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I know i'm a little late in posting about this, but I work in the theatre industry and I was so dissapointed (but not surprised) at her World Theatre Day IG post.

I have colleagues in the industry who have lost their homes, who have health conditions but had to work in supermarkets because they don't qualify for income support but have children. Who have had to pivot their careers and completely changed their lives in a year. Who have lost their lives to Covid, or lost family members, or being absent for significant life events in their family.

But no, she had to just post a picture of herself because that's all she cares about, and just wants all the attention on herself
 
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This is perfect, love all of it! Hilarious.
Some people who read the book have said it seems similar to what (might have) happened between Carrie and Oliver (and other women in the cast) during The Addams Family. I know it's impossible to know what's based on her life and what isn't, but do you feel like some of it could be based/inspired by that?
 
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What do you mean, Carrie is the short of person that will get jealous if her friends get more success than her. Lol she likes it that she more well known
 
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I agree I don’t think this one example is too major, but it’s an indication of something I’ve noticed a lot. What struck me about it, and brought me to post it on here, is that it’s also just another hint at her isolation even within her own industry, at least publicly. Rather how isolated she’s becoming. Just compare her involvement in West End Does to the little she did in lockdown, she turned down/ignored a leave the light on concert with the theatre cafe and she was part of only one of the compilation videos of performers singing songs from home, and never did the drive through s or anything like that which Oliver did even when he would have been under contract, or at very least waiting to hear from, Disney for frozen. Even the thing she did do was a halloween skit/song for west end does Halloween and one episode with the Theatre Cafe. Yes, it could all be contractual with Cinderella, and she did have her daily videos (and I’m by no means saying she should have taken someone’s spot who needed the pay, but most of these the performers weren’t paid from what I could tell) but it got to a point where it was very obvious that she was a name that was missing. This is just another example of that, most of these girls have been in Six but not all of them, and she was apparently so so close to Sophie. Even with Cinderella she doesn’t exactly seem integrated in the industry beyond ALW himself and Ivo (apologies if I’ve got his name wrong) got the theatre industry focused gig (the BBC celebration of musicals) whereas she got solo stints on the One Show, Children in Need and All Star Musicals, big gigs yes but the relative separation has just seemed a little odd to me is all

Apologies for the long post, this was something I noticed a while ago so I just kept typing and this came out
 
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