We are living in strange times.what the fuck have I just read.
Sometimes...... the dictionary just has no appropriate wordsWe are living in strange times.
The flu vaccine obviously doesn’t do a good job then, in the UK all pregnant women are encouraged to get it. I did during my pregnancy and have a 2 year old now. Maybe I got a dud jabAnd yet more anti-vax propaganda. We’ve probably all seen the claims that the SARS-Cov2 vaccines cause fertility problems and miscarriages even in those who just come near vaccinated people and that this is part of a worldwide depopulation agenda. What better way to drive that home than to show that this isn’t the first vaccine to do that.
So out comes a 2017 article, written by ‘Jim Stone’ on a website called ‘The Unhived Mind’(*). Stone reports on research about a potential link between an influenza vaccine and miscarriages and he concludes that
“There is no way the flu vaccine is anything but an anti fertility vaccine, and I’d bet the kids who do get through pregnancy after their mom takes the jab have a hugely higher autism stat.”
The research quoted in the article by Jim Stone is by well respected scientists and published in ‘Science Direct’ which is considered to be an extremely reliable source. However to arrive at his conclusion Stone has to avoid the part that says:
“This study does not and cannot establish a causal relationship between repeated influenza vaccination and SAB (Spontaneous Abortion), but further research is warranted.”
Stone dismisses this conclusion by claiming that the research scientists are lying to cover up the real results but that he was too clever for them.
Anyway when I read the scientists had said that ‘further research is warranted’ my immediate thought is was that ever done? It sure was, by the same scientists and again published in ‘Science Direct’. Here it is …
Inactivated influenza vaccine and spontaneous abortion in the Vaccine Safety Datalink in 2012–13, 2013–14, and 2014–15
A recent study reported an association between inactivated influenza vaccine (IIV) and spontaneous abortion (SAB), but only among women who had also b…www.sciencedirect.com
The research concludes “During these seasons we found no association between IIV and SAB (Spontaneous Abortion), including among women vaccinated in the previous season. These findings lend support to current recommendations for influenza vaccination at any time during pregnancy, including the first trimester.”
It seems that people apparently so dedicated to ‘doing their research' and not like others simply copying what they see in the mainstream media are not able or more likely willing to spend five minutes finding out whether what they post stands up. I wonder why that is.
(*) More about ‘Jim Stone’ and “The Unhived Mind’ later
My previous post was about an article b ‘Jim Stone’ on the website of ‘The Unhived Mind’. I think they make an interesting case study of the sources used by those promoting conspiracy theories.
‘The Unhived Mind ‘ -
The Unhived Mind
The Unhinged Unhived Mind is a webshite and a cluster of defunct forums for anti-Catholic conspiracy theorists, run by Craig Oxley. Originally a forum hosted by InvisionFree, it has gone through a number of different incarnations.rationalwiki.org
‘Jim Stone’ is one of the pseudonyms used by James Heikkila, a long time conspiracy theorist
He claims to have been an NSA trained electronic warfare specialist but confusingly also appears to have worked for a steel manufacturer and after being made redundant tried, repeatedly and unsuccessfully to establish a career in music (apparently due to harassment by ‘the powers that be’)
He (of course) claims that he has knowledge that 9/11 was an ‘inside job’ and also that the explosion at Fukushima was a pre-emptive nuclear attack by Israel against a Japanese / Iranian nuclear plot.
He says that he was refused a US passport because he is an NSA whistleblower but the more mundane explanation seems to be that he owes child support from at least one of his 5 marriages.
At one point he moved to Mexico where he claimed to be on the run because the CIA and Israeli intelligence were trying to kill him but again it appears to be to escape arrest warrants for outstanding child support.
The most remarkable information I found when researching him was comments from one of his ex-wives (obviously I have no way of verifying if this is true but it makes interesting reading) …
“I am xxxxxxx Stone and I can assure you he is a narcissistic psychopath. He is absolutely fine with just sitting on his fat ass doing nothing and living off donations than working for his burgers. He is definitely NOT a Muslim as he claims ... he puts on any face and religion per needed to milk your wallet! Women are easier prey! Especially foreigner women who are not familiar with the American laws and systems so they easily fall for his lies. He HATES American women because they are evil (know too much to guarantee their rights !!). He is a natural liar. He lies about his education, jobs, ex-wives, arrests, ... etc. He claims Jews stole his diplomas (to hide his illiteracy). He claims his wife xxxxx took all his wealth and fortune in divorce settlement (to hide his laziness). He claims his ex-wife xxxxx was on drugs. It's always women's fault for the failure of a relationship with him. He is always right and he only takes but never gives back as it is his right after all the society, women, government ..etc have done to him !! He is wanted in more than one state for charges of child support, insulting the court, domestic violence and he is a fugitive in Mexico , most probably a parasite on a good-hearted Latina, exploiting her emotionally and financially. I feel sorry for all the hard working people who fall for his lies and donate !”
Ah, but did his peers and scientific agencies discredit and reject him because they are part of it and knew he was on to something? I bet he was about to lift the lid on something big!Just in case anyone has read the claim that those who have been vaccinated are all going to be dead within 2 years. I want to capture it for posterity.
A very cursory Internet search throws up this info about the scientist who made this prediction:
“It is surprising to have a scientist of Montagnier’s stature utter such questionable statements – although Montagnier himself is a controversial figure. Among other causes, he has supported anti-vaxxers, homeopathy and a silly claim that DNA emits “electromagnetic waves”.
As he lost credibility among his peers, scientific agencies around Europe began to reject his grant applications, and eventually he was left with no money to pursue his ideas. In a 2010 interview, Montagnier said he was leaving Europe to “escape the intellectual terror.” He added, “I’m no longer allowed to work at a public institute (in France). I have applied for funding from other sources, but I have been turned down.”
source: https://countercurrents.org/2020/04/luc-montagnier-and-covid-19-conspiracy-theory/
If you prefer a TLDR version it is:what the fuck have I just read.
Im totally up for accepting a free donut a day if everyone is dead in two years anyway.If you prefer a TLDR version it is:
Loony conspiracy theorist purposely draws wrong conclusion from scientific research in order to spread anti-vax propaganda. Other conspiracy theorists uncritically lap it up.
They don't want the vaccine but whatever they say to the contrary, they want to persuade other people not to have it too.I just saw the thing about everyone who has had the vaccine being dead within 2 years. I get so angry at people proudly blasting this bullshit around the Internet, seemingly unconcerned that they are essentially wishing death upon MILLIONS of people. Ugh. Just fuck off. If you don’t want the vaccine that’s cool - no one is forcing you to have it. They act so aggrieved that they are offered a free vaccination. In some countries you’d have to pay for the privilege of being tracked and killed off in 2 years
Yes, I've spoke with a few people who think we'll have an air bridge with the US come the middle of the summer due to the success of both vaccine programs. Their major success seems to be that they do have an abundance of the vaccine and are getting it out like lightning to those who want it - that being the problem - those who want it. There are states closing their vaccines centres this month due to lack of uptake. I don't see how we could have an air bridge with the US unless they look half way decently on track to reaching herd immunity too (70% of the pop I think this is roughly).Looking at comments about the vaccine on Tattle it's easy the get the vaccine risks out of proportion but I suppose it's also easy to get a skewed idea of the number of people refusing the vaccine too. Over 70% of the UK has been vaccinated at least once and demand doesn't seem to be slowing.
It seems that it might be much bigger problem in America where the rate of vaccination is falling not due to availability but due to take-up. Less than 50% of people have been vaccinated and given that everything in America seems to divide along political lines, I wouldn't be surprise to see that the split of people taking and rejecting the vaccine end up broadly 50 / 50.
This doesn’t surprise me given that the number of Flat Earthers and Doomsday Preppers in the US is probably higher than anywhere else in the world.Looking at comments about the vaccine on Tattle it's easy the get the vaccine risks out of proportion but I suppose it's also easy to get a skewed idea of the number of people refusing the vaccine too. Over 70% of the UK has been vaccinated at least once and demand doesn't seem to be slowing.
It seems that it might be much bigger problem in America where the rate of vaccination is falling not due to availability but due to take-up. Less than 50% of people have been vaccinated and given that everything in America seems to divide along political lines, I wouldn't be surprise to see that the split of people taking and rejecting the vaccine end up broadly 50 / 50.
I think your2 year prognosis might be significantly lower, but God you’d die happyIm totally up for accepting a free donut a day if everyone is dead in two years anyway.
Isn't this what the government and the press have been doing for over a year? Deliberate scaremongering re peoples risk of deathMy dad had the vaccine a few weeks ago. Now imagine if I were a vulnerable, gullible lass I'd be losing my shit thinking my dad's only got two years left.
Deliberate scare-mongering really grinds my gears, my opinion is that some people share this type of alarmist rubbish to get attention and make themselves look clever and not like the mainstream without thinking how damaging it can be to people who don't have anyone around them who will point out how ridiculous it is.
As I said, my opinion only m'lud.
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