Yes it seems they can't deal with her so they will ask you to. But what a plot twist! Go with your gut and don't be pressured to reply quickly.
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I don’t think you should base your decision on someone else’s experience in people management. Some people think they might not like it then once in the role actually enjoy it.
It seems to me they’re promoting you to keep afloat what seems to be a sinking ship. There will be a huge amount of pressure to resolve these critical issues. I’d think about it twice. The role will look great on a CV but the context seems a bit offputting.
I wish you the best of luck!
When the pets are making loads of noise and laughing at a video etc and making it hard to work and the managers won’t do anything/peers don’t express disapproval as it’s the pets 
Funnily enough it always seems to be the people with the least work to do that care about this social office stuff? And that includes the managers
Funnily enough it always seems to be the people with the least work to do that care about this social office stuff? And that includes the managers
The dreaded 'Hi Lola Ruby, how are you?' messages on Teams. Just tell me what you want FFS. Had 2 today already!
I appreciate the sentiment but you just know they're not interested in knowing how you are and sometimes it is just better to get straight into it!
Yes it just slows down getting to their final goal of them passing work off to you
Those who make a fuss about everything or chat tit, and it’s always bored managers. I just sneezed and some middle manager goes “Oooh that was a big sneeze! Are you a sneezer?” I mean what the hell just shut up and get on with your work 
Do a fart, let that speak for itself.Those who make a fuss about everything or chat tit, and it’s always bored managers. I just sneezed and some middle manager goes “Oooh that was a big sneeze! Are you a sneezer?” I mean what the hell just shut up and get on with your work
My manager is deluded.
He didn’t get his way with my new manager when he asked to keep me until end of January. She put her foot down and said protocol is 2-4 weeks max, so early December is the max she can allow.
Then, today he called her the B word saying and dared to say “Oh, you’re gonna be the one working with this B and you’ll probably want to come back into our team I’m sure”.
First of all, calling a woman a B because she refuses to agree to your unreasonable demands is disgusting and secondly, how dare he say I’ll ask to come back into this team?
Yeah, if I come back, it will be to lead the team when he gets demoted because he and I are at the same level now lol. I’m not coming back under him or his manager ever. I’d rather jump off a cliff.
My new manager has years of management experience and worked for top firms meanwhile he’s a brand new people manager at 50 with the immaturity of a 20 year old. She did her job by refusing to accept the unreasonable request. She acted as a proper manager and it’s nice to see strong female managers in the workplace. That’s part of the reason why I’m moving - to be exposed to strong female leadership.
He didn’t get his way with my new manager when he asked to keep me until end of January. She put her foot down and said protocol is 2-4 weeks max, so early December is the max she can allow.
Then, today he called her the B word saying and dared to say “Oh, you’re gonna be the one working with this B and you’ll probably want to come back into our team I’m sure”.
First of all, calling a woman a B because she refuses to agree to your unreasonable demands is disgusting and secondly, how dare he say I’ll ask to come back into this team?
Yeah, if I come back, it will be to lead the team when he gets demoted because he and I are at the same level now lol. I’m not coming back under him or his manager ever. I’d rather jump off a cliff.
My new manager has years of management experience and worked for top firms meanwhile he’s a brand new people manager at 50 with the immaturity of a 20 year old. She did her job by refusing to accept the unreasonable request. She acted as a proper manager and it’s nice to see strong female managers in the workplace. That’s part of the reason why I’m moving - to be exposed to strong female leadership.
I hosted a call today and right off the bat my manager hijacked the bat as if it were his call and said “I wanted to have the call to discuss blah blah” and monopolized the group call I suggested I schedule to discuss this project I’m initiating.
The call was my idea and I had a specific agenda. I scheduled it based on the work If done and he completely took ownership of it acting as if I was his secretary who had just scheduled the call to facilitate his life.
When the call finished, I politely told him I didn’t like the way the call was handled because I scheduled it with a specific agenda and I wasn’t even given the opportunity to speak. He monopolized from the first 30s, the call I organized and just asked me at the end “TheGlossy, any questions?”. Then when I confronted him, he was like “I was just trying to help”. He complained during my mid review I was the quiet one (which I’m not) and even when I give myself a platform to speak, they shut me down.
I was about to combust I had to tell him I didn’t like how this call was handled. If someone scheduled their own call with their own agenda, how dare you act as if you’re the actual host and say “I wanted to have this call to discuss XYZ” and relay theto attendee with no voice. He undermined me entirely.
He was shocked when I told him this to his face politely, but I had to. It was rude and unprofessional. At this point, I don’t care if it what I say lands well given the disrespectful BS I was put through in the last while.
Apologies … I feel I’m monopolizing this thread, but there is so much to complain about in this job. Looking forward to moving teams.
The call was my idea and I had a specific agenda. I scheduled it based on the work If done and he completely took ownership of it acting as if I was his secretary who had just scheduled the call to facilitate his life.
When the call finished, I politely told him I didn’t like the way the call was handled because I scheduled it with a specific agenda and I wasn’t even given the opportunity to speak. He monopolized from the first 30s, the call I organized and just asked me at the end “TheGlossy, any questions?”. Then when I confronted him, he was like “I was just trying to help”. He complained during my mid review I was the quiet one (which I’m not) and even when I give myself a platform to speak, they shut me down.
I was about to combust I had to tell him I didn’t like how this call was handled. If someone scheduled their own call with their own agenda, how dare you act as if you’re the actual host and say “I wanted to have this call to discuss XYZ” and relay theto attendee with no voice. He undermined me entirely.
He was shocked when I told him this to his face politely, but I had to. It was rude and unprofessional. At this point, I don’t care if it what I say lands well given the disrespectful BS I was put through in the last while.
Apologies … I feel I’m monopolizing this thread, but there is so much to complain about in this job. Looking forward to moving teams.
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They sound like such asshats. So pleased that you're on your way out!
My boss is such a twit. Just picks and chooses when to be nice or not. Absolutely cba with it! Grow up
Just exist 
everyone in my job is so nasty and vile, everyone acts as if they are above you and couldn’t ever possibly talk to you with a bit of respect. I am in a small team with literally just my witch of a boss, she’s left me out of any Christmas celebrations not to mention she’s horrid to me on a daily basis 🥲
said I had no life and there’s no possible way I have any sort of responsibility because I go to the gym, called me a giraffe and said I stand out like i sore thumb next to her last week
looks me up and down when I get in every morning and never speaks a word
there is also an old man at work who constantly harasses me and tells me if he was 20 years younger I’d be in trouble. Every day he comes up behind me and says something weird, always comparing me to his 12 year old daughter as she is also blonde with blue eyes and apparently has ‘gorgeous long legs like me’. Makes me ill
everyone in my job is so nasty and vile, everyone acts as if they are above you and couldn’t ever possibly talk to you with a bit of respect. I am in a small team with literally just my witch of a boss, she’s left me out of any Christmas celebrations not to mention she’s horrid to me on a daily basis 🥲said I had no life and there’s no possible way I have any sort of responsibility because I go to the gym, called me a giraffe and said I stand out like i sore thumb next to her last week
looks me up and down when I get in every morning and never speaks a wordthere is also an old man at work who constantly harasses me and tells me if he was 20 years younger I’d be in trouble. Every day he comes up behind me and says something weird, always comparing me to his 12 year old daughter as she is also blonde with blue eyes and apparently has ‘gorgeous long legs like me’. Makes me ill
That’s horrific. You know you you need to leave right? I don’t like to play into the women are witches trope, but if you are younger and attractive, some older women are playing out their envy at lost youth on someone else. I really hate typing that but I have had it happen to me, plus I have seen it happen to others. I am old now, but looking back at some of the treatment I had from older females was bullying, simply for existing and being younger than them. I used to make myself small and insignificant to stop it which didn’t work and psychologically is not good for you. They will still not like you because the of year you were born. Her comments sound unhinged and jealous. The excluding you out of Xmas celebrations is bullying for sure.Just exist
said I had no life and there’s no possible way I have any sort of responsibility because I go to the gym, called me a giraffe and said I stand out like i sore thumb next to her last week
there is also an old man at work who constantly harasses me and tells me if he was 20 years younger I’d be in trouble. Every day he comes up behind me and says something weird, always comparing me to his 12 year old daughter as she is also blonde with blue eyes and apparently has ‘gorgeous long legs like me’. Makes me ill
And then you have the older guy. Middle aged men can be foul around younger female employees. You really should tell this guy to stop bothering you, and make someone aware of what he, and your boss, are doing. You mention a small team but are you part of a larger organisation? Everyone is entitled to have dignity and respect in the workplace. The two unfortunates you are working with are behaving like bullies and harassers. If there is nobody you can call on internally, could you seek help from a union, or look on ACAS website for advice. But in all honesty, I would be looking for a new job.
Yeah completely agree with you, I also hate doing the whole women are witches thing but it’s so true in this case. She’s never managed before and is very immature and jealous in my opinion. I hate to sound rude but we are visibly very different, I don’t know if she is threatened or what but I have always put the most into my work and do everything I can to help her, I am a nice person
I never get a thank you or even an acknowledgment. The gym comment honestly made me so angry I had to leave the office to cool down because I was gonna lose it 
I go 4/5x a week which I’m sure is probably extreme to some people but i started for my own personal reasons and to help me get over tit, and it’s absolutely done that for me. It’s something I’m passionate about and keeps me sane so for her to take the piss on a regular basis and say I have no life ect really upset me. I feel like I can’t say anything because everyone seems to love her, they go off to the canteen ect and I’m usually eating at my desk because I don’t want to socialise with people like that. I’ve tried it and got ignored and stared at the whole hour I don’t know what it is about me which she hates so much, I feel like because I’m blonde wear makeup ect maybe I look typically ‘dumb’ she’s probably had this opinion formed of me before she even got chance to get to know me, I’m not an idiot and am very capable of doing my job. The Christmas stuff is getting on my nerves now aswell as they are all talking about how much fun it will be and how last years was so wild… bore off
how crazy Chloe got on the dance floor I really don’t give a flying duckthe old man is disgusting. He recently added me on Facebook and I have ignored it, it has now been followed by messages asking if I’ve watched certain tv shows ect? So I have shut my settings down on Facebook, I did also see that his daughter was brunette and not blonde which was weird. He asked me to go for breakfast with him this morning as he needs a ‘partner’, I declined and pretended I was on a call 🫣 this isn’t the only occasion things like this has happened, on business conferences my name has been brought up and I have received Facebook messages telling me these male colleagues were on about me (men in their 30’s) it is just bizarre. There is no way this is a normal working environment and has simply drained all the energy out of me tbh, i am so desperate to leave.
He sounds like a Grade A misogynist. Bet he doesn't do this to other men. Count down the days, TheGlossy!
There does seem an undercurrent of jealousy. And you know what, never do what I did, try to win them around by dumbing myself down, trying to put myself down, or dressing down to try and appease them. It doesn’t work, gives them the power, and makes you feel tit. Do the opposite, head high, wear your invisible crown, do your job and thank duck you are not them. The guy, I think maybe you need to put something in writing. You need to keep a diary now, out of sight of prying eyes and keep it to yourself, with times and dates of incidents, for both these idiots. If you can recall the dates etc when they have done everything already, stick it down. Hopefully there is someone who reads here from HR, who can advise of wording, but you need to send the man a desist email to stop him contacting you outside of work. If there are other men talking about you at work, there may be some sort of competition about who “gets” you and the older guy wants to be the top guy in the pack. Sounds dramatic but I have seen this at play before. The most unattractive and boring blokes, who think they have a chance with some young girl. They don’t really think they have a chance but guys never leave the schoolyard, and they are jostling to be the alpha. That’s a longwinded way of saying they are a bunch of childish dicks. I would be wary of forming any relationship with someone at work.Yeah completely agree with you, I also hate doing the whole women are witches thing but it’s so true in this case. She’s never managed before and is very immature and jealous in my opinion. I hate to sound rude but we are visibly very different, I don’t know if she is threatened or what but I have always put the most into my work and do everything I can to help her, I am a nice person
I don’t know what it is about me which she hates so much, I feel like because I’m blonde wear makeup ect maybe I look typically ‘dumb’ she’s probably had this opinion formed of me before she even got chance to get to know me, I’m not an idiot and am very capable of doing my job. The Christmas stuff is getting on my nerves now aswell as they are all talking about how much fun it will be and how last years was so wild… bore off
the old man is disgusting. He recently added me on Facebook and I have ignored it, it has now been followed by messages asking if I’ve watched certain tv shows ect? So I have shut my settings down on Facebook, I did also see that his daughter was brunette and not blonde which was weird. He asked me to go for breakfast with him this morning as he needs a ‘partner’, I declined and pretended I was on a call 🫣 this isn’t the only occasion things like this has happened, on business conferences my name has been brought up and I have received Facebook messages telling me these male colleagues were on about me (men in their 30’s) it is just bizarre. There is no way this is a normal working environment and has simply drained all the energy out of me tbh, i am so desperate to leave.
But really, find another job.
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Thank you so much. You’ve made me feel sane honestly, I haven’t really had anyone to discuss this with as my friends have all gone down different career routes so not all of them have experience in an office and I feel like you have to be in this environment to understand, otherwise it sounds a bit silly. I thought I was being over dramatic and it was all in my head a bit tbh because no one else seems to have an issue with her.
I did start to dress down and stop speaking aswell, I come to work and I leave. I used to dress so nice and make an effort now I just don’t give a duck, no one even says good morning most days so why would I bother. But I will start again, I’m not gonna let her ruin my confidence. And you’re right thank duck I’m not her, I feel for whoever has to be managed by her when I leave. I did discuss this with my nail lady a few months ago (massive oversharer lol) but she said definitely draft up an email along with my notice when I leave describing what I’ve been putting up with, or perhaps organising a meeting with my bosses boss as she is quite high up and won’t tolerate that I’m sure. I cant see them cutting into budget to hire someone new once I go if this is how she treats her team anyway.
ill take what you said on board and write down any incidents, thank you again
hopefully update when I have a new job!
Onwards and upwards to better things.
Glad to hear your new manager is taking no nonsense as regards release dates.
Your current manager will get in someone else, probably promise them the sun, moon and stars and then overload them with work like they did to you.
As an aside, I genuinely believe that from every crap situation I encountered in work, I learned something, unpleasant as the situation or the individual was, at the time.
Not easy lessons, but in the long run, valuable ones.
Yes, only do things for you. Dress up how you like. Most people offer an exit interview, perhaps that would be a good place to tell of your experiences. Play it by ear. Once you leave this place, leave it firmly behind. You can learn from every experience, and this has given you a taster of what is and isn’t acceptable or professional. And use the time you have left in that hole to learn as much as you can. If there are online courses. Are there any shadowing opportunities. Anything to help you basically either by learning new stuff or removing yourself from her orbit. Good luck with the job hunting. (Sorry, if I am going on, but when you go for interviews for new jobs, don’t badmouth this lot if they ask you why you are leaving your present job.)Thank you so much. You’ve made me feel sane honestly, I haven’t really had anyone to discuss this with as my friends have all gone down different career routes so not all of them have experience in an office and I feel like you have to be in this environment to understand, otherwise it sounds a bit silly. I thought I was being over dramatic and it was all in my head a bit tbh because no one else seems to have an issue with her.
I did start to dress down and stop speaking aswell, I come to work and I leave. I used to dress so nice and make an effort now I just don’t give a duck, no one even says good morning most days so why would I bother. But I will start again, I’m not gonna let her ruin my confidence. And you’re right thank duck I’m not her, I feel for whoever has to be managed by her when I leave. I did discuss this with my nail lady a few months ago (massive oversharer lol) but she said definitely draft up an email along with my notice when I leave describing what I’ve been putting up with, or perhaps organising a meeting with my bosses boss as she is quite high up and won’t tolerate that I’m sure. I cant see them cutting into budget to hire someone new once I go if this is how she treats her team anyway.
ill take what you said on board and write down any incidents, thank you again
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