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Thank you so much for saying that, you didn't have to, so you were very kind to do so! Welcome back.

So I've gone and started a chapter by chapter summary of When The Curtain Falls. This is the prologue to Chapter Five. There are twenty-one chapters, so I'll do the rest down the line at some point if there is any interest. I've put each chapter summary in a spoiler to avoid clogging up the timeline for those who aren't interested. I put some general points for the whole book in the prologue, so if you're not going to read any of the rest of it, that one alone will give you the gist. You can see my will to live declining chapter by chapter as I get more angry with the book, hahaha. Honestly, go and read Carrie's first two books, they're better, I promise.

In the prologue, we fittingly get an overture; the author waxes lyrical about the magic of theatre, and we are told that once a year at the Southern Cross Theatre, an old “stage door man” called Walter converses with the ghost of an actress through a mirror, before a vision of her onstage death is re-enacted. At the end of the prologue, Walter discovers via email that the production in which the actress (Fawn) died, “When The Curtain Falls”, is to be revived at the Southern Cross, sixty-six years later. Concerned, he asks Fawn to “play nice”, as she is in the habit of haunting and causing trouble backstage at the best of times. Walter then finds out who is playing Fawn’s role, Eliza, and says aloud to himself that new actress Olive Green might be sorry she ever agreed to the role.

There are good points to the prologue-it’s the book’s highlight. There is an admirable attempt at tension, which is very hard to write, and the mystery is fairly intriguing. Carrie’s passion for the theatre and storytelling definitely comes through, and I felt genuine sadness when Walter was ashamed of how old he had grown while ghostly Fawn is forever youthful, feeling he’d failed her.

However, small, easily addressable issues with Carrie’s writing begin to show from the start. The most prevalent is that all of her character sound the same-in short, they sound like Carrie. I’ve found this with all of her books (admittedly I’ve not read the latest two, so she might have improved)-every character sounds like Carrie in a different wig. It’s as if every single character in Friends said “How you doing?”. Her style of speaking, which is lovely coming from her-an articulate, slightly old-fashioned manner with plenty of metaphors, similes, and anecdotes-does not sound natural coming from every single character, regardless of background, personality, gender, and situation. Admittedly, there is an attempt at writing a different pattern of speech later for Toby, the stunt co-ordinator-he says things like “dunnit” (doesn’t it) and “bitta” (bit of), but that’s as far as it goes-it feels a bit cheap and forced, almost as if Toby himself is faking an accent like Dick van Dyke in Mary Poppins. All the characters simply have the same patterns and style of speaking (Carrie’s style) and it gets quite draining.

The other issue I find in the book as a whole that starts in the prologue is the unnatural, over-explanation. What I mean by that is unnatural dialogue being shoehorned in for the benefit of the audience to explain what’s going on instead of letting the audience discover things for ourselves. It’s almost as if some characters turn to the camera, like The Office, and say “This is this thing. It happens because of this thing. Got that? Good.” An excellent example of this happens in the prologue. In the email, straight after we see the ghostly re-enaction of the play’s climax and Fawn’s death, we are told that yes indeed “When The Curtain Falls” played at the Southern Cross before, and yes indeed, there was an accident, you got that? There was absolutely no need for the explanation-any child could have figured out the connection. Carrie would have done much better to have provided a shorter email saying that the revival is happening, and to let Walter’s reaction speak for itself. I know books need a certain degree of exposition, but if Carrie’s books were a little more subtle, they would be a hundred times better. There are countless examples of this through the book, and it’s a shame, because they really break your immersion into the world of the story.

Just two more quick points before I move on-I wanted to mention Walter speaking aloud to himself at the end of the prologue when Olive Green is named for the first time. Obviously the writer wanted to get Olive introduced in a dramatic way, but Walter isn’t the only character to talk aloud to himself about Olive when alone, and it is so unnatural. It could easily have been presented as thoughts in their heads, but no, they talk aloud to no one for the benefit of an invisible audience, and it’s very jarring. If I knew them, I’d be concerned for their wellbeing.

Lastly, I wanted to mention the nouns. Carrie has a habit of naming her characters and places in her books sickly sweet names, which is her prerogative, but honestly the naming in this novel for some reason annoyed me more than the others. The Southern Cross Theatre?! I seriously invite you to google the names of London theatres now, and see that, if the Southern Cross was real, one of these things would not be like the others. The only way I can make it work logically is if Carrie had invented a fictional place in London called Southern Cross, and the theatre was named after the location, but I don’t think we ever get such an explanation. Especially as the theatre is specifically on Shaftsbury Avenue. I wondered if it might mean “cross” as an allusion to a headstone shaped like a cross, because the theatre is haunted? But that’s the best I can do. Additionally in the prologue, the production company putting on “When The Curtain Falls” is called “Toastie Productions”. Toastie Productions?! I know production companies be naming themselves dumb things, but the only explanation I can think of for this is that Carrie must have been eating a toastie at the time. Again, this is a constant through the novel.

Chapter One-Enjoy

Prior to Chapter One, we get an entire page of a poster advertising “When The Curtain Falls” at the Southern Cross. Nothing wrong with this, it’s a good way to get exposition across, but it renders Walter’s email in the previous chapter, which gave details about the production including dates and times, even more redundant. I don’t mind that the production is by a “C.H. Fletcher”, I found it humorous, but make what you will of that. The issue I have with the poster is that Olive Green’s name is listed above Oscar Bright’s. Now, Oscar is the famous one, as we find out in Chapter Two, and presumably he’s the name putting butts on seats, so why is Olive’s name first? It isn’t even alphabetical. I don’t know if there’s some kind of theatre tradition where the leading lady is named first, but it just seems weird to me.

Oscar has “short black hair” and a “big toothy smile” so I’ll leave you to wonder who he might be inspired by. He and Olive are carrying out an illicit, secret affair, meeting at the “crack of dawn” (8:55) to avoid the prying eyes of the press and the rumour mill of the West End. Olive is concerned that Oscar is embarrassed to be with her, but he insists he isn’t, and that he’s just trying to avoid the press after a public breakup with a high-profile girlfriend called Zadie. If you ask me, that’s a Strallen name (Zizi, Scarlett, Summer, Sasi…you wouldn’t blink if Zadie was there too). In case you didn’t know, Oscar-I mean Oliver’s-ex is Summer. Anyway, you get the picture. Next, we’re treated to a LONG, and I mean long, monologue from the narrator, exalting Olive’s virtues which she never displays herself. It’s textbook telling, not showing. It’s all about how Olive is a lovely, special person whose career started with immediate ***leading-role*** success straight after drama school, and her only flaw is letting people take advantage of her. That’s a very Mary Sue kind of flaw, and not really a flaw in her but in everyone around her. At one point, someone tells her not to set herself on fire to keep others warm, which I’m sure Carrie has shared on Instagram before. If this is true, you can kind of see why Olive would be worried that Oscar might be taking advantage of her too, but this could have all been laid out much more gradually and subtly. They have breakfast together, and the world and their wife fancy Oscar, but he likes Olive because she’s so different to everyone else-she treats him like a human, because he is one. Revolutionary.

Remember how we got a long, awkward monologue introducing Olive? Round Two Electric Boogaloo for Oscar. He’s basically a soap star who quit to go onto bigger and better things, and lo and behold, it didn’t work out. I quite like this, actually-it feels realistic, and it brings him down a peg, which makes him easier to warm to. We delve into the past where Olive and Oscar first meet, along with the rest of the new cast for WTCF. Tamara, a girl in the ensemble with her eyes on Oscar, asks him who in the cast he would sleep with if held at gunpoint, which I might have suggested was foreshadowing (the weapon in the play is a gun) in any other book. I don’t think he gives a straight answer, but it’s an opportunity for Tamara and Jane (Olive’s first cover) to openly flirt with him. Meanwhile, for some unknown reason, Doug (Olive’s friend who lives to praise her) starts dancing with Olive, and whispers that he thinks Oscar fancies her. The cast then talks about theatre ghosts, and how every theatre has one, with varying degrees of scepticism, but the general consensus is that a wise actor (like Olive, obvs) is wary of theatre ghosts because if you piss them off they can make your life hell. Just as another general point, Olive estimates that they have “four to six minutes” before the director tells them off for chatting. A writer should never be that specific, it sounds dumb. Just say five minutes.

Anyway, the cast go out to a club, and Olive doesn’t want to be there because she’s too deep and cool for clubbing. The bartender happens to recognise her, by the way, because of course he does, her being the most special person ever to have lived, and gives her a free drink. Olive looks down on Jane and Tamara for pole dancing (sounds like fun!) and wearing “slinky dresses and high heels”, which she herself would never wear. So Olive and Oscar ditch the club and go back to Oscar’s flat. Oscar calls her “Miss Green” a lot, which made me cringe, tbh, it’s that weird, old-fashioned tone all the characters have. They make out, and honestly I skipped over most of description of these two eels thrashing around. I’m not a prude, just gay and tired of these idiots.

So the very first line of this chapter announces that Olive managed to buy a flat in London at twenty-two, which she complains about the size of sometimes, so others have to remind her how lucky she is to have it. I’m not going to say this was probably inspired by real events, make your own decisions. Olive has a little chat with herself in the kitchen, OUT LOUD, as I mentioned in the general points. It’s so jarring when she wonders “Does he like me?” etc aloud, when it could so easily be presented as thoughts in her head. Meanwhile, over in Bow, OSCAR IS DOING THE SAME THING. Sitting around alone, talking to himself “Olive Green…is there anything this girl can’t do?” He actually says that. I’ve never sat around talking aloud to myself. Maybe I’m the weird one after all.

So this is the chapter with the infamous coffee scene, where Olive, Oscar, and Jane go to grab coffee and Olive looks down on Jane, her first cover, for ordering some iced peppermint mocha frap. Granted it sounds pretty gross, but girl, you live your life and drink whatever you want. But this scene is so much more contrived than that. While Jane is in the loo, Oscar and Olive have a brief chat and again fail to define their relationship. I do think Oscar is being a bit annoying at this point, not wanting to give Olive a label so that if he wants to jump ship she can’t complain, but we’ve had so many of these will they/won’t they scenes already. In another contrived move, Oscar then goes to the loo, leaving Jane the perfect opportunity to be one-dimensionally bitchy to poor old flat-owning, lead-landing Olive. Jane witches that Oscar blew Olive a kiss and that Tamara is going to be “furious with you…making him blow you kisses”. She is such a cartoon villain, none of her dialogue is natural, and I actually feel quite sorry for her to be honest. And its Olive that makes me feel that way about the person we’re supposed to take her side over. Olive is so condescending towards her, treating her like a naughty child-she directly calls her childish in a previous chapter. Is it any wonder that Jane doesn’t like her? Granted Jane expecting Olive to pay for her drink is very presumptive and rude, but honestly, I don’t know a single person who would expect someone they’ve just met to pay for their expensive coffee order. Maybe I know disproportionally decent people, who knows. But the whole scene doesn’t happen organically and feels forced and contrived.

Later in the chapter, for the first time, Oscar really pisses me off, telling Olive that they were right to be rude to Jane because “she’s young and never going to learn she can’t always get what she wants if people don’t teach her.” It’s SO PATRONISING. Urgh. That’s my verdict on this chapter: Urgh.

Oscar says he chooses Olive, while still being a commitment-phobe, and Olive references Pokemon in a very Carrie way.

Oscar gets acquainted with his onstage gun, and forcedly working-class Toby the stunt co-ordinator (Dick van Dyke guy I mentioned in the general points) gives him a run-down of the ghost story. Honestly, the way Toby calls the director “big boss man” really put the ick in me for some reason. This is yet another explanation of the story that was laid out pretty plainly for us in the prologue, and it’s fairly unnecessary. Fawn Burrows was shot sixty-odd years ago because some idiots used a real gun during a production of WTCF-we get it. It’s hinted that it might not have been an accident-we know.

A mercifully short chapter ends with a comment about guns looking safe when they’re not in the hands of fools. I think it’s supposed to be profound, but I would argue that guns always look FREAKING TERRIFYING. Maybe because in my country there is strict control so I haven’t ever actually seen one in the flesh, but I think they look very sinister. Anyway, I’m not here to get political, I’m here to summarise.


The show is almost upon us. Tamara and Jane are bitchy to another dancer called Sam because she’s a little bigger than them. Carrie actually describes her pretty nicely, “thick thighs and strong arms…the way she moved was second to none”, but obviously not-skinny Sam isn’t perceived as a threat by Olive, so we’re allowed to like her. But obviously cartoon villains J and T call her a whale, so Sam shows herself to be yet another Carrie with another wig, doing an over-the-top gotcha! comeback which feels like the kind of thing you think of later and wish you’d have said at the time. It’s a bit of wish-fulfilment, I think.

Anyway, Oscar says “leave the girls to it, if they want to fight, let them fight without encouragement from us (the guys)”. Which just feels patronising again with a little sexism thrown in on top! I’m starting to really hate Oscar and his sanctimonious displays. He and Olive deserve each other.

The technical rehearsal gets underway, and it’s stressful because I hear they always are. The cast are quite convincingly worried that they won’t be ready to open in time, which I can imagine would be the case for many shows. I enjoyed the image of the stressed director pulling his hair in all directions-me doing my degree, lol.

But then, we get an extract of the play script itself. I’m not sure why Carrie included it, but fair dos, it’s basically creating more work for herself, so fair enough. Unfortunately, there is no change of tone between the novel and the script-they feel as if they’re being written by the same person. I’ve not read many scripts in my time, but from memories of studying them at school, I don’t think stage directions tend to last more than a page?? There’s more than an ENTIRE PAGE of stage directions alone-really specific stage directions at that. I think this is Carrie helping us as readers to understand exactly what would happen if we were watching the play, but we’re supposed to be just reading the script. Carrie should have taken a break from the script after the dialogue, described what the actors were doing onstage as a narrator, then gone back into the dialogue of the play.

Olive meets Walter. He is friendly, if a little odd. However, when Olive goes back to the stage, he does my FAVOURITE THING in this book and TALKS ALOUD TO HIMSELF. He basically shakes his fist at the sky and moans “Why did they have to cast someone who looks so much like Fawn!” Just to drive the parallel home even more.

Olive and Oscar make plans to see each other, but Olive is adamant that it can’t just be about sex, which is fair, tbh, if that’s what she wants. I have to say, the amount of times the word “sex” is said in this scene is a little jarring-like, look at me in my adult book with characters who have SEX! Although in fairness, I much prefer the word “sex” to cringey metaphors about it. We find out that Olive once had a thing with her leading man in Little Shop of Horrors, and it ended with the guy two-timing her with another actress (being a “starfucker”, shagging his way to the top). The other actress is called Rosanna Lime, by the way. It’s my least favourite name so far.

Oscar gets recognised by a schoolgirl on the tube, and Olive looks down on her for her short skirt and high heels. The teenager says “my mates are gonna be well jel”. I quite enjoyed the attempt at teenage dialogue, as it did make a change, but was also an adult trying to emulate teenage speech rather than actual teenage speech, if that makes sense? It was very “how do you do, fellow kids?” Carrie also uses this chapter to explain that actors are paid the same no matter how many tickets are sold, and that Oscar being stunt-cast doesn’t matter because there’s no way he’d have been cast if he wasn’t actually good. These are both fair enough to be honest, but again, it just felt like Carrie talking.

Back at Oscar’s flat, Olive calls a gin a Ginny Weasley, which again just sounds like Carrie. There is no characterisation here. They sleep together, but oh no, a picture of them kissing in public has gone viral on Twitter. A soap actor kissing an unknown stage actress? Front page news, I should think. Whatever will they do?
Wait wait wait wait

Her main character is literally called Olive Green

Did she come up with that when painting a wall or something? Christ.
 
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@agirlofnoimportance thank you so much for your great rundown! I’m so entertained and now at the edge of my seat waiting for your take on the next chapters. Don’t think I would be this way if I had to read it myself lol

I will offer to pay you double of what you paid to buy the book yourself but I suspect the therapy that you might need afterwards could cost a whole lot more. 😅
 
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Every time she replies calmly I'm thinking she sent a question to herself. Because surely, if you claim to be a fan, or know her to the point you're following her on IG, you would know that she's not in those shows anymore.
to be fair, I think she’s answered that question so many times, she just has a default answer to it.
It tells you how young or possibly stupid her fans are to think she is going to be in the tours of Addams or Heathers when she’s been going on about Cinderella for 2 years!
 
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Looks like Jodie Sam Steele, Sophie Issacs, Jenny O’Leary (both in Heathers) and Courtney Bowman, and Millie O’Connell (Six, Anne Boleyn) all have the same announcement coming tomorrow so they’re involved in something... I haven’t seen who else is involved but why I wanted to post about it here is that all of their teasing posts are bright pink with Princesses Unite on them so I’m imagining Carrie is seething that not only is she not involved in something Jodie and Sophie are doing but also that there’ll also be connected to Princesses when she’s got to advertise Cinderella as this not like other girls, not a Disney Princess but won’t drop the Disney Princess connection, character 😂
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Looks like the ladies have been busy!
 
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Oh boy, with this and the Camilla Cabello "Cinderella" movie coming, all the Covid delays really did ALW dirty.
Same pink colour! And from the picture it looks like the princesses are going to be modern, sassy, a bit like Carrie's. I guess the difference is the method of performance.
 
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Yikes! That is a bit of a disaster for ALW! I can just imagine him fuming away in his little tory mancave, spitting venom.
 
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I'm a bit confused, because I've heard of Disenchanted, but it isn't usually pink — this is the 'normal' poster.

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Well, not confused, they've obviously decided on a change. But I'd say it was a very "non hot pink" musical! It's clever but a bit too mocking/hard for me. The soundtrack is on Apple music if you want to give it a go.

It reminds me most of SIX, Something Rotten and Avenue Q. Sort of parody/pastiche-ish.
 
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About her latest IG story: Not to bash her fans, but.... They bought tickets to the current productions of The Addams Family and Heathers, thinking she'd still be in those shows?? How...? I don't understand this. I think she handled the explanation of it really well, for once. She's not belittling them, just explaining to those who said they were excited to see her that she isn't in those shows anymore. Hope she continues to reply in this calm, unsnarky way.
Came to post the exact same thing. Sometimes I wonder why these people get so jaded, and then see the dumb questions they have to put up with constantly...
I’m sure her the fans that get confused are probably young and don’t understand how theatre works, but cmon
 
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Interesting how she's not said anything about it considering she was really "close" to Sophie at one point...

With this and frozen... Oh dear.... Carrie will not be impressed.
 
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I mean, isn’t that an online broadcast for only 3 days next month? I don’t see a reason why they should feel annoyed or threatened. Unless they get enough support to make it a west end musical.
 
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I mean, isn’t that an online broadcast for only 3 days next month? I don’t see a reason why they should feel annoyed or threatened. Unless they get enough support to make it a west end musical.
I agree, and even if it would go to the west end, don't really think Carrie gets jealous/annoyed at the gigs her friends/aquiantances/boyfriend get. I mean, she has her faults, but I never got the sense she would get bitter about that sort of thing. Just my two cents
 
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So here are the next few chapters, up to halfway through the book. I'll try and get the rest of the chapters up soon, studying and socials permitting, but I have to say I'm enjoying this book summary business, and I hope others are too! Again, all the chapters are in spoilers so as to not clog up the feed. Honestly, I don't think Carrie is the worst writer in the world, but she needs, as someone said on here, a harsher editor. Here we go!

So Oscar is doing “damage control” after the viral photo. Zadie, the ex, has retweeted it, and Oscar calls her “my crazy ex”, so that’s nice and not misogynistic phrasing at all. Olive has had to delete her own twitter due to death threats, which is horrible, and the first time in the book I genuinely feel for her. There’s some good stuff in this chapter about their relationship remaining undefined, and Olive not wanting to be a dirty little secret, but it’s just too long-winded and needed editing down.

Carrie also makes much better usage of the extracts of play script in this chapter, using them as an aide to the narration rather than replacing the narration with the script. I think this is the effect she wanted in the previous chapter with the playscript, and I actually quite enjoyed it. Props.

But soon, the two Os are back on their bullshit. Olive clashes with the director over his vision (he thinks her character should cry at one point and she disagrees) and she actually calls him “stupid” for it, which brings me onto another point. I don’t know much about how theatres work, but everyone in the cast and crew are still technically work colleagues, right? And yet they all treat each other with such unprofessionalism. If someone in an office treated other people the way these characters treat each other, I’m pretty sure they’d be up before HR. Maybe theatre is different, but it seems really odd to me. Anyway, Olive announces that once the director is gone and the run has begun she’s just going to do whatever she wants anyway, which seems to defeat the point of having a director???

Anyway, so basically the second half of the chapter is Tamara inviting Oscar out for a drink, him refusing her, only to get into a contrived argument with Olive where she tells him sarcastically to go and get off with Tamara if that’s what he wants. So guess what? He totally goes and does it.

Olive is crying in her dressing room and gets a spook when one of the lightbulbs mysteriously bursts. I’m glad the ghost plot is returning, it’s what I bought my ticket for. Anyway, she exits the theatre and comes upon a local pub, outside which Doug grabs her and tries to lead her away so she won’t see what’s going on inside. There must have been a time jump between Oscar’s argument with Olive and now, but you’re a smarter person than me if you can find clear evidence for this in the text-I had to kind of guess, because now the rest of the cast are in the pub and roaring drunk. In the time it’s taken Olive to have a cry and take off her makeup, they’re absolutely bladdered. The cast of WTCF must be the biggest lightweight drinkers in the world. Confused? Me too. Anyway…

Olive looks through the window of the pub to see Oscar getting off with Tamara. Despite him displaying no interest in her before then, despite twin idiots O and O being clearly in love…it feels so forced. The romantic tussle is described thusly: Oscar “tried to wrap his arms around Tamara’s tall and bony frame, as though he didn’t know how to hold someone who didn’t fit so well in his embrace.” Alright, so Tamara’s weight is the only significant thing about her again. Later in the chapter, Olive moans that Oscar always gets off with women like Tamara instead of women like her, so why would he have a problem holding her? If you feel like this chapter has escalated quickly, you’d be right.

O1 and O2 have a confrontation in the street, where Olive reveals she’s got a lot of insecurity about how she looks, compared to how people like Tamara look, in the fight for Oscar’s affections. Even though it’s well-established that Olive is very beautiful, even looking just like classic beauty Fawn, who we’ll meet in a minute. It’s all about looks, and “skinny” equals being a shallow witch. Olive also whines that she’s special and not like other girls because she talks about more than Love Island and celebrities. Right, because only Olive is a complex person with many interests and all other women are exactly the same. Gah. Sorry, this just annoys me.

In a cheesy moment, the minute Orange and Onion announce that their relationship is over, the lights outside the theatre burst and go out. Just like in the dressing room. Oooh. The end. I wish. We’re not even halfway through this book.

At the end of the chapter, we meet Walter again. He is one of the better written characters, and comes across well as a nice old man haunted by the past. To his surprise, despite her usually appearing only once a year, he sees Fawn’s ghost again. It’s quite an emotional scene, but when Walter asks what Fawn’s doing there, she retorts “well I don’t know the rules!” and it sounds jarringly comic in an otherwise serious scene. Not sure if it was meant to make me laugh, but I laughed.

We are met with another theatre poster, advertising the 1952 production of WTCF. Again, it’s a good use of the poster to establish the time shift. Props. The next few chapters are all set in the past, and in my humble opinion, the quality does improve. Carrie’s old-fashioned tone suits these characters much more than the modern ones, and I can feel that she enjoyed writing these sections. They’re by no means perfect, and the bit that pissed me off most in the whole book (don’t worry, I’ll put a CW before I discuss the sexual assault at any time) happens in the past, but otherwise I liked them much more. Seriously, props.

Remember how we got long clunky introductions for Ox and Ostrich, telling rather than showing? Welcome to rounds three and four for Walter and Fawn respectively. However, I like the description of streetwise young Walter. Still, the description of Walter growing up during the war does read a little bit like an elementary school World War Two project, listing of who participated in the war, evacuation of children, the Blitz, eating a lot of Spam, etc. It’s not bad, necessarily, but it’s a bit childlike, like, “Here’s everything my teacher wrote on the whiteboard! Top marks for me!” I hope you get the picture. It just could all have benefitted from being a little more subtle.

Walter works hard before he gets his job in theatre, which is admirable, if a little long-winded. As another general point, I’ve noticed that EVERY SINGLE older male character, in the past and present, refers to any younger male as “Boy”. I know some people do that, but everyone? And they do it a LOT. It just feels odd, like they all somehow have the same voice and speech patterns (which I’ve already discussed at length).

We meet the producer of WTCF, Hamish Boatwright, who is a piece of tit. The strong language is necessary, as you’ll find out. He is instantly established as a perv, creeping on the young leading lady Fawn Burrows. Walter, who is being trained as a stage door guy in the theatre, catches her eye by being the only man in the entire universe who isn’t a creep. I mean, fair enough.

We get a long description of Walter’s duties as a stage door guy, and it’s a good example of too much inconsequential detail in this book working both for and against the narrative. It’s good because it builds up a good picture, but the writing can become clunky and a bit pointless.

Lenny, Walter’s superior, is described as having a face like a strawberry. I enjoyed that image-I can picture that. But the thing about Lenny is that he’s VERY precious and defensive about theatre as a profession. I don’t know if all theatre people are like that, but it seems a bit extreme, and just feels like an excuse for Carrie to get on a soap box.

Hamish comes back and unsubtly flexes his authority for the second time in as many chapters. He’s a much more worthy villain than Tamara or Jane, but he’s still a cartoon villain-the kind who twirls his moustache and ties women to train tracks. Meanwhile, parallel to Oar and Orchid in the present, Walter and Fawn fall in love and have to hide it from the world. They’re much more likable than their modern counterparts, and I’m much more invested in them despite having only known them for a chapter.

*Trumpet fanfare, ceremonial flag waving* Time for Fawn’s intro. She’s a proto-feminist, which I can get behind. Again, I generally enjoyed her character description. We find out that Fawn is the Oscar of the couple-her role in WTCF was bought for her by her wealthy father, and producer Hamish instantly started creeping on her. It’s horrible, but props to Carrie for writing a character who physically makes your skin crawl-that’s an achievement. Fawn goes on to compare him to a character from specifically Disney’s Pinocchio, which takes us out of the moment and reminds us that we are indeed reading a book written by Carrie.

The description of Eddie the stage manager at the beginning of the chapter is a perfect example of where Carrie could easily improve her writing with only a little tweaking. He is instantly introduced to us as "young but experienced" in the same sentence as we find out his name. It would have been better if Carrie had initially described him as young, then we could have found out how experienced he was down the line through his actions. Anyway, it’s the last dress rehearsal, and Fawn is determined to prove that she wasn’t just cast because of who she is but because of her talent (even though she was, and Hamish even says it doesn’t matter how well she acts because she is pretty and paid for). But you show them, girl. I can’t hate Fawn.

CW-physical violence against a woman. I haven't gone into detail, but just in case

Hang on, I'm confused. There's a bit where Carrie's describing the dress rehearsal and something goes wrong where Hamish slips on Fawn's dress on stage. Is Hamish the producer or an actor??? Anyway, Hamish hates the rehearsal and slaps Fawn. It's horrible, but again, props to Carrie for writing a convincingly horrible scene. When the curtain falls on opening night (ah! Roll credits!), Walter and Fawn go to meetup secretly in the theatre like Ohio and Oklahoma in the present, and there's a bit of clumsy foreshadowing where they warn each other not to lean over the rafters too far or one of them might become a theatre ghost. The chapter ends with Hamish making Fawn go to an after party with an “I made you, I’ll break you!” which is sinister when you know what happens but cartoony if you don’t. In the next chapter, we're back in the present. Halfway through the book now and my will to live is at much less than fifty per cent, so let's see how this goes.
So here are the next few! There are less chapters in this post just because it makes sense with the story-these chapters are set in the present, and the next few are in the past, so I'll do them all together in the next post. I'm so glad so many of you are enjoying reading these and I really appreciate the kind words! I'm just having fun (well, sort of fun) but thank you for taking the time to write them! These next few chapters are some of my least favourite in the book, so please, enjoy :)

@DietGossip-Yes, she's called Olive Green! Seriously. I wasn't going to dignify her name with a comment on it lol. Carrie's names are usually like this; there's a character in On The Other Side called Sonny Shine, so after that, Olive Green sounds almost normal.

The first thing you need to know about Chapter Twelve is that, whatever it is is, it isn’t worth it. It wins the prize for the chapter I’ve hated the most so far; I haven’t been this angry since Olive’s “Not Like Other Girls” rant. I’ve returned to the Os real names for clarity but know that I’m saying them with the same distain as I said Orange and Onion. The whole chapter is just 1) Olive walks the last ten feet towards the theatre and sees Oscar 2) Oscar tell Tamara he’s not interested in her 3) Olive and Oscar have a chat in Olive’s dressing room which resolves nothing. That is well and truly it. Nothing in the plot moves forward, we don’t hear anything about the show, it’s just all Oscar-loves-Olive-not-Tamara-but-can’t-get-it-together, like we’ve heard a hundred times before. A whole chapter of these idiots talking in circles. I don’t remember getting this vexed the first time around, but maybe reading it more analytically has opened my eyes to its true pointlessness.

The thing is, a lot of it isn’t even written particularly badly, and that’s what’s so frustrating. Olive’s interaction with the barrister felt genuine, her feelings come across well, and her situation is relatable. It’s just boring subject matter which certainly wasn’t due an entire chapter. Oh, and of course, Tamara is written with all the subtlety of a bull in a china shop. This is a good opportunity to mention another general point about Carrie’s writing in this book; the handling of which point of view we’re following. Mostly, we switch between Olive and Oscar without so much as an asterisk to spilt them up. The other POV characters are Fawn and Walter. Sometimes we do get a clear page break, but generally, one paragraph is Olive’s POV and the next directly after is Oscar’s. I don’t mind that, although it’s not the clearest it could be, but suddenly, for no reason, and for just one sentence, we are suddenly following Tamara’s point of view. She is not a POV character, and I did wonder if I’d misunderstood, but I’m not going mad, we definitely get Tamara’s thoughts from inside her head, that Oscar had no way of knowing. It’s a bit clumsy, is all.

Anyway, so we’re supposed to look down on Tamara for wearing a pink coat now. Why do the “mean girls” always wear pink? We’re not even told whether it’s a Wednesday. Tamara’s dialogue is vapid to the point of parody. She speaks in short, simple sentences, never more than a few words long, and usually in the form of demands. I want to give props to Carrie for writing a character who doesn’t speak in exactly the same way as Olive, but it feels so mean-spirited. During her conversation with Oscar, she actually says, in response to Oscar telling her that he likes Olive: “You like me!” That’s the whole of her answer. Like an elementary school playground. Soon after, like the sexy mistress in a bad movie, she tells Oscar “You can kiss her and me.” As if Tamara would be okay with that after all her huffing and puffing over Oscar and Olive being together! It’s well established that she wants Oscar to herself. Her lack of morals here and willingness to be “the other woman” is just part of her cartoony characterisation.

So, for absolutely no reason other than to serve the narrative and to give Oscar a big realisation that he’s already had about twelve times, Tamara asks Oscar how he would feel if he saw Olive kiss someone else. This makes him realise wow, he actually would be gutted because he totally wuvs Olive so much. Again. So Oscar tells Tamara he wants Olive, and lo and behold, Olive was listening to the whole thing. Surely now, in this simplistic story structure, Olive should also have had this big realisation too that Oscar really does like her more than Tamara, and they should be skipping happily into the sunset? Nah. More contrived arguments. And they go on for sooooooooooo long. The rest of the chapter, in fact, is just one long conversation between Olive and Oscar. Oscar uses his get-out-of-jail-free card and says that he **technically** didn’t do anything wrong as they weren’t together, and in fairness, Olive is rightly pissed off. The scene reads almost like a script; loads of dialogue with little interludes of description. I would say that this is meant to symbolise a play within a play, but I’m not giving it that much credit. The upshot is, nothing has changed and the kiss with Tamara might as well have not happened, because these idiots are back where they started. They’re not on and not off, they still have feeling for each other, but they’re giving it a cooling off period before they try and define their relationship again.

So my question is WHAT WAS THE POINT? WHAT WAS THE POINT OF ANY OF THIS I WANT MY TIME BACK

I’ve calmed down.

Olive’s male friends in the cast offer to beat Oscar up for hurting her. Friends do make these jokey kinds of threats after a breakup-I know I have-but Olive’s reaction is weird. She says “Now, now boys.” to them, like she’s their fifty-year-old teacher and they’re kids in her class. It’s just so patronising. So…Olive. Oh, and Howard (one of the male friends. I’ve not mentioned him before now and you’ve not noticed him missing because he is basically Doug #2 with less personality) says “You’re a saint, Olive Green. A bloody saint.”. I’ve avoided saying Olive is literally Carrie before now, because I don’t think that’s fair, but this is Carrie as a writer calling her self-insert character (aka herself) a saint. Make what you will of that.

Anyway, it’s opening night and everyone’s excited. Oscar is miserable and staying pretty isolated from the rest of the cast, which is understandable, but they all rally around Olive because she is so lovely and special and perfect. Sammy (the dancer in the show that Jane and Tamora called a whale) hangs out in Olive’s dressing room to prove that she is capable of having female friends. It’s the first time I think in the whole book that Olive has interacted with a woman in a non-combative way. I’m going to talk about Sammy in a minute, but for now, just know that the conversation they have doesn’t pass the Bechdel test as it’s just a re-run of Olive’s convo with the boys earlier where they jokingly threaten Olive, mixed in with “you’re the nicest person in the world, Olive” and “give him another chance, because the rest of the cast have nothing better to do than speculate about your love lives!” That’s barely an exaggeration. It’s pretty much what she says.

After dinner, Olive introduces her friends to Walter. I’m a bit confused as to how none of them but Olive have met him before, as he’s always around the theatre. It did feel a little bit like “look at superstar Olive deigning to talk to the little people backstage, isn’t she a saint?” Anyway, it’s established again that the whole theatre has dodgy electrics, presumably because Fawn likes to mess with them. Olive has a present at stage door for her-two dozen roses, which she thinks must be from her agent (no prizes for guessing who really sent them).

But before we find out who the sender is, we get ANOTHER repeat of the let’s-kill-Oscar-but-give-him-another-chance conversation. This is our THIRD IN ONE CHAPTER. This time, it’s from Howard. I did want to give some credit where credit is due when it comes to this character. Carrie manages to introduce that Howard is gay without her usual “This is Howard. He is gay.”, which I respected. Props. If Carrie managed to flesh out all of her characters that subtly and well, I’d be writing a different review. But their conversation is just more of the same, really, with Howard’s take being “take him back but make him sweat”.

So Olive gets back to her dressing room, and find out to no one’s shock but hers that the roses are from Oscar, with a note asking her to meet him when the curtain falls (roll credits), just like Fawn and Walter did. At that moment, all the bulbs in Olive’s room burst, presumably courtesy of Fawn, who was probably rattled by the phrasing of the note. For some reason, Olive calls for a man to save her from the burst bulb, specifically Howard, but Oscar shows up. There’s another confusing change in point of view so vague I can’t actually pinpoint where we stop following Olive and start following Oscar.

A quick word about Sammy. Now, I like Sammy; I remember liking her the first time around too. Carrie writes her quite clumsily as “sassy”-basically, she says “honey” and “gurrl” a lot, but I appreciate the attempt. Here’s my hot take-Sammy should have been the protagonist. She’s a member of the ensemble, much more relatable than a leading lady, and her point of view wouldn’t have come down from a pedestal as a result. We could have got the Oscar/Olive drama through her if we really wanted, as she’s Olive’s friend, but she has a little lovestory herself with Doug that’s much more endearing (at this point in the book, we know they fancy each other, though they both rather sweetly deny it). She is bullied by Tamara and Jane, but stands up for herself. It’s implied that she’s a bigger woman (we don’t know how much bigger), trying to make it in theatre. We could have watched her overcoming the comments about her body and her insecurities in a brutal industry to find love with Doug, work hard, and have a wonderful career onstage. I want that book. Someone tell Carrie I’ve written her a sequel, hahaha.

The opening night show is about to begin! Carrie writes Olive’s excitement and nerves pretty well, as I’m sure she’s writing from experiences. This chapter starts with a few nudge-nudge wink-wink innuendos, which is fine I guess, but this is the first time in the book we’re seeing this, and Doug even says it’s out of character coming from Olive. It does feel disjointed. Still no straight answer as to whether there’s anything going on between Doug and Sammy, but I’m just glad there’s a universe outside of the two Os. After the show, everyone tells Oscar to get back with Olive. It’s basically round four of the same conversation, but this time to Oscar.

But wait, something weird is happening backstage! Olive’s clothes have gone missing-and so have Jane’s pearls (this was actually some clever foreshadowing so props)! Oscar and Olive go on a scavenger hunt to find her clothes, which we find out were stolen by g-g-g-ghosts! Oscar climbs a ladder by himself to retrieve her dress from the rafters, while SPEAKING OUT LOUD TO HIMSELF (oh thank goodness, I thought we’d moved on from that) about how ghosts don’t exist. Right on cue, a disembodied voice whispers “Osssssccccaaaaarrrrrr” and he understandably craps himself. Carrie actually writes this scene pretty well, so props. Fawn’s ghost then “puts on” the dress and communicates to him that Olive is in danger, and he needs Walter to help them. I don’t know why she needed to steal and put on the dress to do this, but I’m quite enjoying the scene, so I’ll let it happen. Fawn finishes with “HE’S COMING FOR HER” which is quite chilling. Again, props, it’s genuinely spooky. Maybe Carrie should start writing ghost stories full time instead of “magic realism”...

It’s the afterparty and the director tells Olive how well she did, which is fine, and maybe the first time in the book that someone is praising her with a reason to do so. Olive and Oscar talk about their relationship and Olive actually says “Everyone’s rooting for us”, as if the rest of the cast have nothing better to do except sit around and talk about their relationship. Which, as we know from Sammy, Doug, and Howard, they don’t. Olive is stull upset that their relationship is undefined and Oscar doesn’t want to commit, which is fair. Again, it’s a load of talking in circles, page after page of pretty much just dialogue, then they kiss.

But OH MY GOD FINALLY SOMETHING HAPPENS. It’s a horrible something, but a something none the less. So Doug has been crushed by a falling light-or light-rig, it’s not very clear. Anyway, point is, he’s been crushed, and Oscar quickly figures out from his experience that a ghost is to blame. The first time I read this, I thought he was dead, not in the least because Carrie constantly describes the scene as “Doug’s body”, which usually indicates that someone is dead, you know. But he’s still kicking, if grievously injured, and he might lose his arm. It’s absolutely terrible, especially for such a nice character, but sadly we don’t know him any better than knowing that he lives to praise Olive, so sadly there’s not much attachment. Now, there’s the climax for the Sammy story! Doug and Sammy working through the injury together and rebuilding their life and career, overcoming set-backs and coming out stronger. You know, like real people have to. Not the charmed lives of Octopus and Orangutan, neither of whom suffer ANY real setbacks in the book.

Anyway, Tamara jumps ship instantly, but Jane get a little bit of a redemption arc and calls the ambulance. It would have been lovely to see Tamara coming together with Olive to help, even though none of them can do very much-even the two of them sharing a little moment would have been great. I can’t hate Tamara too much for jumping ship-even though it’s not what I or other people would do, no one knows how they’d react in an emergency, even though the book demonises her for it.

However, I do have three big issues with the scene.

  • It’s happened so quickly; despite it being the most dramatic thing to happen so far, it’s not given anything like the amount of words that Oscar and Olive’s stupid arguments are given. I’m not sure if Carrie just wanted to play down the gore, which is fine as I imagine most of her readers are young, but honestly it just feels like this potentially-career-ending injury for Doug isn’t anything like as important as these two idiots whining.
  • When Fawn warned Oscar that Olive was in danger, she couldn’t have done a real solid and warned him about Doug too? Or was Doug just canon fodder? Chopped liver? Guess so…he’s not special like Olive so he doesn’t get guardian theatre angels. We find out that the ghost who hurt Doug thought he was someone else, which I guess could explain it, but still.
  • We never find out whether Doug was okay. This book gets an epilogue and everything (WHICH I HAVE THOUGHTS ABOUT I’LL SHARE DOWN THE LINE), but not a word about poor Doug. Did he lose his arm? Did he work again? How much money did the production lose in the lawsuit? I guess it was an act of god, I mean ghost, but still. But STILL.
 
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I know i'm a little late in posting about this, but I work in the theatre industry and I was so dissapointed (but not surprised) at her World Theatre Day IG post.

I have colleagues in the industry who have lost their homes, who have health conditions but had to work in supermarkets because they don't qualify for income support but have children. Who have had to pivot their careers and completely changed their lives in a year. Who have lost their lives to Covid, or lost family members, or being absent for significant life events in their family.

But no, she had to just post a picture of herself because that's all she cares about, and just wants all the attention on herself
 
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So here are the next few! There are less chapters in this post just because it makes sense with the story-these chapters are set in the present, and the next few are in the past, so I'll do them all together in the next post. I'm so glad so many of you are enjoying reading these and I really appreciate the kind words! I'm just having fun (well, sort of fun) but thank you for taking the time to write them! These next few chapters are some of my least favourite in the book, so please, enjoy :)

@DietGossip-Yes, she's called Olive Green! Seriously. I wasn't going to dignify her name with a comment on it lol. Carrie's names are usually like this; there's a character in On The Other Side called Sonny Shine, so after that, Olive Green sounds almost normal.

The first thing you need to know about Chapter Twelve is that, whatever it is is, it isn’t worth it. It wins the prize for the chapter I’ve hated the most so far; I haven’t been this angry since Olive’s “Not Like Other Girls” rant. I’ve returned to the Os real names for clarity but know that I’m saying them with the same distain as I said Orange and Onion. The whole chapter is just 1) Olive walks the last ten feet towards the theatre and sees Oscar 2) Oscar tell Tamara he’s not interested in her 3) Olive and Oscar have a chat in Olive’s dressing room which resolves nothing. That is well and truly it. Nothing in the plot moves forward, we don’t hear anything about the show, it’s just all Oscar-loves-Olive-not-Tamara-but-can’t-get-it-together, like we’ve heard a hundred times before. A whole chapter of these idiots talking in circles. I don’t remember getting this vexed the first time around, but maybe reading it more analytically has opened my eyes to its true pointlessness.

The thing is, a lot of it isn’t even written particularly badly, and that’s what’s so frustrating. Olive’s interaction with the barrister felt genuine, her feelings come across well, and her situation is relatable. It’s just boring subject matter which certainly wasn’t due an entire chapter. Oh, and of course, Tamara is written with all the subtlety of a bull in a china shop. This is a good opportunity to mention another general point about Carrie’s writing in this book; the handling of which point of view we’re following. Mostly, we switch between Olive and Oscar without so much as an asterisk to spilt them up. The other POV characters are Fawn and Walter. Sometimes we do get a clear page break, but generally, one paragraph is Olive’s POV and the next directly after is Oscar’s. I don’t mind that, although it’s not the clearest it could be, but suddenly, for no reason, and for just one sentence, we are suddenly following Tamara’s point of view. She is not a POV character, and I did wonder if I’d misunderstood, but I’m not going mad, we definitely get Tamara’s thoughts from inside her head, that Oscar had no way of knowing. It’s a bit clumsy, is all.

Anyway, so we’re supposed to look down on Tamara for wearing a pink coat now. Why do the “mean girls” always wear pink? We’re not even told whether it’s a Wednesday. Tamara’s dialogue is vapid to the point of parody. She speaks in short, simple sentences, never more than a few words long, and usually in the form of demands. I want to give props to Carrie for writing a character who doesn’t speak in exactly the same way as Olive, but it feels so mean-spirited. During her conversation with Oscar, she actually says, in response to Oscar telling her that he likes Olive: “You like me!” That’s the whole of her answer. Like an elementary school playground. Soon after, like the sexy mistress in a bad movie, she tells Oscar “You can kiss her and me.” As if Tamara would be okay with that after all her huffing and puffing over Oscar and Olive being together! It’s well established that she wants Oscar to herself. Her lack of morals here and willingness to be “the other woman” is just part of her cartoony characterisation.

So, for absolutely no reason other than to serve the narrative and to give Oscar a big realisation that he’s already had about twelve times, Tamara asks Oscar how he would feel if he saw Olive kiss someone else. This makes him realise wow, he actually would be gutted because he totally wuvs Olive so much. Again. So Oscar tells Tamara he wants Olive, and lo and behold, Olive was listening to the whole thing. Surely now, in this simplistic story structure, Olive should also have had this big realisation too that Oscar really does like her more than Tamara, and they should be skipping happily into the sunset? Nah. More contrived arguments. And they go on for sooooooooooo long. The rest of the chapter, in fact, is just one long conversation between Olive and Oscar. Oscar uses his get-out-of-jail-free card and says that he **technically** didn’t do anything wrong as they weren’t together, and in fairness, Olive is rightly pissed off. The scene reads almost like a script; loads of dialogue with little interludes of description. I would say that this is meant to symbolise a play within a play, but I’m not giving it that much credit. The upshot is, nothing has changed and the kiss with Tamara might as well have not happened, because these idiots are back where they started. They’re not on and not off, they still have feeling for each other, but they’re giving it a cooling off period before they try and define their relationship again.

So my question is WHAT WAS THE POINT? WHAT WAS THE POINT OF ANY OF THIS I WANT MY TIME BACK

I’ve calmed down.

Olive’s male friends in the cast offer to beat Oscar up for hurting her. Friends do make these jokey kinds of threats after a breakup-I know I have-but Olive’s reaction is weird. She says “Now, now boys.” to them, like she’s their fifty-year-old teacher and they’re kids in her class. It’s just so patronising. So…Olive. Oh, and Howard (one of the male friends. I’ve not mentioned him before now and you’ve not noticed him missing because he is basically Doug #2 with less personality) says “You’re a saint, Olive Green. A bloody saint.”. I’ve avoided saying Olive is literally Carrie before now, because I don’t think that’s fair, but this is Carrie as a writer calling her self-insert character (aka herself) a saint. Make what you will of that.

Anyway, it’s opening night and everyone’s excited. Oscar is miserable and staying pretty isolated from the rest of the cast, which is understandable, but they all rally around Olive because she is so lovely and special and perfect. Sammy (the dancer in the show that Jane and Tamora called a whale) hangs out in Olive’s dressing room to prove that she is capable of having female friends. It’s the first time I think in the whole book that Olive has interacted with a woman in a non-combative way. I’m going to talk about Sammy in a minute, but for now, just know that the conversation they have doesn’t pass the Bechdel test as it’s just a re-run of Olive’s convo with the boys earlier where they jokingly threaten Olive, mixed in with “you’re the nicest person in the world, Olive” and “give him another chance, because the rest of the cast have nothing better to do than speculate about your love lives!” That’s barely an exaggeration. It’s pretty much what she says.

After dinner, Olive introduces her friends to Walter. I’m a bit confused as to how none of them but Olive have met him before, as he’s always around the theatre. It did feel a little bit like “look at superstar Olive deigning to talk to the little people backstage, isn’t she a saint?” Anyway, it’s established again that the whole theatre has dodgy electrics, presumably because Fawn likes to mess with them. Olive has a present at stage door for her-two dozen roses, which she thinks must be from her agent (no prizes for guessing who really sent them).

But before we find out who the sender is, we get ANOTHER repeat of the let’s-kill-Oscar-but-give-him-another-chance conversation. This is our THIRD IN ONE CHAPTER. This time, it’s from Howard. I did want to give some credit where credit is due when it comes to this character. Carrie manages to introduce that Howard is gay without her usual “This is Howard. He is gay.”, which I respected. Props. If Carrie managed to flesh out all of her characters that subtly and well, I’d be writing a different review. But their conversation is just more of the same, really, with Howard’s take being “take him back but make him sweat”.

So Olive gets back to her dressing room, and find out to no one’s shock but hers that the roses are from Oscar, with a note asking her to meet him when the curtain falls (roll credits), just like Fawn and Walter did. At that moment, all the bulbs in Olive’s room burst, presumably courtesy of Fawn, who was probably rattled by the phrasing of the note. For some reason, Olive calls for a man to save her from the burst bulb, specifically Howard, but Oscar shows up. There’s another confusing change in point of view so vague I can’t actually pinpoint where we stop following Olive and start following Oscar.

A quick word about Sammy. Now, I like Sammy; I remember liking her the first time around too. Carrie writes her quite clumsily as “sassy”-basically, she says “honey” and “gurrl” a lot, but I appreciate the attempt. Here’s my hot take-Sammy should have been the protagonist. She’s a member of the ensemble, much more relatable than a leading lady, and her point of view wouldn’t have come down from a pedestal as a result. We could have got the Oscar/Olive drama through her if we really wanted, as she’s Olive’s friend, but she has a little lovestory herself with Doug that’s much more endearing (at this point in the book, we know they fancy each other, though they both rather sweetly deny it). She is bullied by Tamara and Jane, but stands up for herself. It’s implied that she’s a bigger woman (we don’t know how much bigger), trying to make it in theatre. We could have watched her overcoming the comments about her body and her insecurities in a brutal industry to find love with Doug, work hard, and have a wonderful career onstage. I want that book. Someone tell Carrie I’ve written her a sequel, hahaha.

The opening night show is about to begin! Carrie writes Olive’s excitement and nerves pretty well, as I’m sure she’s writing from experiences. This chapter starts with a few nudge-nudge wink-wink innuendos, which is fine I guess, but this is the first time in the book we’re seeing this, and Doug even says it’s out of character coming from Olive. It does feel disjointed. Still no straight answer as to whether there’s anything going on between Doug and Sammy, but I’m just glad there’s a universe outside of the two Os. After the show, everyone tells Oscar to get back with Olive. It’s basically round four of the same conversation, but this time to Oscar.

But wait, something weird is happening backstage! Olive’s clothes have gone missing-and so have Jane’s pearls (this was actually some clever foreshadowing so props)! Oscar and Olive go on a scavenger hunt to find her clothes, which we find out were stolen by g-g-g-ghosts! Oscar climbs a ladder by himself to retrieve her dress from the rafters, while SPEAKING OUT LOUD TO HIMSELF (oh thank goodness, I thought we’d moved on from that) about how ghosts don’t exist. Right on cue, a disembodied voice whispers “Osssssccccaaaaarrrrrr” and he understandably craps himself. Carrie actually writes this scene pretty well, so props. Fawn’s ghost then “puts on” the dress and communicates to him that Olive is in danger, and he needs Walter to help them. I don’t know why she needed to steal and put on the dress to do this, but I’m quite enjoying the scene, so I’ll let it happen. Fawn finishes with “HE’S COMING FOR HER” which is quite chilling. Again, props, it’s genuinely spooky. Maybe Carrie should start writing ghost stories full time instead of “magic realism”...

It’s the afterparty and the director tells Olive how well she did, which is fine, and maybe the first time in the book that someone is praising her with a reason to do so. Olive and Oscar talk about their relationship and Olive actually says “Everyone’s rooting for us”, as if the rest of the cast have nothing better to do except sit around and talk about their relationship. Which, as we know from Sammy, Doug, and Howard, they don’t. Olive is stull upset that their relationship is undefined and Oscar doesn’t want to commit, which is fair. Again, it’s a load of talking in circles, page after page of pretty much just dialogue, then they kiss.

But OH MY GOD FINALLY SOMETHING HAPPENS. It’s a horrible something, but a something none the less. So Doug has been crushed by a falling light-or light-rig, it’s not very clear. Anyway, point is, he’s been crushed, and Oscar quickly figures out from his experience that a ghost is to blame. The first time I read this, I thought he was dead, not in the least because Carrie constantly describes the scene as “Doug’s body”, which usually indicates that someone is dead, you know. But he’s still kicking, if grievously injured, and he might lose his arm. It’s absolutely terrible, especially for such a nice character, but sadly we don’t know him any better than knowing that he lives to praise Olive, so sadly there’s not much attachment. Now, there’s the climax for the Sammy story! Doug and Sammy working through the injury together and rebuilding their life and career, overcoming set-backs and coming out stronger. You know, like real people have to. Not the charmed lives of Octopus and Orangutan, neither of whom suffer ANY real setbacks in the book.

Anyway, Tamara jumps ship instantly, but Jane get a little bit of a redemption arc and calls the ambulance. It would have been lovely to see Tamara coming together with Olive to help, even though none of them can do very much-even the two of them sharing a little moment would have been great. I can’t hate Tamara too much for jumping ship-even though it’s not what I or other people would do, no one knows how they’d react in an emergency, even though the book demonises her for it.

However, I do have three big issues with the scene.

  • It’s happened so quickly; despite it being the most dramatic thing to happen so far, it’s not given anything like the amount of words that Oscar and Olive’s stupid arguments are given. I’m not sure if Carrie just wanted to play down the gore, which is fine as I imagine most of her readers are young, but honestly it just feels like this potentially-career-ending injury for Doug isn’t anything like as important as these two idiots whining.
  • When Fawn warned Oscar that Olive was in danger, she couldn’t have done a real solid and warned him about Doug too?
  • We never find out whether Doug was okay. This book gets an epilogue and everything (WHICH I HAVE THOUGHTS ABOUT I’LL SHARE DOWN THE LINE), but not a word about poor Doug. Did he lose his arm? Did he work again? How much money did the production lose in the lawsuit? I guess it was an act of god, I mean ghost, but still. But STILL.
So here are the next few! There are less chapters in this post just because it makes sense with the story-these chapters are set in the present, and the next few are in the past, so I'll do them all together in the next post. I'm so glad so many of you are enjoying reading these and I really appreciate the kind words! I'm just having fun (well, sort of fun) but thank you for taking the time to write them! These next few chapters are some of my least favourite in the book, so please, enjoy :)

@DietGossip-Yes, she's called Olive Green! Seriously. I wasn't going to dignify her name with a comment on it lol. Carrie's names are usually like this; there's a character in On The Other Side called Sonny Shine, so after that, Olive Green sounds almost normal.

The first thing you need to know about Chapter Twelve is that, whatever it is is, it isn’t worth it. It wins the prize for the chapter I’ve hated the most so far; I haven’t been this angry since Olive’s “Not Like Other Girls” rant. I’ve returned to the Os real names for clarity but know that I’m saying them with the same distain as I said Orange and Onion. The whole chapter is just 1) Olive walks the last ten feet towards the theatre and sees Oscar 2) Oscar tell Tamara he’s not interested in her 3) Olive and Oscar have a chat in Olive’s dressing room which resolves nothing. That is well and truly it. Nothing in the plot moves forward, we don’t hear anything about the show, it’s just all Oscar-loves-Olive-not-Tamara-but-can’t-get-it-together, like we’ve heard a hundred times before. A whole chapter of these idiots talking in circles. I don’t remember getting this vexed the first time around, but maybe reading it more analytically has opened my eyes to its true pointlessness.

The thing is, a lot of it isn’t even written particularly badly, and that’s what’s so frustrating. Olive’s interaction with the barrister felt genuine, her feelings come across well, and her situation is relatable. It’s just boring subject matter which certainly wasn’t due an entire chapter. Oh, and of course, Tamara is written with all the subtlety of a bull in a china shop. This is a good opportunity to mention another general point about Carrie’s writing in this book; the handling of which point of view we’re following. Mostly, we switch between Olive and Oscar without so much as an asterisk to spilt them up. The other POV characters are Fawn and Walter. Sometimes we do get a clear page break, but generally, one paragraph is Olive’s POV and the next directly after is Oscar’s. I don’t mind that, although it’s not the clearest it could be, but suddenly, for no reason, and for just one sentence, we are suddenly following Tamara’s point of view. She is not a POV character, and I did wonder if I’d misunderstood, but I’m not going mad, we definitely get Tamara’s thoughts from inside her head, that Oscar had no way of knowing. It’s a bit clumsy, is all.

Anyway, so we’re supposed to look down on Tamara for wearing a pink coat now. Why do the “mean girls” always wear pink? We’re not even told whether it’s a Wednesday. Tamara’s dialogue is vapid to the point of parody. She speaks in short, simple sentences, never more than a few words long, and usually in the form of demands. I want to give props to Carrie for writing a character who doesn’t speak in exactly the same way as Olive, but it feels so mean-spirited. During her conversation with Oscar, she actually says, in response to Oscar telling her that he likes Olive: “You like me!” That’s the whole of her answer. Like an elementary school playground. Soon after, like the sexy mistress in a bad movie, she tells Oscar “You can kiss her and me.” As if Tamara would be okay with that after all her huffing and puffing over Oscar and Olive being together! It’s well established that she wants Oscar to herself. Her lack of morals here and willingness to be “the other woman” is just part of her cartoony characterisation.

So, for absolutely no reason other than to serve the narrative and to give Oscar a big realisation that he’s already had about twelve times, Tamara asks Oscar how he would feel if he saw Olive kiss someone else. This makes him realise wow, he actually would be gutted because he totally wuvs Olive so much. Again. So Oscar tells Tamara he wants Olive, and lo and behold, Olive was listening to the whole thing. Surely now, in this simplistic story structure, Olive should also have had this big realisation too that Oscar really does like her more than Tamara, and they should be skipping happily into the sunset? Nah. More contrived arguments. And they go on for sooooooooooo long. The rest of the chapter, in fact, is just one long conversation between Olive and Oscar. Oscar uses his get-out-of-jail-free card and says that he **technically** didn’t do anything wrong as they weren’t together, and in fairness, Olive is rightly pissed off. The scene reads almost like a script; loads of dialogue with little interludes of description. I would say that this is meant to symbolise a play within a play, but I’m not giving it that much credit. The upshot is, nothing has changed and the kiss with Tamara might as well have not happened, because these idiots are back where they started. They’re not on and not off, they still have feeling for each other, but they’re giving it a cooling off period before they try and define their relationship again.

So my question is WHAT WAS THE POINT? WHAT WAS THE POINT OF ANY OF THIS I WANT MY TIME BACK

I’ve calmed down.

Olive’s male friends in the cast offer to beat Oscar up for hurting her. Friends do make these jokey kinds of threats after a breakup-I know I have-but Olive’s reaction is weird. She says “Now, now boys.” to them, like she’s their fifty-year-old teacher and they’re kids in her class. It’s just so patronising. So…Olive. Oh, and Howard (one of the male friends. I’ve not mentioned him before now and you’ve not noticed him missing because he is basically Doug #2 with less personality) says “You’re a saint, Olive Green. A bloody saint.”. I’ve avoided saying Olive is literally Carrie before now, because I don’t think that’s fair, but this is Carrie as a writer calling her self-insert character (aka herself) a saint. Make what you will of that.

Anyway, it’s opening night and everyone’s excited. Oscar is miserable and staying pretty isolated from the rest of the cast, which is understandable, but they all rally around Olive because she is so lovely and special and perfect. Sammy (the dancer in the show that Jane and Tamora called a whale) hangs out in Olive’s dressing room to prove that she is capable of having female friends. It’s the first time I think in the whole book that Olive has interacted with a woman in a non-combative way. I’m going to talk about Sammy in a minute, but for now, just know that the conversation they have doesn’t pass the Bechdel test as it’s just a re-run of Olive’s convo with the boys earlier where they jokingly threaten Olive, mixed in with “you’re the nicest person in the world, Olive” and “give him another chance, because the rest of the cast have nothing better to do than speculate about your love lives!” That’s barely an exaggeration. It’s pretty much what she says.

After dinner, Olive introduces her friends to Walter. I’m a bit confused as to how none of them but Olive have met him before, as he’s always around the theatre. It did feel a little bit like “look at superstar Olive deigning to talk to the little people backstage, isn’t she a saint?” Anyway, it’s established again that the whole theatre has dodgy electrics, presumably because Fawn likes to mess with them. Olive has a present at stage door for her-two dozen roses, which she thinks must be from her agent (no prizes for guessing who really sent them).

But before we find out who the sender is, we get ANOTHER repeat of the let’s-kill-Oscar-but-give-him-another-chance conversation. This is our THIRD IN ONE CHAPTER. This time, it’s from Howard. I did want to give some credit where credit is due when it comes to this character. Carrie manages to introduce that Howard is gay without her usual “This is Howard. He is gay.”, which I respected. Props. If Carrie managed to flesh out all of her characters that subtly and well, I’d be writing a different review. But their conversation is just more of the same, really, with Howard’s take being “take him back but make him sweat”.

So Olive gets back to her dressing room, and find out to no one’s shock but hers that the roses are from Oscar, with a note asking her to meet him when the curtain falls (roll credits), just like Fawn and Walter did. At that moment, all the bulbs in Olive’s room burst, presumably courtesy of Fawn, who was probably rattled by the phrasing of the note. For some reason, Olive calls for a man to save her from the burst bulb, specifically Howard, but Oscar shows up. There’s another confusing change in point of view so vague I can’t actually pinpoint where we stop following Olive and start following Oscar.

A quick word about Sammy. Now, I like Sammy; I remember liking her the first time around too. Carrie writes her quite clumsily as “sassy”-basically, she says “honey” and “gurrl” a lot, but I appreciate the attempt. Here’s my hot take-Sammy should have been the protagonist. She’s a member of the ensemble, much more relatable than a leading lady, and her point of view wouldn’t have come down from a pedestal as a result. We could have got the Oscar/Olive drama through her if we really wanted, as she’s Olive’s friend, but she has a little lovestory herself with Doug that’s much more endearing (at this point in the book, we know they fancy each other, though they both rather sweetly deny it). She is bullied by Tamara and Jane, but stands up for herself. It’s implied that she’s a bigger woman (we don’t know how much bigger), trying to make it in theatre. We could have watched her overcoming the comments about her body and her insecurities in a brutal industry to find love with Doug, work hard, and have a wonderful career onstage. I want that book. Someone tell Carrie I’ve written her a sequel, hahaha.

The opening night show is about to begin! Carrie writes Olive’s excitement and nerves pretty well, as I’m sure she’s writing from experiences. This chapter starts with a few nudge-nudge wink-wink innuendos, which is fine I guess, but this is the first time in the book we’re seeing this, and Doug even says it’s out of character coming from Olive. It does feel disjointed. Still no straight answer as to whether there’s anything going on between Doug and Sammy, but I’m just glad there’s a universe outside of the two Os. After the show, everyone tells Oscar to get back with Olive. It’s basically round four of the same conversation, but this time to Oscar.

But wait, something weird is happening backstage! Olive’s clothes have gone missing-and so have Jane’s pearls (this was actually some clever foreshadowing so props)! Oscar and Olive go on a scavenger hunt to find her clothes, which we find out were stolen by g-g-g-ghosts! Oscar climbs a ladder by himself to retrieve her dress from the rafters, while SPEAKING OUT LOUD TO HIMSELF (oh thank goodness, I thought we’d moved on from that) about how ghosts don’t exist. Right on cue, a disembodied voice whispers “Osssssccccaaaaarrrrrr” and he understandably craps himself. Carrie actually writes this scene pretty well, so props. Fawn’s ghost then “puts on” the dress and communicates to him that Olive is in danger, and he needs Walter to help them. I don’t know why she needed to steal and put on the dress to do this, but I’m quite enjoying the scene, so I’ll let it happen. Fawn finishes with “HE’S COMING FOR HER” which is quite chilling. Again, props, it’s genuinely spooky. Maybe Carrie should start writing ghost stories full time instead of “magic realism”...

It’s the afterparty and the director tells Olive how well she did, which is fine, and maybe the first time in the book that someone is praising her with a reason to do so. Olive and Oscar talk about their relationship and Olive actually says “Everyone’s rooting for us”, as if the rest of the cast have nothing better to do except sit around and talk about their relationship. Which, as we know from Sammy, Doug, and Howard, they don’t. Olive is stull upset that their relationship is undefined and Oscar doesn’t want to commit, which is fair. Again, it’s a load of talking in circles, page after page of pretty much just dialogue, then they kiss.

But OH MY GOD FINALLY SOMETHING HAPPENS. It’s a horrible something, but a something none the less. So Doug has been crushed by a falling light-or light-rig, it’s not very clear. Anyway, point is, he’s been crushed, and Oscar quickly figures out from his experience that a ghost is to blame. The first time I read this, I thought he was dead, not in the least because Carrie constantly describes the scene as “Doug’s body”, which usually indicates that someone is dead, you know. But he’s still kicking, if grievously injured, and he might lose his arm. It’s absolutely terrible, especially for such a nice character, but sadly we don’t know him any better than knowing that he lives to praise Olive, so sadly there’s not much attachment. Now, there’s the climax for the Sammy story! Doug and Sammy working through the injury together and rebuilding their life and career, overcoming set-backs and coming out stronger. You know, like real people have to. Not the charmed lives of Octopus and Orangutan, neither of whom suffer ANY real setbacks in the book.

Anyway, Tamara jumps ship instantly, but Jane get a little bit of a redemption arc and calls the ambulance. It would have been lovely to see Tamara coming together with Olive to help, even though none of them can do very much-even the two of them sharing a little moment would have been great. I can’t hate Tamara too much for jumping ship-even though it’s not what I or other people would do, no one knows how they’d react in an emergency, even though the book demonises her for it.

However, I do have three big issues with the scene.

  • It’s happened so quickly; despite it being the most dramatic thing to happen so far, it’s not given anything like the amount of words that Oscar and Olive’s stupid arguments are given. I’m not sure if Carrie just wanted to play down the gore, which is fine as I imagine most of her readers are young, but honestly it just feels like this potentially-career-ending injury for Doug isn’t anything like as important as these two idiots whining.
  • When Fawn warned Oscar that Olive was in danger, she couldn’t have done a real solid and warned him about Doug too? Or was Doug just canon fodder? Chopped liver? Guess so…he’s not special like Olive so he doesn’t get guardian theatre angels. We find out that the ghost who hurt Doug thought he was someone else, which I guess could explain it, but still.
  • We never find out whether Doug was okay. This book gets an epilogue and everything (WHICH I HAVE THOUGHTS ABOUT I’LL SHARE DOWN THE LINE), but not a word about poor Doug. Did he lose his arm? Did he work again? How much money did the production lose in the lawsuit? I guess it was an act of god, I mean ghost, but still. But STILL.
This is perfect, love all of it! Hilarious.
Some people who read the book have said it seems similar to what (might have) happened between Carrie and Oliver (and other women in the cast) during The Addams Family. I know it's impossible to know what's based on her life and what isn't, but do you feel like some of it could be based/inspired by that?
 
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What do you mean, Carrie is the short of person that will get jealous if her friends get more success than her. Lol she likes it that she more well known
 
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I agree, and even if it would go to the west end, don't really think Carrie gets jealous/annoyed at the gigs her friends/aquiantances/boyfriend get. I mean, she has her faults, but I never got the sense she would get bitter about that sort of thing. Just my two cents
I agree I don’t think this one example is too major, but it’s an indication of something I’ve noticed a lot. What struck me about it, and brought me to post it on here, is that it’s also just another hint at her isolation even within her own industry, at least publicly. Rather how isolated she’s becoming. Just compare her involvement in West End Does to the little she did in lockdown, she turned down/ignored a leave the light on concert with the theatre cafe and she was part of only one of the compilation videos of performers singing songs from home, and never did the drive through s or anything like that which Oliver did even when he would have been under contract, or at very least waiting to hear from, Disney for frozen. Even the thing she did do was a halloween skit/song for west end does Halloween and one episode with the Theatre Cafe. Yes, it could all be contractual with Cinderella, and she did have her daily videos (and I’m by no means saying she should have taken someone’s spot who needed the pay, but most of these the performers weren’t paid from what I could tell) but it got to a point where it was very obvious that she was a name that was missing. This is just another example of that, most of these girls have been in Six but not all of them, and she was apparently so so close to Sophie. Even with Cinderella she doesn’t exactly seem integrated in the industry beyond ALW himself and Ivo (apologies if I’ve got his name wrong) got the theatre industry focused gig (the BBC celebration of musicals) whereas she got solo stints on the One Show, Children in Need and All Star Musicals, big gigs yes but the relative separation has just seemed a little odd to me is all 🤷🏼‍♀️

Apologies for the long post, this was something I noticed a while ago so I just kept typing and this came out 😂
 
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