Caroline Flack

[Badirene]

Her Mum is foolish bringing this up again, as plenty of people will be reminded about her throwing the lamp at her bloke and will discuss the rights and wrongs of that instead!

Not just that but the fact she was a woman in her early thirties shagging a 17 year old. Attitudes have changed since 2012 and what was once "it's legal, every young lads dream" can now be viewed as an established older woman taking advantage of a teenager in the workplace. This push to examine Caroline's life could open some very ugly can of worms.

 

[Mrsturnerreturns]

OMG change the record, pages and pages of arguing whether it was wrong or right about CF knocking off or not knocking off Harry Styles

 

[Boogs]

She really is putting dangerous information out there. Caroline hit her boyfriend in the head with ‘something’ when he was sleeping and caused a head injury that bled. She also lost her shit and flipped a table at the police station. That is not acceptable behaviour and whether you have mental health issues or not you are still accountable for your actions. I’m sure most victims of domestic abuse don’t want to press charges and most perpetrators will make excuses for their behaviour and avoid accountability. I hate to say it but I can see why Caroline couldn’t handle consequences if her mum babied her like this.

 

[GeminiMoon]

I think Lewis is a bad sort - partly because of things that have been reported about him and partly because of a hunch (I realise that has no credibility).

Lewis and Lottie have been photographed having quite bad public arguments a few times. I doubt their relationship is rosy. It just isn’t as dramatic as his relationship with Caroline for whatever reason - maybe their dynamic is different and/or Lottie is more emotionally composed.

He was suspected of cheating on Caroline or at least being in contact with other women more than once.

Is it a coincidence that his past two relationships have been with wealthy, vulnerable women that have apparently financially supported him or does he target that type deliberately?

He was/is involved in some seemingly dodgy social media finance venture. He doesn’t seem to have a job otherwise.

After ringing the police (as he should have) he made vindictive comments to Caroline about how the phone call would affect her reputation. I think it was something like “you’re fucked now”. I think this indicates he was motivated not only by self-protection.

Despite publicly appearing to support her and not pressing charges, I think he was manipulative and enjoyed Caroline’s downfall in the end. After all, he sent an ex girlfriend a photo of Caroline’s blood all over the bed (why would you think to do that? Taking a pic as evidence is one thing but sending it to an ex partner is another) which he would have known could easily get into the hands of the media and inflame the situation.

He also quickly started a new relationship with someone who, if not friends with Caroline certainly seemed to be closely connected to her life. This relationship was said to have begun at a memorial for Caroline, which I think speaks volumes about how he really felt about Caroline.

Caroline abused him that night and he was a victim but, in my opinion, he is an immoral, manipulative, parasitic grease ball.

 

[ahtisyourself]

Where was her mother through all of this? Sounds like the friends did their best.

 

[Whitepillowcase]

Ohhhh, so he is supposed to have told her "You're fucked" as in you're fucked up in the head. I misunderstood this and thought it was being suggested that he said you're fucked now, I'm going to report you for this.

Either way would be unpleasant to hear, let's be honest but the architect of these events was always Caroline. However embarrassing the fallout was, she set this in motion and looking for blame (although understandable) will bring no peace to her loved ones.

I read it as “you’re fucked”as I’m calling the police

 

[Mishka13]

I know this from someone close to Lewis, that Caroline was out, she came home, went through his phone, found messages and did hit him with a lamp while he was sleeping. He called the police, she slit her wrists.
When the police came, she was uncontrollable and upturned a table and wouldn’t calm down.

Months into her relationship with Andrew Brady he was made to sign a NDA because of the arguments and her threats of suicide.

I’ve said previously on this thread, it seems Caroline had insecurity issues from a very young age, stemming from being a twin and being cheated on, it seems, with every single boyfriend.

Caroline shouldn’t have lashed out.. she should have fxcked Lewis off. He’s a leach.

I’m actually quite scared for Lottie. Lewis is a player.

 

[GoLando]

Whilst I accept CF’s mother is grieving, no one seems to stop and think about the poor PC who’s being told she’s to blame. She’s human too and this will no doubt play on her mind for the rest of her life.

 

[Very traditional]

You can compare Ant and Caroline’s situation at all - both very very different.

I think they are comparable - the exact circumstances may be different but they both concern a TV star with issues with drink, drugs & mental health committing a crime while under the influence which could hurt other people and ruin their careers, the man was treated with kindness and had his job kept open and the woman was thrown under the bus. I didn’t particularly like Caroline and I’m not justifying her actions by any means, if anything I think she was right to be suspended while under criminal investigation but I believe the same should have happened to Ant.

 

[Moronic]

I took a few things from this doc.

1. It’s very sad that she took her life following a lifelong battle with her mental health
2. She hit Lewis with her phone and her mum and solicitor minimising this is really not ok.
3. Her mum seems obsessed with Caroline’s image and doesn’t highlight any responsibility Caroline had in this. I agree the press are disgusting. But Caroline did assault him, I also thought it was quite telling how she later trashed her flat. It’s understandable why Caroline therefore had such a fragile ego and couldn’t admit any responsibility.

 

[Rxt156]

The mother needs to stop seeking publicity and blaming others. She needs to deal with her grief privately and seek professional support. None of this blame game is going to bring Caroline back or make things any better for the family.

The mother is actually hurting other people now, and it's unfair.

Suicide is very difficult to rationalise for those left behind and it's easy to point fingers.

Also shame on any tv producers exploiting the mother's grief.

Beat me to it. They don't see a woman hurting - they see £££££

 

[BettyCrocker]

It’s all just really really sad and inevitable as by this point she seemed ill to the point of no return, I say to the point of no return because of who she surrounded herself with. I know people were trying to help her but this could have been avoided, she should not have ever been alone in a flat that ill. Personally I would have got her out somehow and called taken her to hospital myself to get her sectioned. Yes you would probably be deceiving her to get her there but needs must Yes she would have possibly lost her career anyway but at the end she’d be alive, getting better and able to move on with her life. All that money and fame and people around yet nobody advised on how to handle a very unwell person? Mental illness is still so so misunderstood it’s crazy.

thing is though you can’t just rock up at a hospital with someone and demand to have them sectioned. It doesn’t work like that. Her friends couldn’t have saved her from herself - it’s not their fault. It’s just a sad, tragic situation.

 

[ahtisyourself]

The pictures of her dressed in black after the incident, she looked absolutely lost! Very sad! I don’t deny what she did was terrible, but still very sad to end your life over it!

Yeah she looks destroyed in those pics. However (I’m well aware of how bad this sounds) I will never get over her decision to wear a short micro mini and leather knee high boots to court clearly she wasn’t thinking straight

 

[MonkeyTennis]

She took her own life.
I think that's the most unimaginable horrible place for anyone to be.
Famous or not.

 

[Snoopdog]

It’s all just so very sad. I don’t see what the point of the documentary was really, apart from her Mum trying to gain a bit of ownership over the whole thing for her daughter. I can imagine I’d feel the same. But I can’t imagine a world where my adult daughter is a suicide risk, and I haven’t gone to her and brought her to safety. Rightly or not, I get Caroline feeling as though she couldnt come back from this - her whole life was in the public eye and everyone knew her business. I can’t imagine how that would feel and I don’t know what I would do in that situation. I get panicky over forgetting to do a risk assessment for work, how would it feel if everything was taken from you and played out in public. I’m not defending Caroline because at the end of the day, she hit him regardless. But it’s just so sad that this was how her life turned out

 

[Coinkeedinkee]

Her court case would have been all forgotten about

Not that it should have been. Domestic violence should never be swept under the carpet.

 

[OnlyHereForTheLolz]

Frankly, I am getting the impression that it is you who is minimising domestic violence.

Is it hard to understand that what she had admitted to already qualifies as domestic violence?

Do you need the mental picture of an evil mentally deranged woman smashing a lamp over a helpless sleeping man to call it domestic violence?

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I don't know, I never tried "breaking skin" on someone's head, but if you are able to determine that it was not a phone, but a lamp, you can reach out to CPS to inform them, because they do not have this ability.

The reports said scratch and not scalp wound.

EDIT: So to finish this topic off (for me) I just asked ChatGPT if flicking or throwing a phone can cause an open wound and apparently yes it can, and it could even kill someone as apparently a phone is heavier than a bullet.
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You are very welcome to disagree with me, but I argue with facts, not silly GIFs. Sorry.

Also, it was CPS, not the "inquest legally".

Using ChatGP immediately makes me dismiss anything you say

 

[Begborrowsteal]

It was the mums chance to ask questions and make statements to those involved - of course she was going to be emotional. I cant even imagine the pain of losing a child. If she was screaming and roaring constantly, alright calm down, but it was her daughters inquest. She deserves a bit of slack.

Raising it from a caution to a charge was a bit weird, when the inspector said it was due to no admission of guilt.. but CF had repeatedly admitted it.

 

[sam0206]

I really don't think this documentary is a good idea at all. Caroline should be left to rest in peace now. It's dragging up a lot of unnecessary stories and I've seen a lot of hate for Caroline on tiktok etc calling her an abuser etc. I don't know the details of what down with her and Lewis, I don't want to or need to especially now Caroline has died, but it's not letting her rest in peace. It's bringing up so much negativity and she's not here to defend herself. A bad idea all round imo

 

[Persephonehasreturned]

I’m not disagreeing with you but I think it’s important to point out Harry was 17 and above the age of consent at the time and there was every indication, according to both the media and Harry himself, that he had a huge crush on Caroline for months and pursued her actively before they became a thing. Do I think Caroline had questionable judgment, being 32 years old and dating an older teenager? Absolutely. But I think the amount of hatred she received was disproportionate given they had what seems to be a very mutually respectful relationship. To this day Harry calls her his first real relationship/love and it doesn’t seem like she took advantage of him. I think Caroline definitely had her demons and she was probably emotionally immature if we look at her dating history but I don’t think she went into that relationship in a predatory way.

He’s not likely to say anything else but that now. I was the younger person in an age gap relationship for a long time. Was he truly my first love, yes. Do I think my ex was a predator, no. Do I think, being closer in age to his when he met me now, that his judgment was appalling and damaging for both parties - absolutely.

I think adults in their 30’s having relationships with older teenagers is a strong sign of significant emotional immaturity.