Ashley Dale's murder trial

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He probably has a close bond with his mum and sisters because of circumstances around his dad. Can’t imagine the dad playing a massive role in their lives. He’s the most believable out the lot, whether that’s cos he’s got a good brief and he’s been groomed or because he’s telling the truth. They all have to be careful what they say there’s an impression of protecting other people in all of this and he’s been honest about repercussions on his family.

as for some of the other stuff that’s come out about Lee , and the voice notes, I’m just gonna say it how it is, and before anyone comes for me, i have so much sympathy for Ashley, it’s extremely sad and she didn’t deserve to die especially in those circumstances, but the way she talked to her mates and her mates entertaining those conversations, there’s no way they didn’t know what Lee was doing and what he was dealing. Talking about bringing positive vibes to the home when god knows how many homes have been ruined as a result of the crack and heroin her fella was dealing.
They’re actually very close with the dad. And It’s because he’s got a really good brief. Nothing to do with repercussions on the family noone would touch the family that’s why he’s throwing them all under the bus because he knows he will get away with it. He’s essentially ‘grassed’ anyway.
 
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Good morning

I’m sorry to break it to you but the “no one” would touch the family is the biggest load of tit I’ve ever heard, IF has already stated he’s been victimised by a gang of lads before, After all he’s just a mummy and daddy’s boy.

apparently so there is graffiti all over Liverpool saying IF is a grass and his mum and sister have bin going around the area trying to clean it off.

I wouldn’t procrastinate on these wild delusions, he has thrown Barry under the bus to try to cover his own tracks as to why he was supplying a knife to LH by the grasp of things.

they are all not seeing the light of day again in my opinion, to those saying there is no evidence on Ian are forgetting the phone call to witham after him leaving the flat is enough for the PC case to conclude it as a conspiracy.


They’re actually very close with the dad. And It’s because he’s got a really good brief. Nothing to do with repercussions on the family noone would touch the family that’s why he’s throwing them all under the bus because he knows he will get away with it. He’s essentially ‘grassed’ anyway.
They’re actually very close with the dad. And It’s because he’s got a really good brief. Nothing to do with repercussions on the family noone would touch the family that’s why he’s throwing them all under the bus because he knows he will get away with it. He’s essentially ‘grassed’ anyway.
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I’m surprised she was public anyway while the trial is on.
to be fair I think she’s thriving off it, I can’t possibly think why you would post pictures of your brother in the height of all of this. Surely to god you would want to keep your head down.

she clearly loves the attention - you can see that from a mile off.

probably doing it for the followers

I would hang my head in shame, some people 🙄
 
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Not very clever witham, just said he didn’t know what he had done until the following morning, yet all the others report he came back that flat and confessed straight away. Cross examination will tear him apart.
 
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Not very clever witham, just said he didn’t know what he had done until the following morning, yet all the others report he came back that flat and confessed straight away. Cross examination will tear him apart.
I think he means he "didn't know he'd shot ashley"
 
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He went back to his Nan’s but then decided to knock at Joe’s and go back to the flat because he had nowhere else to go? Why didn’t he just stay at his Nan’s?! His story has so many holes in it.
 
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Omg it gets worse. He did a wash at the flat. Like you do, on a Saturday night at your mates house while you’re all getting on it, do your laundry 😂
 
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I know I shunt laugh but fully grown adults talking about “The Hillsiders” 😂😂😂 it sounds like a rival youth club to Byker Grove😂 absolutely brain dead I tell ye
 
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Hang on he said yesterday he couldn’t hear Ashley screaming as he had a coat on with the hood up and a balaclava now he’s saying he didn’t have the coat on during the shooting. Need a good memory to be a good liar
 
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He’s not gonna hold on this stand he’s gonna slip up

“No I wasn’t lying. I was lying there” wish I was in the court to see him as he’s saying it 👀
Not holding up well at all. Prosecution are tying him up in knots! And what they’re saying makes sense, Ashley didn’t mention Witham once in all her messages it was all branch and zest
 
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Not holding up well at all. Prosecution are tying him up in knots! And what they’re saying makes sense, Ashley didn’t mention Witham once in all her messages it was all branch and zest
Depends what Lees been telling her though, she’s made out on voice notes that he’s a saint who doesn’t want trouble and this is the same lad who wouldn’t even help with a investigation to her death. I don’t think he’d be telling her he’d robbed 30k and crack and stuff
 
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Right I can never ever be called for jury duty, when I’m reading the echo feed it’s all sounding quite plausible (within reason) and then I have to come on here and see everything properly, like stuff I’ve completely dusted over.

One thing I did notice tho was Witham making out that Barry had made a show of him in the flat and he skulked out and was on one and went to Ashley’s, that shows that Barry has a hold over him to make him feel like that so to then say that Barry would be working for him if anything as he’s an older man, it doesn’t make sense.
Not sure if I’m making sense here.

Out of them all, I want that Niall Barry locking up, he’s the absolute worst of them 🤮
 
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Right I can never ever be called for jury duty, when I’m reading the echo feed it’s all sounding quite plausible (within reason) and then I have to come on here and see everything properly, like stuff I’ve completely dusted over.

One thing I did notice tho was Witham making out that Barry had made a show of him in the flat and he skulked out and was on one and went to Ashley’s, that shows that Barry has a hold over him to make him feel like that so to then say that Barry would be working for him if anything as he’s an older man, it doesn’t make sense.
Not sure if I’m making sense here.

Out of them all, I want that Niall Barry locking up, he’s the absolute worst of them 🤮
Same here! I come on here and comment and wait for someone to comment back the other angle that I just haven’t seen. I’d be rubbish on a jury!
 
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