Caroline Hirons #4

[lalalanded]

Am I missing something? Her entire raison d'etre is skin care and advising on the best products! Physician heal thyself. She's had her eyes done and botox. No skin care is going to give the same results. 'Tweakments' is absolute nonsense. In her line of work, if you're not honest then surely you are risking your reputation? And she has worked in customer service and on social media - again, being rude is making her look far worse. A simple 'It's my personal decision to have work done' would suffice. She does look like she's had a forehead full of botox, it's not subtle at all.

 

[EnterNameHerePls]

This will teach her for being a selfish smug cow releasing expensive kits so close together and so close to Christmas during a PANDEMIC.

 

[DreamyGal]

Hirons made a comment in one of her IGTVs a few weeks ago when she was discussing using a flannel to clean her face and that she was fully aware this was contrary to the advice given by dermatologists, but that basically she didn’t give a shit. I’m paraphrasing, but we all know what she’s like so you get the drift. I don’t think she gives a monkeys what qualified experts think, she knows better

Thing that baffles me in that group is how they recommend esthetician’s for everything
Some girl said she was suffering with acne she was a WOC and they recommended Dija I looked at her ‘acne’ package and it’s like £1k when you could spend that on seeing a dermatologist for less

 

[SqualorVictoria]

Caroline reflecting? That'll be the day!

 

[Shineyshine]

Sounds like a Tattler!

So, is she saying she hasn’t had Botox at all in her forehead? Is this true? Or is she being economical with the truth, and she’s had ‘some’ but it’s the phrase ‘forehead full of Botox’ to which she objects? Come on Hirons, let’s have it since you’re so truthful.

 

[Shineyshine]

Its getting too commercial for me... she's built a reputation on her honesty.. but now its more marketing herself. .hugely expensive boxes. .some can afford... but really unnecessary. .. irony on a recent live on acids was thatvshe herself is on Tret so not using much!

The message is not clear...earlier she used to say have 2 or 3 of each product type in rotation. . Now never ever says that...
Wgat ead the rant on vaseline about ..its grim. .thats your personal opinion. . thats okay.. it makes tret ineffective. .how n why.. just said it ..n left it there. .vaseline is inert ..if topped on tret itll lock it in at best... all this half information just confuses people .n i start suspecting that if more people switch to vaseline its gonna impact sales!!

My theory about the Vaseline rant is that she’s done it to have a pop back at the dermatologist Dr Natalia Spierings. They had a minor run in a couple of weeks ago and this is Hirons payback. The doc basically advocates, as do a lot of derms, that all you need pm is your tret and some Vaseline (or aquafor, etc), presumably to act as a barrier in sensitive areas. A lot of people are suddenly talking about this as a pared down pm routine, asking questions about it and it seems to be gaining some traction - not a good money spinner for influencers like Hirons. So to me this looks like a blatant, very public, dig at the doc. Very petty and unprofessional in my opinion.

 

[Enid Swamp]

The Hirons are undoubtedly devoted family people.

 

[rileysbunny]

I remember Caroline saying quite a few times that "a moisturizer with SPF is just a weaker SPF, you need a separate SPF" on her IG lives. When I asked her why would that be since all products with SPF need to meet the same regulatory requirements to declare the SPF value, she didn't really have an answer but said it's "proven" that people are able to use more SPF than moisturizer.

Well, Michelle from Lab Muffin Beauty Science just posted a video that busted this myth. She also said there is zero reliable evidence to suggest the general population uses more sunscreen on their faces than moisturizers.

 

[SqualorVictoria]

Maybe it was a case of sabotage, as he realises how gaudy and cheap looking those bags are?

 

[EnterNameHerePls]

Someone posted this this morning. Spelling mistake on the Medik8 C-Tetra from Hirons summer kit. People saying it must be a fake then the OP saying it was from the kit, so can’t be. Bit odd? Wonder where Hirons sourced them from cheap. That’s weird.

 

[Icemaiden01]

Wow.... no one needs that much skincare..... particularly if it’s putting their family into debt that credit card would be cut up!

 

[Sheeeet]

Skimmed through it. Pixie, Glossier, Dr Dennis Gross, Tan Luxe...whatever.

MakkaPakka's face right now

 

[FelinityHelix]

EYE ROLL

 

[Wobblehead]

I’m all for grandma love but anyone else think she is acting like it’s her own baby?

 

[Bleurghgram]

Anyone know what prompted this rant?

Screenshots of people slagging her off in other groups do her moderators police the entire internet for her, or just her competition?

 

[EnterNameHerePls]

Thank you for using my suggestion! Love the mashup!

People are now posting pictures of their acid burns around their eyes on the Freaks group today! One lady made a post about hers and a few people have now commented saying they’ve had the same thing from using “actives” ... Lovely! How long we betting until CH gets sued? Come on! Please don’t be long!
Maybe it’s because on the bottles of these products they say don’t use them near eyes, and CH says they have to say that for legal reasons and it’s fine to use them around eyes!

The excerpt from the book... and what happens when you put acid on your eyes.

 

[Yellowfairy]

I'm into skincare and in a few skincare groups on facebook and recently joined hers to see what it was all about. I have to say it seems like one of the worse skincare groups I've joined. It looks like its full of people who don't even know the basics of skincare who apply hundreds of products and then wonder why they have so many issues with their skin. I understand its a large group but it seems very disorganised compared to other large skincare groups I'm in. In many of the other groups I'm in the idea less is more and that you don't need to use loads of products is promoted but in her group it seems like the idea more is more and using one hundred and one different products on your skin is promoted.

 

[SqualorVictoria]

CH herself doesn’t disclose things properly. So yet again I call her, in my opinion, a big old hypocrite.

When the ASA got tougher, several ‘influencers’ (hate that term) started using the #presstreatment #presssample etc bollocks. Chapman sisters, Nadine Baggott, AMR and a few others all do it. They use those instead of plain old AD, because they don’t like to look as if they advertise too much. Whereas in reality it’s still an advert, they’re receiving a free service instead of actual cash, and then telling their followers all about it. They may not ‘formally’ have been asked to do this or physically paid money to do this, but they have an ongoing relationship with said company. If they stopped getting their hair done for free they wouldn’t say how wonderful they are any more...

Caroline and Sam Chapman both get their hair done for free in Josh Wood and both of their hair looks terrible. So they can say how wonderful Josh Wood's salon is but they're clearly lying

 

[Enid Swamp]

I have no problem with people having Botox, I’m considering it, but if you are telling me about the wonder effects of <<insert product>> I want to know about the scaffolding propping it up.

 

[SqualorVictoria]

I see what you mean but also, CH is a brand and that's how she sells herself. The person commenting is essentially the customer/ client. If a customer/ client is rude or abrupt to us, we rise above it and don't respond in kind. I'm not talking about abuse/ trolling, no one should put up with that. Influencers can't have it every way. Either they're just a regular person with an IG account or else they're working with brands, selling us products, using our views/ clicks / engagement to push stuff to us, use affiliate links, get sponsored posts, all that sort of stuff.