Me still tying to figure out how to flick a phone
Did she flip the table in the police station, or did she in fact flick itThe fact he called police tells me he was scared for himself and/or her. That should not be taken likely or minimised. The details that have came out about when the police arrived she admitted she assaulted him, she had self harmed, there was blood everywhere and in the police station she flipped a table. Man or woman it doesn't matter, she sounded completely out of control and down right scary no wonder he called the police, this is not just a case of 'flicking a phone' she was obviously in a heightened state where she could not be calmed. He was that fearful he called the police, that is domestic violence - including threats of harm or harm to yourself in order to frighten or emotional blackmail/control your partner. I know Lewis got alot of hate for calling the police but I think given the information about the state she was in it was very much warranted. I know her mum and other people were criticising the police but they were doing there job? The cos decided there was enough evidence to charge her, they had footage of her admitted she hit him? What were they supposed to do? Let her off because she was a celebrity?
We should all remember that that this website is tattle, all gossip and if we want to consume facts go to a news outlet. So it really is pointless to get angry at opinions as that's all they are.I think it is problematic though if something is being stated repeatedly as a fact when it is simply not known.
And I do think that from a legal perspective it makes a difference - if she flicked the phone at him after finding something that upset her it is far less incriminating than hitting him with a heavier object in cold blood.
This is also why the report circles in on this.
i don't think it is fair to spread false facts about a person that can no longer defend herself and that most likely killed herself because she was unable to deal with these sorts of rumours.
The article also states that she did not want to go to hospital because she feared the press would pick it up.
This is why the coroner found that she killed herself because of the fear of the media and publicity.
I am also surprised that people have so little sympathy for her.
When I was 20 a flatmate, and one of my bf's at the time, locked herself in her room with a steak knife and threatened to cut her wrists. It's by far one of the scariest things because I loved this person and she's never done this before. I didn't know what to do. I phoned her parents and they didn't really seem that bothered but I ended up getting her sister to come over.Yes because what else can you do when someone is having a huge meltdown, there is a real risk either to them or yourself - you call the police. Being woken up by an object being thrown at you, someone screaming, threatening self harm (and carrying through with it), that’s bleeping scary. Of course he called the police, who wouldn’t.
perhaps now with the outcome he wishes he hadn’t called them but even if he hadn’t - perhaps she would have put a knife in him or even herself in the next moment.
It is impossible to say where different choices or actions might lead, the tiny details are irrelevant here, we are not trying to solve a murder mystery.
Thank you for sticking to the facts in this thread. You’ve been up against it, but you’ve only stated 100% truth and been objective so I have to take my hat of to you for that xClearly it is not possible to have any constructive discussions with you. I provided facts, you couldn't deal with them.
You are just bullies.
And yes, I should have predicted that artificial intelligence would overwhelm you.
Chat GPT is quite commonly used in the legal profession now:
How in-house lawyers can (and should) use AI and ChatGPT | The Law Society
In-house teams need to get on board with generative AI: that's the message from Lizzy Lim, legal counsel at Trustpilot. She shares how ChatGPT and other forms of AI can enhance productivity of in-house departments, and what risks legal professionals should be aware of.www.lawsociety.org.uk
And - ironically - I actually did speak to a HHJ (meaning: His Honour Judge) today and address hin as "Your Honour". Yes, in court. As an advocate.
And - guess what - my submitted evidence contained translations produced by AI - which was totally acceptable to the HHJ. Wow, huh?
i guess the jokes on you (as always?).
(Sorry, but I now understand why you have to use GIFs and Emojis. I will no longer communicate with you, it would be more sensible to argue with pigeons.)
I can tell you something I would like to flick of my ownDid she flip the table in the police station, or did she in fact flick it![]()
By that logic, should we just dismiss all Jimmy Savile's accusers because he's dead and therefore cannot confirm or deny the allegations against himself? Granted he didn't kill himself, but for some (most?) of his victims we only have their word. Maybe he just "flicked" them.I really do not think it is ok to repeat something about a dead person, especially a person that killed herself due to her poor mental health (!), that nobody can confirm and nobody knows.
I tried to make this point earlier by using Epstein but it was beyond some people’s comprehensionBy that logic, should we just dismiss all Jimmy Savile's accusers because he's dead and therefore cannot confirm or deny the allegations against himself? Granted he didn't kill himself, but for some (most?) of his victims we only have their word. Maybe he just "flicked" them.
Just to clarify: I'm not comparing CF with JS, or the allegations against CF to those against JS, just pointing out that someone being dead doesn't mean we should stop discussing their behaviour. Being dead doesn't (and shouldn't) absolve you of the tit you did when you were alive.
You could possibly compare to Cheryl Cole but she was convicted of assaulting the bathroom worker. I was always disgusted with the whole thing because I felt there was also an element of racism involved. Again IMO a case of good PR and the record labels trying to protect their investment. Nobody ever mentions itInteresting that the comparisons so far we've given (myself included)have all been men.......
Trying to think of another famous female celebrity that had mental health issues and was accused of DV and I'm honestly drawing a blank![]()
I don’t really agree with that about her level of celebrity. I would class her as high profile. She was a presenter on X Factor and IACGMOOH plus she won Strictly Come Dancing. All three shows were on prime time TV.There was enough evidence for the CPS to pursue a charge against her.
Having been involved in a horrid incident myself, it took months to even get to the CPS and the relief when they said Yes to the charges was indescribable. Their benchmark is pretty high in chances of a conviction. And she wasn't exactly a high profile celebrity, she was a presenter of a show for mostly teenagers/young adults on a sub channel.
I agree she was high profile but like a C-list celebrity at bestI don’t really agree with that about her level of celebrity. I would class her as high profile. She was a presenter on X Factor and IACGMOOH plus she won Strictly Come Dancing. All three shows were on prime time TV.
My husband doesn’t watch much TV but he knew who she was and was shocked when she died.