Caroline Flack

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It’s only ‘banter’ aye? Unless you’re on the receiving end
Who cares when you’re getting paid a mint though? Bit difficult to cry bullying when you happily take money for it week in week out. If it affected her that much, she had the option to walk...
 
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There's a little bit of madness in us all, and we manage to control it well, which is why we struggle sometimes to understand people who do too much of a normal thing to the point where it interferes with normal functioning.

The fact of the matter is however, that it does, and irrational behaviour isn't always conscious and rational thought. Those behaviours are protective, though destructive to those around them, but they've been practiced and perfected since childhood.

Everyone makes their own choices, like when we go out and get pissed knowing that we're going to suffer like duck the next day, but it's our choice. It's potentially irrational, but we choose to suffer.

Our choices however, are based on our experiences and developmental history, and those exeperiences shape the beliefs we have about ourselves, the world around us, and other people. Sometimes those beliefs are dysfunctional, but drive our behaviour nonetheless. Lots of that becomes automatic, habitual, and subconscious.
 
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That article makes for very interesting reading, she had been adviced to stay of social media yet didn’t... and it’s claimed she’d been having an emotional breakdown for a long time, and that she took responsibility for what happened that night but was not a domestic abuser.... Those two don’t correlate. The whole of the celebrity community is not looking at this objectively enough IMO
 
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Keith lemon promoting #bekind 😳 isnt Bo selecta where his career started? Which was basically him mocking various celebrities based on their imperfections and misdemeanors

The world is fu**ed. I want out
 
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He's said don't worry about him and he has the love of his girlfriend and close friends around him.

I think he's feeling a lot of guilt and rightly so. He more or less admits he put out that stuff about the NDA as he wanted to hurt her like she had hurt him and I don't think he means hurt in the physical sense but emotionally.

His blog was rambling..one minute blaming Journalists, the next the press, her management, her PR, the public then back to blaming himself.
He will feel guilty, her current boyfriend also feels terribly guilty. If people are abusive they often show a really wonderful side when you first get together or flip from one side to the other and people love that nice person, cling onto it. If abuse occurred it doesn't mean you stop loving that person but you could be angry too at the pain they've caused you.

The incident where Brady called the ambulance and she went to the papers about him is something he may still feel very aggrieved about. he was called vindictive in the national press but was actually concerned that she would kill her self. Instead of thanks she slurred his character and made him out to be an idiot who wasted emergency services time. She in effect made him out to be the abuser. How hurtful would that be when you were trying to save someone you loved? I also think this is one thing that her 'friends' are blatantly ignoring when they blame the press, or him - she used it to attack others. Maybe he wants to be heard even if some might see it as an inappropriate time... because in one sense, her suicide actually confirms he wasn't vindictive.
 
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Part of me feels like she was suffering from an undiagnosed personality disorder, something which stems back to childhood. My (unprofessional, most likely inaccurate) guess would be that she had Borderline Personality Disorder. Looking at her relationship history and behaviour, it seems to make the most sense. I just wish she got the help she deserved.
 
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That article makes for very interesting reading, she had been adviced to stay of social media yet didn’t... and it’s claimed she’d been having an emotional breakdown for a long time, and that she took responsibility for what happened that night but was not a domestic abuser.... Those two don’t correlate. The whole of the celebrity community is not looking at this objectively enough IMO
I agree, she didn't really take responsibility, saying you have is just paying lip service. She says near the start 'her world was swept away'. So her concern is for herself and paints the incident like being something totally distinct from her like a gust of wind that just came into the flat and started smashing things up! There's no apology to the boyfriend. At the end she says something about what her family and friends have been through...but still no apology. Unless she was told she couldn't mention him...I find it perplexing.

Part of me feels like she was suffering from an undiagnosed personality disorder, something which stems back to childhood. My (unprofessional, most likely inaccurate) guess would be that she had Borderline Personality Disorder. Looking at her relationship history and behaviour, it seems to make the most sense. I just wish she got the help she deserved.
I think so too, a personality disorder with impulsive behaviour and mood swings is more likely than having a decades-long breakdown.
 
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Part of me feels like she was suffering from an undiagnosed personality disorder, something which stems back to childhood. My (unprofessional, most likely inaccurate) guess would be that she had Borderline Personality Disorder. Looking at her relationship history and behaviour, it seems to make the most sense. I just wish she got the help she deserved.
I've mentioned this a few times on here. I read a review for her autobiography that mentions:

I felt uncomfortable with the inclusion of the letters from Kips as it seemed as though a personality disorder or learning disability was involved
 
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I've mentioned this a few times on here. I read a review for her autobiography that mentions:

I felt uncomfortable with the inclusion of the letters from Kips as it seemed as though a personality disorder or learning disability was involved
What's 'Kips' please? :)
 
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Keith lemon promoting #bekind 😳 isnt Bo selecta where his career started? Which was basically him mocking various celebrities based on their imperfections and misdemeanors

The world is fu**ed. I want out
Yep and Caroline Flack herself was involved with Bo Selecta and appeared in it regularly. Let's not forget this was a show that regularly mocked the appearance of Natalie Cassidy (Sonia in Eastenders) who at the time was a teenager and had never done the things Caroline Flack has been accused of. Where was the outrage and calls to be kind then?
 
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What's 'Kips' please? :)
I think it's a type of progress report at School

Yep and Caroline Flack herself was involved with Bo Selecta and appeared in it regularly. Let's not forget this was a show that regularly mocked the appearance of Natalie Cassidy (Sonia in Eastenders) who at the time was a teenager and had never done the things Caroline Flack has been accused of. Where was the outrage and calls to be kind then?
Plus Dawn O'Porter her VERY good friend has also been accused of bullying when she was at School (according to a review of her first book on Amazon!)
 
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Part of me feels like she was suffering from an undiagnosed personality disorder, something which stems back to childhood. My (unprofessional, most likely inaccurate) guess would be that she had Borderline Personality Disorder. Looking at her relationship history and behaviour, it seems to make the most sense. I just wish she got the help she deserved.

You're not alone in that thought. I have BPD,and whilst it's largely managed with meds and therapy, I can see shades of myself in her.
But I suppose a lot of people could say that, with or without a diagnosis.
 
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I’m amazed at some of the replies on here

you think sectioning needs looking at? You think you can section everyone who tries to kill themselves? I’m a nurse, we have people in Every night who have tried to harm or kill them selves.. some of these people try to attempt suicide on a regular bases. As long as someone has mental capacity, we stitch them back up and send them on their way again.

it’s impossible to section everyone who harms themselves or attempts suicide. There is NOT enough staff or bed spaces. Not only that but it’s illegal. You can’t just section someone. You can try and kill yourself whilst having full capacity. There is a reason why so many legislations are in place surrounding the MCA and sectioning. Where does it begin? Does my patient last night who self neglected need to be sectioned? Does the alcoholic who drinks 3 bottles of wine each night need to be sectioned because technically speaking he’s killing them self just in a very slow way.

you can’t just magic up thousands of extra staff, hospitals and bed spaces to look after all these newly sectioned patients. I mean this kindly but for those who have never worked in nursing etc you really do not understand the half of it.
The majority of patients who self harm/attempt suicide DO NOT need sectioning. You’ve got human rights to thank for that.
I’m wondering if the legislation around sectioning needs looking at. Caroline had tried to commit suicide the night before, the ambulance attended and couldn’t force her to seek help as she refused it.
No matter how much you play it off as you being okay, if you’ve attempted to OD and had to have an ambulance called for you, surely there should be some form of psychiatric intervention?? How was she not fitting the criteria for being a danger to herself and others??
I am exposing myself a little her but I do section people for a living I’m an AMHP and cases likes Caroline’s are very complex the poor girl should have had input from services weirdly her home adresss area is a mental health trust that is outstanding with the CQC if anyone wants aspects of the MHA explained ask away !
 
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Apparently the Met have referred themselves to the police watchdog. I can’t work out what for.
 
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I am exposing myself a little her but I do section people for a living I’m an AMHP and cases likes Caroline’s are very complex the poor girl should have had input from services weirdly her home adresss area is a mental health trust that is outstanding with the CQC if anyone wants aspects of the MHA explained ask away !
Is it possible she was offered help but said no thanks? She was well off, she could afford private health care. I would think then the problem is someone may pick the diagnosis they prefer or go to someone else when you don't like the treatment or think it's not working.
 
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