Caroline Hirons #3

[50sGirl]

CHs advice has helped my skin enormously but I’ve become so disillusioned with her lately.

When she first started out, it was so refreshing to have a lady of a similar age to myself talking about beauty.
All the “youngsters” seemed bothered about was subscribers, PR samples and fame.
She was different back then.

Now I’m sad to say she appears to have gone down the same route.

I didn’t buy her book because I knew it was already on her blog.
I have in the past bought several of her kits. I just wish we were informed more in advance of the contents so that we could weigh up if it is suitable rather than rush in for fear of missing out.

Her kits ARE expensive and it saddens me that women in their early 20s and younger are desperately trying to find a way to pay for them.
She always said “don’t credit card skincare” - what happened to that mantra?
I wouldn’t have been able to afford them in my 20s, but then my skin probably didn’t need them then.

I hate the term “freak” and have never called Caroline “my Queen“ - I’m not 10 years old!

 

[treatyo'self]

Some poor lady has asked the ultimate question- why is everyone so hysterical about the kits. Needless to say, admins on the FB group shut it down ASAP

Just came here to post this. You literally cannot challenge anything in that group without admins closing comments.

I also can't deal with the amount of people looking for attention or needing validation from a group of strangers on Facebook.
'Oh my last post got no replies, poor me, I must leave the group immediately. But first I'll post this post about getting no comments on my post and feeling disheartened.'
'Oh no lovey, don't leave, Queen Hirons needs you. It's just the ALLLLGGGOORRITIM'.

WELL ACTUALLY MAYBE IT'S NOT THE ALGORITIM, INSTEAD PEOPLE ARE SICK OF REPLYING TO THE SAME QUESTION LOOKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION FOR A FACIAL MIST OVER AND OVER..USE THE FECKING SEARCH FUNCTION.

 

[Leosworld]

WTF she actually said that about Fenty?

Oh yes. She approached a ‘mate’ who works for the same PR company Fenty uses. Gave her some passive-aggressive shit, something along the lines of ‘Oh I’m not getting the new Fenty Skin range then?’ This should all be on an IGTV btw but happy to summarise.

Said friend then said ‘But Caroline you DID say no parcels, no NDAs etc...’

Caroline responds, ‘Oh yeah but that didn’t apply to RIHANNA!’.

I threw my eyes so far back into my skull they almost never returned.

 

[FelinityHelix]

Any money she raises will be a drop in the ocean compared to the cash needed to help these beauty businesses. This should be the GOVERNMENT'S job. Raising charity money takes the pressure off the government. Sir Tom raising all that money for the NHS was incredible and heartbreaking at the same time. It shouldn't be necessary and in any event the amount raised was not anywhere near enough to make that big a difference. Sad but true. I wish it had been...truly. It made me sick watching the government applaud him. They should be ashamed.
I can't help but see her now as Caroline "Bob Geldolf shouting "Give me yer fooking money"" Hirons now. Again, Live Aid was incredible, admirable ground breaking and awareness raising but the real economic problems were WAY greater.

Don't vote Tory and campaign for Universal Basic Income!

Completely agree.

The NHS is not a charity. It requires proper funding by the Government.

The beauty industry is also not a charity. I won’t be donating. I will be getting my hair cut soon (first time since lockdown!) and paying for the service properly (take note Caroline).

I do agree that the UK Governments handling of Covid has been terrible and I feel for those who cannot work. But it is not up to us to pay for this - we simply couldn’t keep all those in business. The Gov need to sort it out.

 

[JulieScoobyDoo]

Completely agree.

The NHS is not a charity. It requires proper funding by the Government.

The beauty industry is also not a charity. I won’t be donating. I will be getting my hair cut soon (first time since lockdown!) and paying for the service properly (take note Caroline).

I do agree that the UK Governments handling of Covid has been terrible and I feel for those who cannot work. But it is not up to us to pay for this - we simply couldn’t keep all those in business. The Gov need to sort it out.

In the meantime though thousands of self employed beauticians are going under, no longer able to feed their kids through no fault of their own. I agree that the government should step in and sort itself out but whilst it does that people are losing their homes, cant feed themselves and can no longer pay their rent.

I am no fan of Caroline and agree that the beauty industry is not a charity, nor would the people most affected view themselves as such. But they spent thousands on making sure they were compliant with the new rules for opening and at the last minute they were told they couldn't open, with less than 12 hours notice.

I donated because my industry has not been affected and I have continued to be able to work from home, so acknowledging my privilege I have donated what I can to (predominantly) women who are struggling because if feels like the right thing to do.

 

[Brian Butterfield]

I admire what she’s doing and agree the government is stupid
However, I don’t think tagging brands is the way to go

She did donate £10,000 though

10K which is also tax deductible which will help reduce her corporation tax bill massively.

 

[Warrend]

Ooh, ooh, thread suggestion!

Caroline Hirons #4: now available on Clearpay.

 

[50sGirl]

Here’s we go.....
Wonder how this will go

Think it might be worth asking Admin to edit out the Facebook posters name.
I’d not be very happy if something I thought I was telling a private FB group was being published publicly elsewhere on the internet with my name attached to it.

 

[JulieScoobyDoo]

I couldn't agree more. Two things that shills like CH never mention are that HRT isn't for everyone as it permanently increases your risk of breast cancer (even smoking doesn't do that), and that HRT only kicks the can down the road, it doesn't 'treat' or 'cure' menopause - at some point you have to come off HRT and then you'll go through menopause, hot flushes and all. Infuriating.

That is not true

There are plenty of studies that show it does not “permanently increase your risk of breast cancer” It also does not “kick the can down the road”. You do not have to come off at HRT at some point, and nothing to suggest you will then have all the symptoms

Im afraid all of your points are wrong. I’ve done a huge amount of research into HRT, and I was on it for 8 years.

Please don’t post misinformation as fact. I know this is a gossip site but women here terrified of the menopause may read that and think those points are all true when they aren’t

Everybody should do their own research and speak to their GP or a menopause specialist and make their own informed decision about HRT. But please don’t fear it because it can be life changing for many women who suffer from one or more of the 35 recognised menopause symptoms that aren’t just night sweats and hot flushes

 

[swipeup]

Honestly I think she's heading for a spectacular fall from grace if she carries on like this. The ego is out of control and I think she's fallen into that trap of only having yes people round about her who aren't prepared to stand up to her and tell her she needs to take it down a notch. Doesn't she have a lot of family members working for her and the management company will be on the payroll so who's she accountable to? I hope someone with some clout in "her" industry can take her aside and get her back on track because I don't think this behaviour is going to end well.

 

[SqualorVictoria]

Honestly the whole influencer culture just needs to fuck off already. Buying heaps of products because some blogger pretended to be our mate.

If you went into say, John Lewis, and the sales assistant told you you needed to buy 10 products @ £25 each, people would recognise that for what it is- selling. Caroline does it and she gets constant praise and "isn't she wonderful"

I just don't understand how people think influencers offer unbiased opinions and care when they are being paid to push a product. Walk into a store with make up counters and each member of staff on the counters will sell that product because that's who pays them to do it. Same when sales assistant tells you an outfit looks good.

How can you trust a skincare expert like Caroline who slated Dermalogica and now promotes them?! She is only loyal to the brands who pay her.

Snap!!

 

[Badabing101]

She still has no right to dictate who should donate- it's not uncommon for large companies to have charity partners in place already.

Exactly I work for a global brand and we cannot donate / raise money for just any charity withIn each region or country. It has to be done via our Corporate Responsibility team. If you are a major brand with shareholders you have to be crystal clear about where the money is being spent. A go fund me page set up in 3 days would not be the place. How do we / they know exactly how the money will be spent etc? Now I am not saying that big charities are not problematic - look at the scandal with Oxfam - but it’s very easy for monies and donations to be mishandled. I am not for one minute saying that will happen here, but regulation, accountability and transparency is absolutely key to ensuring the donations are distributed in the right way.

 

[rosemarina]

She's not and never has been "press".

 

[EnterNameHerePls]

Turns out Hirons is paranoid too.

Lookfantastic put out a 25% discount on Dr Dennis Gross products as an email exclusive. Not to everyone. Some people, me included, got an Olaplex offer instead. Someone posted it in the Freaks group saying how shady it was of Lookfantastic. Many commented that it was probably a preplanned offer as there aren’t many marketing teams agile enough to prepare a discount 48 hours after seeing it was included in Hirons kit. CH immediately comments, WRONG. They’ve definitely done it on the back of the summer kit. They do it every time.

She really does think the world revolves around her, huh?

 

[FelinityHelix]

I don’t know how, (through clicking I think,) but earlier I landed on Caroline’s Instagram stories. Suffice to say, I won’t be going back.
What is her problem? I get that she is trying hard to be ‘WOkE’ but does she not see that calling people out for having different opinions as her, is just as bad as people calling out her opinions in the first place
So what if there are certain religions that don’t believe in homosexuality or won’t acknowledge the transgender. I’m pretty sure the LGBTQ community don’t actually want their support and won’t be apologising or bothered with them anyway. Also I can’t see any of the BAME communities running head first into a EDL March asking for their friendship either. Not everyone is the same fgs.
As for the ‘stay in your lane’ thing. Anyone’s entitled to an opinion about everything as long as they do their homework and make it from an informed, well balanced, honest place. We think what we think and that’s that.
She’s offended that the ‘certain white women’ that have been buying her skincare range for years and keeping her business afloat are asking her to calm her mid life crisis down for the gram.
I’m not that ‘certain white woman’ but I don’t feel the need to drag them out. Who died and made her chief of women? She should wind her neck in

Absolutely!

Im really over CH now. The whole ‘woke’ thing is bloody ridiculous. She is a massive hypocrite too...apparently on radio 4 she called a load of her followers ‘Karens’ I’m not certain in what exact context but presumably because some white women are complaining that her feed is less skin care and more social opinion. So much for embracing women by ridiculing anyone who has a different opinion.

I do have similar opinions as CH on vaccines etc and it goes without saying really about BLM but manner in which she delivers her views are beyond childish. In fact, I’m sure many children could deliver a better, more well reasoned argument for their beliefs than her.

Ranting and raving is not going to change people’s opinions, how about she take a breath and listen to people and maybe engage in intelligent conversation rather than telling people to ‘get in the bin, ‘get in the sea’ etc etc

 

[treatyo'self]

Caroline Hirons #4: Buy my kit or I'll have a fit!

 

[SqualorVictoria]

It should be called grifter samples/ appointments

How fucking dare Caroline lecture people about supporting the industry when the greedy oaf can't put her own hands into her pockets!

 

[AmberSpyglass]

How embarrassing to be called out and shamed for being a tight arse.

 

[cholulamare]

The Taylor Swift thing is absolutely ridiculous. No one is obliged to hire unnecessary workers in a global pandemic. TS may have her own legitimate reasons for not doing so: she may have family members who are vulnerable, the R rate might be high where she lives, she might just NOT WANT TO put any additional people at risk if it's not totally necessary. Besides which, Covid unemployment relief in the US at the moment is $600 a week; MUAs and hairdressers are in the same boat as everyone else. But CH won't have considered any of this - thinking before speaking is too much like hard work.

 

[Kitkatkut]

“Behave yourselves ffs”? For defending someone she was publicly shaming? What are her followers, little kids that she can tell off like that now? That stupid tit is so full of herself, it’s unbelievable. Yes, I’m sure Taylor Swift doesn’t give a flying fuck what some stupid saleswoman says about her, but honestly, the way this bulldog talks to her followers baffles me.