Anna Rose #13 For someone who lifts weights so often she sure can't get a grip

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Question 4 (I think?? I've lost track)

“What is your minimum limit sexually with your partner?”

When Ryan is home, they have sex 2 - 4 times per day

“And also I've talked to Ryan because we are very active and sexually. And I have said, like, obviously when we have a baby, like we're already having these important conversations now. And I've said, you know, how are we gonna survive?

No, I've just said, you know, when the time comes that I, you know, we have the newborn and it's going to change the dynamic sexually in the beginning. Like, let's be real, it does not absolutely ever have to change it once you are well again and feeling nourished and healed and all the things. But I've said, rest assured, I will absolutely be asking and open to receiving like touch and massage and being held and being loved and being looked after by the masculine, including, like I've said, like bodywork and a back rub or my legs rubbed or whatever else, so he can feel.”

“Yeah, so much of the foreplay for a woman is what happens over the whole course of the day before it actually becomes the moment of being intimate. And when all of those needs aren't being met, like.

And that's like, this is a whole other episode because it's talking about that, like that's when we talk about the masculine and the feminine and how the feminine is so in her masculine and she is frustrated and exhausted and over it and turned off because she's in the masculine. She's having to protect to lead, to provide. So she's walking in the door and hubbies or boyfriends coming over to rub her back, looking for some doing the good, what is it, bad thing on the good foot, whatever.

And she's like, get the duck off me, which I totally understand. But then that's where we can have this whole conversation around what healing that looks like and the power of intimacy and the importance of intimacy and then getting polarity back into the relationship and allowing the king to become the king and leave the home so he can give more and you can receive more. So yes, there “there is absolutely no minimum”
 
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Question 4 (I think?? I've lost track)

“What is your minimum limit sexually with your partner?”

When Ryan is home, they have sex 2 - 4 times per day

“And also I've talked to Ryan because we are very active and sexually. And I have said, like, obviously when we have a baby, like we're already having these important conversations now. And I've said, you know, how are we gonna survive?

No, I've just said, you know, when the time comes that I, you know, we have the newborn and it's going to change the dynamic sexually in the beginning. Like, let's be real, it does not absolutely ever have to change it once you are well again and feeling nourished and healed and all the things. But I've said, rest assured, I will absolutely be asking and open to receiving like touch and massage and being held and being loved and being looked after by the masculine, including, like I've said, like bodywork and a back rub or my legs rubbed or whatever else, so he can feel.”

“Yeah, so much of the foreplay for a woman is what happens over the whole course of the day before it actually becomes the moment of being intimate. And when all of those needs aren't being met, like.

And that's like, this is a whole other episode because it's talking about that, like that's when we talk about the masculine and the feminine and how the feminine is so in her masculine and she is frustrated and exhausted and over it and turned off because she's in the masculine. She's having to protect to lead, to provide. So she's walking in the door and hubbies or boyfriends coming over to rub her back, looking for some doing the good, what is it, bad thing on the good foot, whatever.

And she's like, get the duck off me, which I totally understand. But then that's where we can have this whole conversation around what healing that looks like and the power of intimacy and the importance of intimacy and then getting polarity back into the relationship and allowing the king to become the king and leave the home so he can give more and you can receive more. So yes, there “there is absolutely no minimum”
Ahh motherhood. If she does have a baby, motherhood will slap her so hard in the face. I honestly don’t think there is any parent on this earth that would say their sex life went back to how it was before kids - especially having sex 2-4 times a day. Which tbh I actually find somewhat alarming. It’s either a lie, or there’s some kind of sex addiction going on.
 
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Ahh motherhood. If she does have a baby, motherhood will slap her so hard in the face. I honestly don’t think there is any parent on this earth that would say their sex life went back to how it was before kids - especially having sex 2-4 times a day. Which tbh I actually find somewhat alarming. It’s either a lie, or there’s some kind of sex addiction going on.
My first thought too - sex addiction.
Second thought - which one of them is addicted (sounds like her)?
Third thought - she said she blames herself for the sexual abuse she suffered as a child.
Fourth thought - she’s deeply, deeply, seriously troubled and in denial about how damaged she was and still is.
 
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Final one - this is back to Question 3: “Are you still planning to prosecute those terrible trolls and the ex?

“And then with the ex, so that's still a process that you even know, like I was on your bed crying about it yesterday. It's just a process. Like until I genuinely feel physically safe, which I don't know that I ever will, until I mean, I'm sure that I can and I will.

I'm undecided because when you are dealing with a narcissistic, violent man, when you, and this is why I'm going to have someone on the podcast and the expert, and I'll talk about my story when I feel like, not when I feel like, when I feel like the expert can offer advice on the spot to someone still in the situation, which I have women stop me on the street and disclose information, and then I help, you know, have to help set up safe plans for them. So I know with my platform and my podcast, if I start to tell my story and I'm a lucky survivor, I just don't want a woman to then try and do what I did, and it fail and she die, because I could have very well died that night. So I honestly thought I was going “to because he just disappeared, like a demon took over.

So it's just different with him in the sense that if I then start to prosecute and pursue the criminal charges of which the cop at the time, you were in the station said there's like several independent criminal charges that I could take against him. I'm antagonizing a narcissistic violent man. And what happened yesterday was I read the story about a girl in Australia, another one who walked outside of her gym and her ex was waiting for her and he stabbed her in the neck and the heart and the back or something, but three stab wounds to try and kill her and she's blessedly alive.

But I was sobbing on the bed to you and I was like, this is a genuine fear that I live with daily. Like, so, and criminally, yes, he could then go to jail, but right now, our court systems are fucked. And so most perpetrators could get five months potentially, but be let out after three on good behaviour in prison, and then he's back out on the street and I've pissed him off, I've bleeping put a criminal, so “so yeah, it's just, it is so multifaceted, but it's such a good question.

I'm glad you picked that one, because people have to understand the depth of DV and how so multifaceted and layered it is. And it's not, so when other women who sit back on the couch and go, I would never be in that, or which I understand, and or why doesn't she just press charges? Oh, because it's like, duck you, you think about your life every single day.

And do you want to like, do I then also want to sit in court and face him on day after day after day at trial?

No. Yeah, no one's going in there on your behalf to fight all of those fights for you. So you're constantly living in it all of the time when you've, you're still moving through it, but you have this beautiful life that is worth celebrating and worth living in, living in the present and living that, like to not miss the point of life and to sit in those environments.

Maybe that's the decision you choose to make and you'll be supported undeniably if that's the road that you go “down. But ultimately you have to be the one that's like, this is my fight and this is the hill I'm going to die on. And I am not backing down.

And I, this is my decision.

And on that, which I love. Yes. Thank you, Bestie.

Is what sprung up from that is it is my fight, but I've kind of taken that on board as like, it's my fight nationally. So when you got here, I was like, sis, I got my plan. You're like, what?

And I was like, I'm calling this senator's office. I'm going to call this senator's office. I'm going to ask them what lessons did they learn when they did this?

And I'm going to petition the government. I'm going to do, it's true, right? So this is, and I was like, just amongst all the other things.

So as much as like, will I potentially prosecute my ex? He has already been prosecuted with the VRO, which was really important. And the cops pushed this so hard for me.

We will do an episode on this because like the different, bigger than my story, like kind of the process of what I “what I went through, because I get so many questions as well, women coming to me in my inbox saying, what did that process look like? Because I'm in that and I want to get out of that, but I'm so terrified and I don't know where to start. I'm like, you get your bestie and you go to the cops.

But because also I had reached out when all of this was happening, because there was a good few months there where I was still very involved in your life and I had no idea what was going on. You told me when your lip got split, you told me you got hit by a basketball or something. And I was like, okay, yeah, sure.

You probably were out playing basketball one day. Like I'm not with you every day.

She was not playing basketball.

And then when it happened, I was like, oh, we're doing this and we're doing it now. And unfortunately, I had another one of my best friends have gone through this before and have had to flee the other side of the country. And so I rang her and because she had had someone “that helped guide her on what to do.

And so she was the one that told us to go down that path, which was phenomenal because it wasn't Anna Rose versus the ex. It was Anna Rose. It was Queensland Police versus the ex, which is the best position that we were told to be in.

And it was, it ended up being the best. So we'll do a whole other set on that. But no, so it is a fight for me.

And I think the fight now is not, I think, the fight now for me amongst all of this, and I'm still in my decision-making process, is I want to petition the government, and I have to do it very like smartly, which is like reopening inquiry, I think, into, because like I could go before a judge. This is my piss off. I could go before a judge and it could go to trial, but that judge and police officer and like, and policy, everyone involved could be a violent sex offender or be a man that is angry and violent towards women.

And so be like, you know, in his head, in the back “in the back of his head, be like, so what? You know, this happens every day. Like until you've been in court and you've dealt with judges and police officers, you cannot imagine the level of insanity that ensues

And so there is currently a list of 28 high profile judges, police officers, and even an ex prime minister in a suppressed list. They're pedophiles, ultimately. They're men that have committed violence towards women.

I want those men publicly outed and drained from the court systems and the police systems. Then let's see what I do. So that's my fire.”
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What does she mean it was her fault? She was a CHILD?! I need some context here because without context this sounds very alarming.
NOTE : Discussion of child sexual abuse below

Here's the transcript of her answering the question for context

“Look, I've got another really deep question here.

Okay, let's go.

And I just think while we're in this conversation, let's just go there. And then we can maybe start to come into some some light. Do you ever blame your parents for your sexual abuse as a child?

You really picked the spicy ones. We love you. Absolutely not.

No one's ever actually asked me this question. Absolutely not. And I can unequivocally say with every cell in my being, even as a child, no, I never...

And I can talk about it again. We'll have to put a trigger warning at the front of this. I feel like I just come with the trigger warning.

Don't come to Anything Goes if you ain't ready for it.”

“But when I was younger as well, what happens in my experience anyway, and I have spoken to many women who have also experienced sexual violence towards them, is that you carry the shame. And why we don't really speak about it is because we carry so much shame. So my journey and experience with being a child that had been assaulted for 10 years, ultimately, I never spoke up.

So I blame myself. I didn't blame my parents. Now, I actually thought...

I've done a whole episode on this. And so if you've listened to that, you know my story. But at one point, I was convinced that this was just normal.

This is just how it goes. I am always unsafe. My parents would have to know.

My dad was not in my life. It was my evil stepfather and my beautiful mum. But yeah, I just was like, they must know.

So I just... At one point as well, and I still never blamed them. I was never like, this is their fault.”

“I was like, what fucked me up for several steps, like until my adulthood, until I healed it, was like, why didn't I say anything? Right? And that was, I was, I held so much shame around that.

And so...

Because you're a child with an underdeveloped brain. Correct.

Yeah, we'll put that there. Yeah, but also you're threatened. You're coerced.

Yeah, it becomes normal. He was, he groomed me since I was a newborn. So groomed my mum and then got access to me.

So no, I didn't. That's such a beautiful, beautifully heartbreaking question to ask. And for me to heal all of that, so go back and listen to the podcast I've done on that.

But if that's something, if that question was asked because, or if you are yourself, someone that does still hold anger or resentment towards someone else, it is honestly that whole quote of like, it's like drinking poison still and expecting the other person to die. So for me with all of, yeah, that's how I envision it as well. So it's like you're drinking the poison.

So it's poisoning your insides, your soul, your mind, your body, but doing it because “it because you're angry at them. And it's like they've hurt you, parent, abuser, whatever, and expecting them to die. So I just went to the side of the wound, which was my wounds, and healed it all.

So I don't hold resentment even now, or anger or hurt. Good question.”
 
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What does she mean it was her fault? She was a CHILD?! I need some context here because without context this sounds very alarming.
You're not wrong to be alarmed.
From what I could decipher from her drivel- She basically said it's not her parents fault because she (as a child) didn't speak up for herself. And that's baby Anna's duck up.
She seemed to think this belief was like.... Some kind of "radical responsibility" nonsense. It really didn't make any sense, it's completely bizarre and harmful. Just bleeping wild.
It smacks of narcissism somehow I just can't put my finger on it.
I hope this part of the podcast never finds the ears of anyone who might be tempted to take her seriously who has also experienced CSA
 
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Timelines were a little funky for me. I’ll have to double check tomorrow but it sounded like she first said

1. Her and Trent first started talking in July, didn’t meet for a few months later - she said her and morgs broken up 26th March. And that there was lots of dms with Trent for months, then she later said she first met physically with Trent in July.

2. The split lip occurred in September - they then went to a wedding in WA in dec - she went to the police in Jan for VRO after Trent started outing her online.
 
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What does she mean it was her fault? She was a CHILD?! I need some context here because without context this sounds very alarming.
(Reposting as this got added to the end of my previous post, which was a transcript of an answer to one of her questions, that was veeeerrryyyy lllooonnnggggg, so I don’t blame anyone for not reading through until the end)

**** WARNING : discussion of child secual abuse follows*****

Here's the transcript of her answering the question for context

“Look, I've got another really deep question here.

Okay, let's go.

And I just think while we're in this conversation, let's just go there. And then we can maybe start to come into some some light. Do you ever blame your parents for your sexual abuse as a child?

You really picked the spicy ones. We love you. Absolutely not.

No one's ever actually asked me this question. Absolutely not. And I can unequivocally say with every cell in my being, even as a child, no, I never...

And I can talk about it again. We'll have to put a trigger warning at the front of this. I feel like I just come with the trigger warning.

Don't come to Anything Goes if you ain't ready for it.”

“But when I was younger as well, what happens in my experience anyway, and I have spoken to many women who have also experienced sexual violence towards them, is that you carry the shame. And why we don't really speak about it is because we carry so much shame. So my journey and experience with being a child that had been assaulted for 10 years, ultimately, I never spoke up.

So I blame myself. I didn't blame my parents. Now, I actually thought...

I've done a whole episode on this. And so if you've listened to that, you know my story. But at one point, I was convinced that this was just normal.

This is just how it goes. I am always unsafe. My parents would have to know.

My dad was not in my life. It was my evil stepfather and my beautiful mum. But yeah, I just was like, they must know.

So I just... At one point as well, and I still never blamed them. I was never like, this is their fault.”

“I was like, what fucked me up for several steps, like until my adulthood, until I healed it, was like, why didn't I say anything? Right? And that was, I was, I held so much shame around that.

And so...

Because you're a child with an underdeveloped brain. Correct.

Yeah, we'll put that there. Yeah, but also you're threatened. You're coerced.

Yeah, it becomes normal. He was, he groomed me since I was a newborn. So groomed my mum and then got access to me.

So no, I didn't. That's such a beautiful, beautifully heartbreaking question to ask. And for me to heal all of that, so go back and listen to the podcast I've done on that.

But if that's something, if that question was asked because, or if you are yourself, someone that does still hold anger or resentment towards someone else, it is honestly that whole quote of like, it's like drinking poison still and expecting the other person to die. So for me with all of, yeah, that's how I envision it as well. So it's like you're drinking the poison.

So it's poisoning your insides, your soul, your mind, your body, but doing it because “it because you're angry at them. And it's like they've hurt you, parent, abuser, whatever, and expecting them to die. So I just went to the side of the wound, which was my wounds, and healed it all.

So I don't hold resentment even now, or anger or hurt. Good question.”
 
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(Reposting as this got added to the end of my previous post, which was a transcript of an answer to one of her questions, that was veeeerrryyyy lllooonnnggggg, so I don’t blame anyone for not reading through until the end)

**** WARNING : discussion of child secual abuse follows*****

Here's the transcript of her answering the question for context

“Look, I've got another really deep question here.

Okay, let's go.

And I just think while we're in this conversation, let's just go there. And then we can maybe start to come into some some light. Do you ever blame your parents for your sexual abuse as a child?

You really picked the spicy ones. We love you. Absolutely not.

No one's ever actually asked me this question. Absolutely not. And I can unequivocally say with every cell in my being, even as a child, no, I never...

And I can talk about it again. We'll have to put a trigger warning at the front of this. I feel like I just come with the trigger warning.

Don't come to Anything Goes if you ain't ready for it.”

“But when I was younger as well, what happens in my experience anyway, and I have spoken to many women who have also experienced sexual violence towards them, is that you carry the shame. And why we don't really speak about it is because we carry so much shame. So my journey and experience with being a child that had been assaulted for 10 years, ultimately, I never spoke up.

So I blame myself. I didn't blame my parents. Now, I actually thought...

I've done a whole episode on this. And so if you've listened to that, you know my story. But at one point, I was convinced that this was just normal.

This is just how it goes. I am always unsafe. My parents would have to know.

My dad was not in my life. It was my evil stepfather and my beautiful mum. But yeah, I just was like, they must know.

So I just... At one point as well, and I still never blamed them. I was never like, this is their fault.”

“I was like, what fucked me up for several steps, like until my adulthood, until I healed it, was like, why didn't I say anything? Right? And that was, I was, I held so much shame around that.

And so...

Because you're a child with an underdeveloped brain. Correct.

Yeah, we'll put that there. Yeah, but also you're threatened. You're coerced.

Yeah, it becomes normal. He was, he groomed me since I was a newborn. So groomed my mum and then got access to me.

So no, I didn't. That's such a beautiful, beautifully heartbreaking question to ask. And for me to heal all of that, so go back and listen to the podcast I've done on that.

But if that's something, if that question was asked because, or if you are yourself, someone that does still hold anger or resentment towards someone else, it is honestly that whole quote of like, it's like drinking poison still and expecting the other person to die. So for me with all of, yeah, that's how I envision it as well. So it's like you're drinking the poison.

So it's poisoning your insides, your soul, your mind, your body, but doing it because “it because you're angry at them. And it's like they've hurt you, parent, abuser, whatever, and expecting them to die. So I just went to the side of the wound, which was my wounds, and healed it all.

So I don't hold resentment even now, or anger or hurt. Good question.”
Thanks for clarifying @DunningKrugerEffect and @KrittyKat.

Wow. Wow. Wow. I have no words. Well of course I do…No one is responsible apart from the perpetrator. She was a CHILD FGS! Is she now as an adult trying to elevate herself above other survivors by saying she is more “healed” because she can take responsibility? 🤯
 
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My first thought too - sex addiction.
Second thought - which one of them is addicted (sounds like her)?
Third thought - she said she blames herself for the sexual abuse she suffered as a child.
Fourth thought - she’s deeply, deeply, seriously troubled and in denial about how damaged she was and still is.
I think promiscuity and sex addiction are often found in victims of child SA, when they become adults. It’s about totally controlling the experience to allow no chance of ever being abused again. The fact she’s turned it into a profitable venture (well a venture) is pretty wacka doo.
 
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Wow her CSA experience explains a fkn lot about her now… none of us believe you’re healed from that Scamma. You would not be behaving the way you do if you were healed from that trauma.

If she wasn’t a scamming, deceitful fktard I would feel some empathy for her because repetitive CSA and not being safe… ever…. would do some significant damage to one’s internal beliefs about self.

Too bad her treatment and scamming of others overrides any of those feelings of empathy to be possible for me.
 
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Wow. That was a lot. She is too much.
She talks so casually about her CSA it's quite odd. You never fully heal from it and I wouldn't be surprised if the amount of alcohol she drinks is a coping mechanism for the trauma. I could write so much more on this whole thing but I won't.

She is so fake and 100% the pick me girl. Her outfits lately, while giving me a good laugh, are just NOT it. 🤢😂
 
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I think promiscuity and sex addiction are often found in victims of child SA, when they become adults. It’s about totally controlling the experience to allow no chance of ever being abused again. The fact she’s turned it into a profitable venture (well a venture) is pretty wacka doo.
Yup! Not to get too deep but it’s an interesting thing, the concept of some people taking back control of their sexual experiences to an almost extreme degree. I knew of a few of people in my social circle who are deep into BDSM and alternative fetishistic lifestyles, and quite vocal about it. They didn’t know each other but I realized that the common thread between them was that all three of them had also talked about how they had suffered sexual abuse as children. I thought, well that’s quite the coincidence, and it would make sense that it could be an attempt to work through a feeling of powerlessness re:their sexuality. I have since done some casual reading on the subject whenever I come across interesting articles and it has confirmed that that is basically the premise. Not everybody of course but it is not uncommon. I don’t know anything about sex addiction but that also would make sense that it would have a similar trajectory.
 
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Thanks for clarifying @DunningKrugerEffect and @KrittyKat.

Wow. Wow. Wow. I have no words. Well of course I do…No one is responsible apart from the perpetrator. She was a CHILD FGS! Is she now as an adult trying to elevate herself above other survivors by saying she is more “healed” because she can take responsibility? 🤯
This is the part that is so, so heinous (and I say this with the awareness that her malignant narcissism was most likely a coping mechanism stemming from her childhood abuse). She is elevating herself and condescending, as per usual.
Even non-experts know that the insidious trauma from childhood sexual abuse is not healed by navel gazing for a couple of years. It is usually a lifelong pursuit and requires the guidance of a trained professional. The fact that she wants to give the impression that A.) she is healed and B.) that she healed herself, is so on brand for her and bleeping dangerous.

Her message is that she could do that because she is super human and better than everyone else. If you can’t do that well then you need to follow her for her wisdom that only she can impart. It’s a kick in the gut to other survivors. Not to mention just chock full from beginning to end with misinformation. (Like making the disgusting statement that it’s a child’s fault for not speaking up).

Honestly, I’ve never seen anyone who requires intensive psychotherapy more than Anna. Everything about her is unhealed and has mutated into serious toxicity. Her social media presence is a menace to society.
 
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Radical self responsibility, that’s her thing, right? Because if you can’t find peace by working with other people (therapists), then what choice does she have but to take it all on herself and just control the narrative (internal and external) completely, in this extent also making it her career. She’s white knuckling it.

This is why, I think, she also talks about a baby being ‘a priority, not the biggest priority’, getting an au pair, needing to wait until her BEstIeS are also having babies at same time (she ‘jokingly’ talks about getting her back up if she find out one of them was trying without letting the group know), so she has a network of support when she has a baby (given she doesn’t have any pre MLM friends). It’s aaaalllllll about control and about fear and duck me if there’s one thing you can’t control it’s a small human, or two if the voices she’s hearing are right 🫠
 
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I truly hope she can’t have children. No child deserves the life they would have to endure with Anna as their mother. She is a deeply damaged human.
 
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