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Jess1991

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My mum was an alcoholic. From about the age of 12/13 I saw her completely change from my outgoing, sociable, happy mum to someone who I didn’t even recognise. She and my dad would argue constantly, Christmases and birthdays were ruined and life was pretty awful. I would always forgive her because I knew when she was sober how lovely she was but my sister wanted nothing to do with her. She couldn’t see how it was ruining our lives and carried on despite us all willing to help her. Her and my dad split up, and my sister who’s no longer with us cut contact with her. It was just me who wanted to still have a relationship with my mum as I was only 15 and needed her. She suffered a huge stroke in 2011 and I thought that would be a wake up call after 2 weeks in hospital, but she got home and continued to drink. I slowly gave up as I had a full time job and a boyfriend and I physically didn’t have the strength to see it or go through it anymore. We lost her in 2012, I miss her dreadfully but there would never of been anything I could of done to stop her.

Sorry for the life story but I would just say from my experience to look after yourself most importantly and take care x
 
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LittleLizzy1985

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My dad was my person. He was always a drinker and was told before I was born that he needed to cut down. After he and my mum split up it got worse, he met another woman who was also a drinker and had my brother, they split when my brother was one and there was no stopping him.

In October 2013 he started vomiting and passing huge amounts of blood and was in hospital a few times due to this, he abstained during this time but fell off the wagon in October 2014.

In December 2014 he had to have a shunt fitted which bypassed the liver due to severe cirrhosis and now his bloodstream would filter any toxins - he was warned at this stage 1 more drink would kill him.

He stayed sober for around 3-4 months, although he had no more episodes of bleeding, he had a stroke in December 2015 - 6 years ago today. He was in hospital for 12 weeks as he had post stroke epilepsy and they couldn't stop the seizures. We had a meeting and they explained that he needed end of life care and that we needed to start looking for a nursing home for him - 2 days later he started to perk up and he was home within 2 weeks. Whilst he had right arm weakness and confusion, he was doing well.

He started drinking again in July 2016 and in February 2018 we were told he had stage 4 Oesophageal Cancer which had spread to his Lungs and Lymph Nodes. He died in April 2018.

When he started drinking again following his stroke, I had to take a step back for my own mental health. I knew at this point if a stroke wouldn't stop him nothing would. I would see him early on in the day but I wouldn't ring after 5pm because at that point I knew he would be too drunk to talk to me properly and it upset me.
I went for breakfast in July 2017 with him and I vividly remember him telling me his food wouldn't go down but I didn't think anything of it. Little did I know that this is one of the signs of oesophageal cancer, along with acid reflux which he also had - again didn't think anything of it because he drank so much... I will always wonder if had I have been around more if I would have noticed anything and we could have found the cancers in time, I will never forgive myself for that.

The only positive in my dad's passing is that he is no longer in mental or physical pain, which I am thankful for everyday no matter how much I miss him.

After my dad died I enrolled in college to do an access course, I am now a student nurse and when I qualify I want to train to be an alcohol liaison nurse. If I can help just one person or family then I know my dad's life wasnt taken in vain.

Reading these posts breaks my heart, seeing just a tiny portion of how many people are affected by alcoholism is devastating and I truly hope each and everyone of you can find peace 🖤
 
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Gembo

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I generally feel my relationship with alcohol is ok. I did binge drink in my late teens early 20’s on nights out, nothing that I was ever worried about. Generally speaking now I only drink a couple of times a year like for a birthday or Christmas but can mostly take it or leave it. However I’ve struggled in lockdown and have drunk a lot more than I usually would, I pretty much never drink at home in usual circumstances, but I have drunk as a way to numb myself the last couple of months. I’m totally aware that this is not a good thing and I’m making a massive effort to stop. So probably to sum up I’ve always had a healthy/normal relationship with alcohol until recently but I’m getting back on top of that. I do worry long term though, I think the risk is there so I will have to be very careful.
 
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Annie101

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I loved the movie "when a man loves a woman", where Meg Ryan was an alcoholic, was in recovery and yet their relationship ended. I thought that was sad because there was so much love. Now that i am married to an alcoholic in recovery, i totally understand. For years i found empty or half bottles of alcohol hidden in the house. I would receive i text while i am at work from him, saying he has a headache so he is taking a nap, i must not wake him when i got home from work. I believed him. Reality was he was drunk and slept it off. When i found the bottles he lied to me and said - oh you must have overlooked that when you were cleaning, that is still from the last dinner party we had. And i am SO resentful of lies upon lies, and even in recovery he still hasnt apologized or acknowledged the fact that he lied to me. I thought i am the crazy one, he made me feel like the crazy one. How and when do i trust him again, when i can look me straight in the eye and talk the crap that he did. Now i know why a marriage can come to an end, and the pathetic part is that i am too scared to leave because that will make him start drinking again.
 
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Thank you everyone for sharing your stories, it has been a real comfort to me to finally find some people who get it!
My Dad was a functioning alcoholic, like other people have mentioned here he held down a good job but was easily drinking 1-2 bottles of wine each weeknight and then god knows how much over a weekend when he would sit up all night drinking and sleep all day. This only really started in my teens although there is a real culture of heavy drinking in my extended family so even as a child I would frequently be at families parties and see relatives really drunk...it’s only as an adult I realise that’s not everyone’s experience! My relationship with my Dad was horrific due to his drinking. He was a vile, nasty and vicious drunk & although he never hit me or my Mum we lived in the atmosphere that he could at any minute. I remember so vividly as a young teenager listening to my parents arguing downstairs& genuinely fearing he would just stab my mum or something at any minute. I’m not sure if anyone else has experience that it has tainted your relationship with the non alcoholics in your life? As an older teen/young adult I felt I resented my mum for not standing up to him/leaving him. He would never admit he had a problem & I always said to my mum he would either die or become seriously unwell and she’d be stuck being his carer. Lo and behold when I was 26 he had a massive brain haemorrhage and nearly died. He was in hospital for 11 months and my mum is now his full time carer. It resonated with me so much to hear people say they wish their person was dead. I’ve never admitted it but I wish he hadn’t survived & I feel nothing for him. I’m civil when I see him & tell him I love him to make him feel better but in reality I feel nothing for him. My coping mechanism was to move 150 miles away 😂 I have built my own life which I’m really proud of, and I do visit home and have a good relationship with my Mum but I can’t be physically involved in their day to day life for my own mental health & I also dread family gatherings where alcohol will be involved. It’s taken me a long time but I’ve mostly come to terms with not having a relationship with him, it’s too late. My dad still drinks as my mum feels he has lost control over everything else in his life so allows him the odd drink - which we massively disagree on. And he will still try to sneak drunk etc but definitely less reliant than pre brain haemorrhage. I still get the sharp end of his tongue when he’s had a drink though & that reminds me why I have to distance myself!
phew that’s an essay but it feels so good to offload to people who understand!
 
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AnderbeauJohnson

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Thank you everyone for posting your stories, they've really made me feel like I'm not alone for the first time in years.

I've been told my whole life that I'm not allowed to talk about my family to anyone and it would make me an evil person but I've been under so much stress that I'm going to write my thoughts down and if it's traced back to me and I lose them then that's how it is. Otherwise I feel like I could crumble.

My person(s) are my parents. I'm 99% sure my mum is an alcoholic and I'm not sure if I'd classify my dad as alcohol dependent or just a habitual drinker (he has drunk every single night for decades - probably since I was born - but usually in moderate amounts - more on a non-work night - and he has a home breathalyser so if it's a work-night he stops in-time to be under the limit for when he commutes in the morning.)

My mum had a bad upbringing and both of them suffered intense trauma before I was born that they've never recovered from. My dad has always drunk but I never noticed it as a problem when I was a kid. My mum swears that she never drunk a single alcoholic drink when my sister and I were kids but I remember that we used to have a bottle of cider always in a cupboard. I mentioned it to my mum recently and she said it was my dad's and that she never had a drop but I feel like she did and she's lying to me but I can't remember enough to know if she's telling the truth. I've also got a couple of photos of her with me when I'm young and she has the 'drunk' look on her face that I've seen so many times now.

When I was in my early teens (almost 20 years ago) she had a massive breakdown and attempted suicide and I pretty much became her mental health carer. She started on anti-depressants but she's admitted to me that they don't work but she doesn't want to try any others in case they work less. Both of my parents believe that therapy is morally wrong and so she's never got any more help. She had to leave work on medical grounds and hasn't worked since.

I remember being in my late-teens and I know she didn't drink then. My nana would encourage her to "just have one" whenever she went out with us and, when I was around 21, she did have "just one" and things spiralled from there.

I finally managed to move out when I was 22 and she wasn't an alcoholic at that point. I noticed that she was getting drunk more often though and when I was 24 I realised that it was becoming a real problem. I'm 34 now and it's only got worse since.

I haven't seen her since before lockdown one but the last time I saw her she was in an absolute state. She gets drunk every single day. A 'light day' consists of a bottle of wine and four cans of cider. A very bad day can be two bottles of wine and six cans and a couple of cocktails or even more. Her drinking has slowly gone from 'drunk by 9pm every day' up to now 'drunk by 4pm every day' and it's only climbing earlier. She says that it's fine because she "goes to bed early" but she only goes to bed because she's too drunk to stay awake. Both of them say that they can't sleep unless they drink or they have nightmares about their traumatic experience so they're both self-medicating with alcohol to an extent.

I've lost count of the amount of times she's burned her hands and arms trying to fill up a hot water bottle and then not noticed until the next morning. She can't feed herself when she's drunk, she just lies her head on the table and pours the food partly into her mouth. She can't stand up either, she crawls around the floor like a two-year-old and can barely talk, just mumbles unintelligibly. She'll eventually throw a tantrum and then my dad will 'put her to bed' where she crawls up the stairs and then lies in bed eating chocolate (one day I'm sure she'll choke on it and that will probably be the end of her. She's choked on food when drunk many times already).

She has severe memory loss when she drinks. I came out as a lesbian in Oct 2019 (I waited so long because I knew my parents wouldn't be happy and I didn't want to upset them) and when she's sober she's 'fine' with it but I've had so many phone calls from her telling me how awful I am for choosing to be gay and how much I've upset her and how she wants to have a proper daughter and how I'm doing this to spite her and that if I loved her I'd be straight and so many horrible things. Then she doesn't remember that she's said them and when I tell her she says "no, I wouldn't say that, I'm fine with it."

I'm not allowed to be upset with her. If she does something to upset me I have to forgive her straight away otherwise she'll start to panic and says her depression will get worse because of me. It doesn't matter what she's done, I just have to shrug my shoulders and move on and never mention it again because she's sorry and that should be enough and it isn't fair to blame her for something that she's sorry about.

She lies about how much she drinks. I've banned her multiple times from calling me when drunk and I can tell by her voice when she's been drinking but she'll swear that she hasn't and on the sixth time of asking she'll laugh and say she's only had a couple so it doesn't count. I can't not answer the phone though in case she is actually having a crisis. Then, the next morning, she'll say that she's sorry and I have to forgive her and we go round this merry-go-round again and again and again.

I've lost hope that she'll change. She's starting to be affected physically by the alcohol now. She's the same age as my dad but people assume that they're mother and son. They're in their sixties but she looks 85-90. She won't leave the house, even pre-covid she left maybe six times a year. She's forgotten how to drive. She's forgotten how to use money. She's almost completely sedentary at home. She struggles to stand up now, even when sober, and she says it is because of her age but my dad walks 5-8 miles every day in all weather so it isn't her age. She's started to get what she calls 'tired eyes' and I'm struggling to understand what she means but it's something about how they won't stay still? I wouldn't be surprised if there's some kind of neurological damage going on.

I've tried everything. I've tried begging, pleading, ignoring, crying, getting angry, distracting her, bargaining and nothing makes a dent. I told her that she drinks too much and she says "I didn't drink when you were a child so I deserve to drink now" but a) I think that she probably did and b) she obviously wasn't drinking for a reason when I was in my late teens so, considering she's smoked for over 40 years and isn't health-conscious, she must have known not to drink somehow.

I've told her she'll die and she says "that's fine, this is how I want to die." I've told her that her dying affects me and she shrugs her shoulders and says that she's "an adult and can do what she wants". I've shown her photos of people in late stage liver disease/failure and told her that's what is coming and she says "oh well, we've all got to die of something."

I honestly think that she thinks she isn't an alcoholic because she doesn't drink first thing in the morning and she isn't the stereotypical 'homeless drunk on a park bench' but that's exactly where she'd be if my dad wasn't working and able to keep a roof over their heads. She tells me that the amount she drinks isn't a big deal and if I was normal and 'understood how the world works' (I'm currently waiting for an autism evaluation) that I'd understand that she drinks a perfectly normal amount and would stop nagging her when she clearly doesn't have a problem. I've tried to get through to my dad multiple times but he says "that's just how she is" and isn't willing to help them both change.

I honestly feel like it is only a matter of time before she dies, either choking or falling or ending up with liver failure. I feel guilty for thinking it but I hope she dies before my dad does. He has the slightest chance of being able to cope without her but if he goes first she's no chance.

I'm absolutely tee-total after seeing what's happened to her but one of the things that hurts the most is how they both try and push me to drinking when I do see them. I'm always 'ruining the fun' and 'oh just have one' and 'live a little'.

Ever since her breakdown I've felt like I need to be the glue that holds her mental health together. I suffer from my own mental health challenges (I was diagnosed with depression at 14 but my parents forbid me to get treatment and told me I'd be a bad person if I did so I'm only now getting help at 34 after realising that their approach to mental health is not helpful.)

I have felt so much guilt for so long that I haven't been able to fix her but reading this thread has helped me realise that maybe it isn't my job to fix her. I love her, and I'll always be here for her if she wants help but I need to be able to talk about this, I can't let her keep pouring all her trauma into me without being allowed to have a way to let it out. I think when they are open in real life I'll try and go to an al anon meeting - at least one, to see if it helps.

Sorry for the very long post but this has been building up for the past 10 years and it's the first time I've felt able to put my thoughts down. Just for peace of mind - she is an alcoholic right? This isn't normal behaviour / a normal amount of drink that I just think is too much because I don't understand?
 
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Definitelyme

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Ladies, I feel exactly the same. I think I ignored those posts as they didn’t sit well with me, where as I do try and give support to anyone else on this thread. It makes me very cross that so many people here have been here for genuine support at very difficult times, and may people have said they’ve never shared before, and someone can take advantage.
 
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Annie101

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*warning* I'm going to have a small vent.

So, I posted here in December about a situation that was happening in my life. You were all very helpful, thank you.
Except one, who suddenly seemed to change the thread from a support place for people who had alcoholic family members to a literal support thread for alcoholics.

I didn't say anything at the time, I felt it was better to just withdraw but now they have been identified as false I feel I can comment.

I already scrolled rapidly past this persons posts because I don't believe they were genuine but to have them suddenly appear on a help thread and detail it with massively triggering stuff was a problem for me.

I have no right to say what people can and can't post and I know that but sometimes it's so blatantly obvious these people are not real. They did not help me or my situation I requested help with.

I'm not really sure what my point is, sorry. Other that what a piss take and I'm very cross.
I know who you are referring too, i felt the same way. Not to be a Debby Downer - but this little thread of ours was my only safe place to discuss this serious issue. Feel free to chat to on here of DM message me. I am so sorry you felt like this . Big Hug
 
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AlanBanan

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I never posted here but my ma is an alcoholic she’s been clean for 10 years as the doctors said she’ll die if she keeps it up.

But I just found out recently she’s back drinking and that she started drinking again in late July or early August, she keeps going missing for days and isn’t answering her phone to me or her boyfriend. One of her friends who is also an alcoholic told me she was with her for a few days on Thursday and Friday but hasn’t seen her since Saturday morning. She won’t answer the phone to me or anyone else. Her phone turns on every now and then and she sometimes sees my texts on Facebook messenger but she doesn’t respond to them or SMS messages I do be sending her.

I don’t even know if she has all of her medication, she’s a type 1 diabetic with pancreatitis, and she’s prone to having hypo fits if she isn’t eating regularly. She can’t eat fat or can’t eat sugar. I don’t even know what to do. As no one has seen her or they’re covering for her. I’ve been crying my eyes out since Friday because I thought I was well and truly over this part of my life.

I even have been thinking to go to the police and reporting her as missing as her phone is turning off for days and no one knows where she is.
 
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Missmadness

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I have a close family member who is an alcoholic in denial (and has been for as long as I can remember). I certainly won't be alone. I don't want sympathy, but I wanted to enquire about coping mechanisms.

My coping mechanisms have been to distance myself, not to deal with them when drunk - so perhaps matching their denial with my own!

Is anyone else willing to share?
I am one.Its absolutely horrendous.Im sat in the hospital.Scratched my eye .dont know how.
 
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LittleBird

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This thread has been really triggering and I hope you are all okay 💕.

In July, I left my partner of 4.5 years who was a functioning alcoholic. He managed a pub and really didnt see any problem with drinking most evenings of the week so we had to agree how many drinking nights he could have. I would regularly wake up to find hidden bottles of alcohol, my alcohol drank or something broken in the house. Mixing alcohol with weed would leave him in another dimension, turning very nasty.

Lockdown was a real breaking point for me as his addiction to drinking and smoking weed hit tipping point and I was the fun police whilst his friends could spend lockdown trashed and having a good time.

I'm really angry with him because without the beer and weed, he is a great guy. As a result of his addiction, I have sold my lovely home and am having to start all over again. Today he told me he has started Stoptober and hasn't drank or smoked since the 30th September. Whilst I'm so proud of him, I know it will not last (just like it hasn't done before) and it breaks my heart to watch him destroy himself over and over. If I thought this new found behaviour could last, I would run back to him in a heartbeat but i have lost 4 years of my life as a shell. I was scared to tell anyone how bad life had really become and his mum would tell me he worked hard and deserved a drink. I feel that I now have major issues with alcohol and I feel very on edge around drunk people. I am in therapy so hoping to resolve some of these issues but feel like I have sacrificed so much for someone who still doesn't recognise that they have a problem.
 
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Pumpkinpie

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My mum is a functioning alcoholic. The first memory I have of her being drunk was 11 years ago when I was 9 and she fell down the stairs backwards after drinking heavily all afternoon and I had to phone my aunty to come and put me and my then 2 year old brother to bed. She is the most vile person when she’s had a drink, she verbally abused me from around 11 until when I moved out at 17.

Shes so nasty to anyone and everyone, she’ll lie about things and I remember one time she was so drunk and we were arguing and she had a knife and turned around and pretended to stab herself. It was the most traumatic thing I’ve experienced. She lied about me to all my family members and they thought I was the worst person and nasty to my mum for years. She used to walk into my room and just start being nasty for no reason. She drinks around 2-3 bottles of wine on her days off from work. She’s rang me in the morning before around 7 and she’s been drunk already. She lives with my brother and she still makes up lies about me. It’s really hard to deal with because when she hasn’t had a drink she is the best mum and nan to my children.
She’s kind, caring funny but as soon as she’s even had a sip of a drink she’s awful. I grew up with her constantly saying she wanted to die and about 3 years ago she had a breakdown and shaved off all her hair. She really made my mental health suffer for years and I tried to kill myself numerous times when I was 14. I worry for her so much, she won’t admit she’s got a problem even though deep down I know she knows she has. She’s got mental health problems but again won’t receive help for it. She loves my children but I can’t trust her to babysit them.
My grandparents and her brothers and sister have done nothing to help over the years, neither has my dad. He worked away and I basically had to look after myself. I’d come home from school and she’d be drunk. I came home one day and she wasn’t in and I had to sit at my next door neighbours for an hour until we saw her come home, she’d been at the pub and the owners had to carry her into the house. I was so embarrassed that I cried for hours, she won’t even remember that though.
Every birthday I can remember she’s been drunk and ruined, and every Christmas. I’m so glad I don’t spend Christmas with her anymore and I can create new memories because it was always so stressful having her argue with everyone all day and being angry at me when I’d done nothing wrong. I feel like she won’t be here in the next 10 years. She’s 53, I don’t want her to die I just want the alcoholic part of her to die. Sorry for the long post, I don’t get to talk to anyone about this. My partner knows and has seen what she’s like but I’m too embarrassed to bring it up anymore!
 
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Gembo

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I have had the 1 year anniversary of my mums death this week and I just feel devastated. I feel like I’m grieving now how I should have then, I think I was in some kind of shock or denial. Ive spent a lot of time this week beating myself up that I could have and should have done more. I hate alcoholism, it absolutely rips lives to pieces. It feels very hard to know how to move forward and be happy in life knowing that my mum was so unhappy and her death really was like watching a slow suicide. I remember begging her not to drink, telling her she would die, offering to take her to get help and her saying she didn’t care, she’d be dead soon. When she finally did drink herself to the point where they told her she was going to die she sobbed her heart out and shouted because she didn’t want to die. It’s an awful thing to witness and her death was neither quick or peaceful, I watched her suffer.

If there is anyone reading this right now who struggles with their drinking, please please please seek help. It’s not weakness to ask for help, it’s weakness not to.
 
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My husband is a functioning alcoholic, in complete denial. It’s awful. He tells me I’m exaggerating, making the narrative fit my own aims and he’s fine
He drinks minimum 300ml-500ml vodka daily, often more. Mixes drinks. Won’t see any issue with this as holds a very successful job. Feel like no one will ever believe me. Most of time he is fine, drunk but ok but every so often argumentative, horrible and let’s be honest abusive
I feel I’m on a constant merry go round and the worst part is I even doubt myself, am I making a mountain out of a mole hill? Is it me.

I am utterly trapped and it feels like a prison sentence. He really is Jekyll and Hyde
 
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Aliali23

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My dad died this year after downing a bottle of vodka too quickly and posioning himself. I didn't think he was an alcoholic as he could have months of sobriety but then would drink for a week straight, and im still not sure, was it a coping mechanism for MH crisis 🤷‍♀️ but all your stories resonate with me. We used to hunt the house with mum looking for bottles as kids. Sometimes I'd come home from school and he'd be in a pool of blood from having a fall, or I'd be walking home and find him slumped on the pavement or stumbling home after downing vodka or frosty Jack's. The longest he'd been sober was about 4 years. I miss him so much but its also a relief not to be worrying about him all the time. Xx
 
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Annie101

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I've started seeing a recovery coach and it's been life changing. He is on point with the questions he asks me about my upbringing and to understand why I am co - dependant of the alcoholic in my life. Instead of attacking me staying with the alcoholic he gives me tools how to deal with an addict and I must say it's really been helping helping me so much. I see the change in how my husband acts differently towards me as I am getting stronger. I hope this stays a safe place for people to vent without being attacked for not following their advise as each person experience and circumstances are different. Sending love to all.
 
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Wishwash

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I second joining a local Al-anon group. There's lots on zoom and they are beginning to open up their face to face meetings. There is also a group on Facebook. I have found them very supportive and working my Al anon "steps" has really helped me to cope with my husband's alcoholism. It sounds like your coping mechanisms are in line with the tools Al-anon uses so a good start 👍

Good luck. Alcoholism is such a difficult and sad illness.
 
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