I’m surprised she was public anyway while the trial is on.Are all their family’s lurking here because Claudia’s now gone private![]()
I’m surprised she was public anyway while the trial is on.Are all their family’s lurking here because Claudia’s now gone private![]()
They’re actually very close with the dad. And It’s because he’s got a really good brief. Nothing to do with repercussions on the family noone would touch the family that’s why he’s throwing them all under the bus because he knows he will get away with it. He’s essentially ‘grassed’ anyway.He probably has a close bond with his mum and sisters because of circumstances around his dad. Can’t imagine the dad playing a massive role in their lives. He’s the most believable out the lot, whether that’s cos he’s got a good brief and he’s been groomed or because he’s telling the truth. They all have to be careful what they say there’s an impression of protecting other people in all of this and he’s been honest about repercussions on his family.
as for some of the other stuff that’s come out about Lee , and the voice notes, I’m just gonna say it how it is, and before anyone comes for me, i have so much sympathy for Ashley, it’s extremely sad and she didn’t deserve to die especially in those circumstances, but the way she talked to her mates and her mates entertaining those conversations, there’s no way they didn’t know what Lee was doing and what he was dealing. Talking about bringing positive vibes to the home when god knows how many homes have been ruined as a result of the crack and heroin her fella was dealing.
And a shovel in his carHe conveniently had a balaclava in the car too![]()
They’re actually very close with the dad. And It’s because he’s got a really good brief. Nothing to do with repercussions on the family noone would touch the family that’s why he’s throwing them all under the bus because he knows he will get away with it. He’s essentially ‘grassed’ anyway.
---They’re actually very close with the dad. And It’s because he’s got a really good brief. Nothing to do with repercussions on the family noone would touch the family that’s why he’s throwing them all under the bus because he knows he will get away with it. He’s essentially ‘grassed’ anyway.
to be fair I think she’s thriving off it, I can’t possibly think why you would post pictures of your brother in the height of all of this. Surely to god you would want to keep your head down.I’m surprised she was public anyway while the trial is on.
Ah yeah it is the same guy!And a shovel in his car
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Looks like Ian has the same barrister that represented Cashman
And Cashman also acted like butter wouldn’t melt when he was on the stand. It must be how theBarrister briefs his clients to behave. Less scally more choir boyAh yeah it is the same guy!
I think he means he "didn't know he'd shot ashley"Not very clever witham, just said he didn’t know what he had done until the following morning, yet all the others report he came back that flat and confessed straight away. Cross examination will tear him apart.
Not holding up well at all. Prosecution are tying him up in knots! And what they’re saying makes sense, Ashley didn’t mention Witham once in all her messages it was all branch and zestHe’s not gonna hold on this stand he’s gonna slip up
“No I wasn’t lying. I was lying there” wish I was in the court to see him as he’s saying it![]()
Depends what Lees been telling her though, she’s made out on voice notes that he’s a saint who doesn’t want trouble and this is the same lad who wouldn’t even help with a investigation to her death. I don’t think he’d be telling her he’d robbed 30k and crack and stuffNot holding up well at all. Prosecution are tying him up in knots! And what they’re saying makes sense, Ashley didn’t mention Witham once in all her messages it was all branch and zest
Same here! I come on here and comment and wait for someone to comment back the other angle that I just haven’t seen. I’d be rubbish on a jury!Right I can never ever be called for jury duty, when I’m reading the echo feed it’s all sounding quite plausible (within reason) and then I have to come on here and see everything properly, like stuff I’ve completely dusted over.
One thing I did notice tho was Witham making out that Barry had made a show of him in the flat and he skulked out and was on one and went to Ashley’s, that shows that Barry has a hold over him to make him feel like that so to then say that Barry would be working for him if anything as he’s an older man, it doesn’t make sense.
Not sure if I’m making sense here.
Out of them all, I want that Niall Barry locking up, he’s the absolute worst of them![]()