Alice Evans & Ioan Gruffudd #241 Bianca and Ioan explore Seattle while Alice keeps refreshing Tattle

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•Alice continued her charm offensive, saying she was finally back again
•Alice managed 2 more DM articles and one was written about Bianca
•Alice stopped posting the girls on insta and went back to old or highly filtered pictures
•Bianca and Ioan are in Seattle for an event
•Alice booked a con in New Orleans and has intimated that there may be some more bookings to come
•Bianca made another reference to Alice’s bullying, this time in reference to an ex-friend whom we believe to be Lin
•Alice has made several more cheap shots about tattle
•Bianca is not shying away from posting happy pics of she and Ioan in Seattle
•Seattle and the posts that Bianca is posting on insta caused Alice to crack
•Last night we had appearances from Real Alice, Tony, a sock and even Loopy chimed in with a cheap shot about Bianca’s career (lol @ the irony)
•Bianca posted a video replying to questions about MS awareness week
•Roma Downey shot B some love
•Appears I and B have moved
•Alice is cosplaying Bianca from the kindness to the candour about skin issues
•Bianca made an important distinction with regards to her approach to her diagnosis. She of course would change things if she could and does have bad days, but she does have MS and is going to live and love her life regardless (I paraphrased)
•Court next week
Brilliant summary! My memory's so tit I tend to forget half of what's happened in any given thread. But then when Alice is Alicing it's hard to keep up!
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It's pretty clear this is the former friend who is now speaking out against AE. Didn't this person at one time mention providing IG with evidence? I thought I saw that on Twitter/X. Perhaps it was a screenshot posted here from the FB group. 🤷🏼‍♀️


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I think Lin mentioned it, but we weren't sure, given her and Deb's public posts, just how much she would have shared because it definitely did not show the two of them in a good light. But from Bianca's comment it seems she has shared all the emails between them and Alice, which I would assume also include Alice's plans for co-ordinated public attacks on YoBee by the FM's. Many would say it's the least she could do, but given she seems to need that validation and approval of YoBee, it was brave and generous of Lin to share every thing.
 
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Just so beautiful and peaceful. A world away from the Abuser’s nonsense.
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So do most of the people who know the Abuser.
I love that B has demoted her from “Ioans ex” to “our abuser”, she must be absolutely hating that
 
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I wonder if she will claim to have epididymitis one day? It's not well known and sounds painful.
$26 she's googling it right now!
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I am a strong believer that while you can be groomed to be attached to a horrible person just a very small extend of bad actions you make for them can be put solely on that (i.e. i think Ioan is a good example, the letter is the worst he did, and Alice was clearly upset that he didnt do more, even against his own mom). I think neither Tone, Lin nor Loopy or many of her followers (and tbh also Ella but she has the excuse to be raised and weaponised by said abusive person) can be excused for this. for that they have been way too cruel from a humanity standpoint.

I actually would put the late Deb into that category. She was brainwashed by Alice until some point, but clearly more nuanced.
Like all abusers, manipulators, grifters, etc, I think she attempts this grooming and manipulation on every one she comes across, but it works better on more vulnerable people. If you are emotionally/psychologically healthy in yourself and have healthy relationships with strong boundaries, you might believe her stories at first, sympathise with her, defend and support her, but the more you see of her vile behaviour the more you will be shocked and then repulsed by her. Where as if you are someone who is already disenfranchised, angry, bitter, scared, a people pleaser, empathic, just someone who believes the best in people and always gives second, third, fourth chances, etc, you are more vulnerable to be taken in by an Alice. But when she shows her true colours, it's the people who frankly are pretty emotionally fucked up who stick around, who take pleasure in that kind of cruelty and abuse because it's a way for them to vent their own anger, bitterness, fears. Alice is a cancer, her own behaviour brings out the worst in people who are already fucked up, and she gives them a platform and validation to give in to their own worst feelings and impulses, and to feel self-righteous while they are doing it. Like Trump, it makes her a dangerous predator because she creates a world where it's OK to lash out and use and abuse others on the justification that they have hurt you, or they owe it to you, but her followers also have to take responsibility for their behaviour, because they already have to feel that way inside themselves.

Sorry @welp, that was a whole lot of word salad to basically say I agree with you! 😂
 
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I'm guessing it will be the premeditated plan to parental alienation and ruining the girls relationship with their Father that will be useful to the court.
Not to mention Alice's need to boast like an evil (stupid) cartoon villain so she would have bragged to them about her nefarious plans, both her online actions and irl. Those emails could hold a lot of important information on a whole host of Alice's antics, maybe not anything that could be factually proven in a court of law, but definitely proving that her behaviour is calculated, that she knows exactly what she's doing, that the parental alienation is deliberate and that she is working with FM's to co-ordinate the abuse of YoBee. Maybe even a clue to the money trail.
 
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Did it already get noticed that Bianca is following Andrea Burkhart? Lol
Eta and AB following BW
 
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The extent to which people can be groomed is incredibly underestimated. It is not just about people who vulnerable to this, the young and the lonely. Entire populations have undergone collective grooming. Isolation is an easy first step, surface level identification with the groomer and then you create a vacuum chamber of indoctrination. Humans are social and so much of our ethics and morality is leant through socialisation.

The other weapon Alice uses is division, she finds a wedge issue to drive people into her isolated web. Then of course there is complicity. Once you commit an act or deed on behalf of the leader or gang it’s hard to challenge that behaviour. You have to believe in it or face your own demons. Alice isn’t just destroying the lives of her victims. She is doing it to the people she has groomed into her thankfully little gang. It isn’t easy for them to wake up to that and confront it or her pack of attack dogs.

There is another related but separate issue at play in the long sad saga of what were always Ioan’s fans. That is their own need for a connection of any kind and to be part of their adored one’s life. A life they see in fantasy terms and therefore cannot accept any behaviour outside that fantasy. We see this all the time with fans being unwilling to accept a new partner. This turns to hate and vitriol for the star and their partner. It works the other way in that they don’t accept the split of celebrity couple.
You put that so much better than I did. ❤ Acceptance is our most fundamental need, rejection is our biggest and most primal fear. Grooming works on such subtle, psychological levels, on primal needs and fears we might not even be aware of, and the bitter reality is we can all be susceptible to it.

Alice is a fundamentally damaged human being and she attracts and validates others who are just as damaged. They get into their little echo chamber and what would and should be unacceptable to most becomes the norm for them, something to be celebrated and enjoyed, something that bonds them together even tighter. And outside criticism just makes them even more fanatical and enmeshed into their clique.
 
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lol maybe she could give her crappy nose job instead of her right arm?
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Funny she’s not “you’re”-ing the losers sucking up her ass.
 
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So all this I'm back we're so happy is bullshit?

Lying? Not our Alice, surely?
 
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Can we all spare a thought for Alice's chin that seems to have morphed into a penis 💅
Don't dish it out unless you can take it!!
 
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