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I was in absolute LOVE with the whole 80s/90s shoegaze era that preceded Brit Pop. Ride, Lush, My Bloody Valentine, Cocteau Twins and The Jesus and Mary Chain to name a few. They just don't make music like they used to 😭
I absolutely love My Bloody Valentine, the Loveless album is one of my favourites. Its interesting how none of those bands tried to cash in on people's nostalgia like Blur, Primal Scream, Oasis etc etc. They were a bit too good and pure.
 
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JAMC got back together in recent years but I think they had been writing perhaps so not so much a cash in? I went to see them on the tour and it was so boring 😭 (I'd seen them loads before and it was always great).
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Ooh but also saw Primal Scream on the Screamadelica tour (the less said about recent revelations re: Duffy, the better), which probs was a cash in, but was glorious.
 
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Just to add my two-pennorth, I saw Ocean Colour Scene in (I think, can’t remember the year exactly) around 1998-ish and I thought they were tit 😆 They were like a local pub band. I also saw Kula Shaker the same year who were bleeping brilliant live (I know, I know 🙈 but they were!)
 
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JAMC got back together in recent years but I think they had been writing perhaps so not so much a cash in? I went to see them on the tour and it was so boring 😭 (I'd seen them loads before and it was always great).
JAMC are really hit and miss live. My H is a massive fan, and I am not especially. We saw Jim Reid solo ages ago at Night and Day Cafe (tiny) where I got a ticket on the door on the night! He was great and grumpy as you'd expect.
After JAMC reformed, I'd say they were really good/great about half the times we saw them, the other half, they kind of phoned it in.

ETA Jim's solo soundcheck was a hoot -
Jim: *Groans into mic* Yeah, that's fine. *wanders off backstage*
 
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Just to add my two-pennorth, I saw Ocean Colour Scene in (I think, can’t remember the year exactly) around 1998-ish and I thought they were tit 😆 They were like a local pub band. I also saw Kula Shaker the same year who were bleeping brilliant live (I know, I know 🙈 but they were!)
Oh I used to love a bit of Kula Shaker, no shame here 🤣
 
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Oh I used to love a bit of Kula Shaker, no shame here 🤣
Why would it be shameful? Because of cultural appropriation? Or wasn’t there something like a slight coquetterie with something Nazi, why they got canceled, even back then late 90s?
I quite liked their 2 hits, they were fun to listen to.
 
I think probs (prior to the Nazi stuff) as Crispian Mills was a bit of a cheesemeister more than anything else 🤣 K was a great album.
 
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I absolutely love My Bloody Valentine, the Loveless album is one of my favourites. Its interesting how none of those bands tried to cash in on people's nostalgia like Blur, Primal Scream, Oasis etc etc. They were a bit too good and pure.
Saw Blur play in 1992 in a long since closed venue called McGonagle's just off Grafton St., Dublin. The tickets cost 6 Irish Pound and 50 pence! Wish I still had the stub. I was always a fan of theirs. Leisure is a phenomenal album. Went off them a bit for Parklife. That whole Cockney lad style wasn't for me.

Hated Primal Scream with a PASSION. Moving on Up, Loaded and Rocks can get in the bin. Over rated, over played, over lauded rit. I'm still convinced the painful Bobby Gillespie is the long lost brother or even son of the equally painful Chrissie Hynde ( I don't care if she would have been only 10 when he was born). There's just no way they're not from the same gene pool.
 
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I think probs (prior to the Nazi stuff) as Crispian Mills was a bit of a cheesemeister more than anything else 🤣 K was a great album.
Yeah he was also a bit of a posh boy nepo baby, his mother being Hayley Mills (but I love Hayley Mills’ old films so I couldn’t resent it. And ofc HM is also a nepo baby). I think he’s a film director these days.
 
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Where did the Stove rumours come from though? Has anyone got proof of this?

As you can probably tell from my name i am also Mansun obessessed and Stove was so lovely infact they all were 😍 Apart from Andi who ruined my 7” skin up pin up vinyl by signing it.

I’ve got tickets to see Paul even though he is a sex pest because he is playing a gig in my city and i can’t not go
Something went on to make Draper extremely bitter...but then he comes across as quite a bitter bloke anyway. He made accusations in a magazine interview about why the band broke up but they were forced to retract it and apologise to Stove. I don't think he's gay - "You've Got No Life Skills Baby" is about his most recent break up I believe. He is teetotal now.

I've seen him on the Six tour. He has to read the lyrics from an iPad and while he is past his best I LOVED the whole set.
 
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Something went on to make Draper extremely bitter...but then he comes across as quite a bitter bloke anyway. He made accusations in a magazine interview about why the band broke up but they were forced to retract it and apologise to Stove. I don't think he's gay - "You've Got No Life Skills Baby" is about his most recent break up I believe. He is teetotal now.

I've seen him on the Six tour. He has to read the lyrics from an iPad and while he is past his best I LOVED the whole set.
I had read that the six tour was a bit of a tit show. One of the gigs was pure chaos wasn’t it, i vaguely remember him posting some rants and them being deleted?

I met them as a teen and they were always so lovely, Paul & Stove remembered me so i was totally lovestruck 😍

I feel that Paul has become the has-been from Special/Blown it
 
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Graham Coxon was quite notorious for being in the Good Mixer a lot, as many people know. He'd just sit on his own and didn't like people coming over to talk to him having recognised him. Probably not the best pub for him to be going into at the time if he didn't want to be recognised.
 
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I know you like Mansun. But Draper being abusive to The Anchoress is a bit of a twisty sour face situation. Especially as she apparently helped him get his solo album together.
Britpop Musicians. Just walk past. Don't make eye contact. Don't give them spare change because they'll only spend it on drugs etc
 
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I had read that the six tour was a bit of a tit show. One of the gigs was pure chaos wasn’t it, i vaguely remember him posting some rants and them being deleted?

I met them as a teen and they were always so lovely, Paul & Stove remembered me so i was totally lovestruck 😍

I feel that Paul has become the has-been from Special/Blown it
It was this one I think https://www.nottinghampost.com/what...aotic-shambolic-embarrassment-mansuns-1302046

He's utterly tragic (and perpy) these days, your last sentence is fairly fitting.
 
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I seem to remember that the Stove thing was one of those things sort of 'known' within the Mansun community and a quick google seems to bring up a bit of reference to it (and doesn't seem to have been denied by the others). My friend and I used to ring their phone number for fans thing and it was always him who replied 🤣
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I think Richey most likely died by suicide :(
There were stories like that about their first drummer, The Hib.

I saw Mansun a couple of times in the '90s and they were a good live band. Paul Draper had very little connection with the audience, sometimes performed with his back to us and almost never spoke, but the music was great and he could sing, so we let him off. Chad was a bit weird - I remember he was dribbling on himself at one gig - but Stove was always there with a cheeky wink or a smile. The first time I saw them, Embrace were supporting and they were crap. I think it was Rialto the second time and they were brilliant.

Super Furry Animals didn't really connect with their audience either. I found them overrated after seeing them live.

Another band that get written off are Shed Seven. They were brilliant live and always had good chat with the crowd. Echobelly too, and Longpigs.
 
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There were stories like that about their first drummer, The Hib.

I saw Mansun a couple of times in the '90s and they were a good live band. Paul Draper had very little connection with the audience, sometimes performed with his back to us and almost never spoke, but the music was great and he could sing, so we let him off. Chad was a bit weird - I remember he was dribbling on himself at one gig - but Stove was always there with a cheeky wink or a smile. The first time I saw them, Embrace were supporting and they were crap. I think it was Rialto the second time and they were brilliant.

Super Furry Animals didn't really connect with their audience either. I found them overrated after seeing them live.

Another band that get written off are Shed Seven. They were brilliant live and always had good chat with the crowd. Echobelly too, and Longpigs.
Thanks for the reminder. I wanted to bring up Super Furry Animals. Saw them in Vienna in about 2001, and it was one of the best gigs of my life. They were really intense, and the crowd was unbelievable. Gruff even ate the celery on stage for soundeffects, which Paul McCartney does on the record. We loved every minute.
I still find them quite an original and unique band with banging tunes.
 
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I never "felt it" with the Super Furries. I enjoyed their first album, but that's about it. I think they reminded me too much of older boys who told me I'd either get into house music or Fleetwood Mac when I was old enough to understand it. I'm in my 40s and both of those things are still crap. Sorry boys.

Did anyone here ever see Elastica live?
 
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I wonder what ever happened to Ritchie Edwards. Boyfriend of mine in the early 90s was a massive fan of theirs. He was gutted when Edwards disappeared.
Yes there have been reports of possible sightings in places like India hasn’t there , but I think sadly he probably whether intentionally, or not, died by the Severn bridge and his body hasn’t been found . So sorry for his family it must be agony not knowing 😞
 
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