Where's Waldo?
Bookmarking this for thread title time.I’m not familiar with the saying but I have heard: kiss an Alice Evans gruff & you’ll spend years feeling rough
I'm not sure but I keep thinking it was the "new daddy" fight. It was "the birthday" when she called Ella a witch.It might have even been Ella’s birthday…there’s two videos that we’ve not seen but the transcripts exist. I just can’t remember if it was the ‘birthday’ or the ’new daddy’ one
How doesn't she undestand that those glasses are completely the wrong fit for her face? The pupils should match to the centre of the lens and the lenses shouldn't touch the cheek. The upper rim should be close to the eyebrow, but not above. Not rocket science.
Yep. You’re correct, it’s the new daddy one. You reminded me with the witch. Wasn’t it bleeping witch too? She’s such a piece of titI'm not sure but I keep thinking it was the "new daddy" fight. It was "the birthday" when she called Ella a witch.
Did she say “you can support me or you can duck off”? Holy tit
Is she wearing this top backwards?
It’s amusing that she ’s at comments about other people’s noses … when she paid for this one. Now that’s
Those nostrils look...ahem... well worn.It’s amusing that she ’s at comments about other people’s noses … when she paid for this one. Now that’s
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Thanks @Hiraeth
FFS USE A TRIPOD!!!! Omg. The camera shaking.are you refering to the cameo? i thought the same thing!
she also mentions two other cons she hopes she will book. Epic which is actually a okay con, that's the one her minion tried to campaign her in.
I dont mention her looks...
This is why I keep arguing when people post that the kids need to be punished because they know right from wrong. Maybe. On some deep level they do. But coercive control is something you just can’t fully grasp until you’ve seen it or experienced it. I was in a coercive control relationship with a narc. You forget how to think for yourself because you’re not allowed to. You may know right from wrong … but what your abuser says supersedes it and will make you question yourself constantly. It’s insidious.Imo she knows exactly what she's doing. She is deliberately breaking down every single part of those girls, dismantling their self-esteem, their self-confidence, their self-worth, their sense of security and stability, and most importantly their trust in themselves to know the truth, both of themselves and of life in general. She is making them completely emotionally and psychologically dependent on and enmeshed with her, so that they will never question or criticise her and that they will never have the courage to leave her. She is instilling so much fear and self-loathing in them in the hopes that they will never trust themselves enough to know they can survive and thrive without her. She wants them to be broken down little dolls whose whole lives will revolve around her.
Hey, hey, Alice -- eBay also sells tripods... just sayin'... all sizes - even for table top.FFS USE A TRIPOD!!!! Omg. The camera shaking.
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The articulation with which Ella called out Alice always gives me hope that Ella has moments of clarity and will get through this terrible period in her childhoodThanks @Hiraeth
This is so bleeping sad. How her FM's can look at this and defend her, justify this behaviour, and claim she's a good mother truly disgusts me.
Kids love coffee shops, bet they were delightedI took the kids to a coffee shop less than a mile from my house. And out for a drive. Actually maybe both things were done together and she drove the 0.7 miles. Two outings in one.
This is Alice "doing stuff" with her kids.
duck Disneyland.
I'm a grown adult with previous experience of narc relationships, and I've been on these Alice threads almost since the beginning, but I've only just realised in this last year that my mother is probably a covert narc. I've had lifelong depression from child SA and before now I was just too depressed and it wasn't emotionally safe for me to see the truth. But even now, KNOWING what she is doing, catching her out in obvious lies, I still sometimes find myself questioning things and doubting myself. It can be so subtle and like you said, SO insidious. And kids have to be taught what's right and wrong, they don't just magically know it as they get older. Alice has never taught those kids right from wrong, she isolates them as much as possible and her own behaviour will be teaching them wrong is actually right. You learn what you live, and that's not even factoring in the multiple and complex factors of grooming, gaslighting, abuse, the mother-daughter bond, etc. It's not this simplistic black and white thing that Ella is 14 and she should know better and do better. She's trapped in an environment where it's not safe for her to go against her mother and she's been brainwashed into believing her father doesn't want her.FFS USE A TRIPOD!!!! Omg. The camera shaking.
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This is why I keep arguing when people post that the kids need to be punished because they know right from wrong. Maybe. On some deep level they do. But coercive control is something you just can’t fully grasp until you’ve seen it or experienced it. I was in a coercive control relationship with a narc. You forget how to think for yourself because you’re not allowed to. You may know right from wrong … but what your abuser says supersedes it and will make you question yourself constantly. It’s insidious.
She’d still find a way to use social media even if she was in a strait jacket. She’d download an app to communicate with her phone by eyeball movements so she could keep on sockin’!And another dreadful outfit. is it on back to front or just badly cut whichever way round you wear it.
The cut sort of has a straightjacket look about it.