Tell that to people living in them for over a decade!
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This. I worked for a company that made a decision to outsource things such as programming and data entry to India rather than hire in the uk. They paid Indians between 4K and 7k a year to do a job that was typically done by uk workers. This doesn’t just remove jobs from the uk but also created a promotions bottleneck- why promote someone or pay someone more to increase responsibility when you can just give most of it to cheap labour. Within 6 months there was a team of 30 in India and as uk staff left, we weren’t allowed to replace them without trying India first. After the pandemic they made 30-50 people redundant- uk people only. And I know it wasn’t/isn’t the only company doing this. It’s not immigrants taking jobs- it’s companies hiring cheap labour elsewhere because like you say- get it done as cheaply as possible.
Has she given an interview to say this? I don't think making up a viewpoint is helpful and doesn't help your argument.
There's no simples answer. It's not uncompassionate to say more refugees isn't a silver bullet. If we accept 100k people will say accept 1m. If we accept 1m people will say accept more. For everyone draining the country it makes it worse for those left behind. Afghanistan isn't the only country where its citizens face extream hardship. What about the other places?
You have no clue who I am or where I was born. Assumptions undermine your valid points.
It's a lot more complicated than that!
No one said refuges were the only ones to commit terrible crimes. But the stats show they're many multiples more likely. The small amount of refugees (or second generation) are responsible for a proportion of terrorist attacks in the western world. Some crimes being done not by refugees does disprove that.
Again it's a lot more complicated than that. Some industries have struggled with migration. Probably only a few percent but both sides either play it up or play it down, but it has existed for some.
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Tbf the UK does have (or had) resettlement schemes for a variety of vulnerable people from a variety of countries
I think the scheme they have for Afghanistan is probably going to collapse or not work as people think it may. The translators and their families left behind will probably never get to see Britain unless they flee the country and that depends on them not being killed first
Do you not think that's generally because 'terrorism' is often reserved for people of a certain nationality or religion these days? This argument just doesn't work for me really because even then, it's a very small amount of people committing terrorist attacks to begin with. Plus, it's more of an issue with the relevant authorities failing to act when they should by the look of things. The signs are all there, people may tell them that they're there, and they get ignored
Additionally, the whole crime statistic is easy to throw around without considering why the crimes may be occurring. Apparently the majority of crimes are theft or robbery (Wikipedia also says that forged documents/fraud is common in the UK) and when you consider how many of these people may struggle to find work or make a decent wage it's not that surprising. grape is probably going to come up from me saying this also, but it's good to consider that 'assault and rape victims are more willing to report these crimes to the police if the perpetrator is perceived as foreign' leading potentially skewed stats in Germany. I imagine the general anti-refugee dialogue in many countries also doesn't help that
why else do you think a mother would hand over her child? And risk her own life in the process?
And yes the housing situation is more complicated than being caused by "right to buy" but you cannot claim it hasn't had a massive impact on social housing. And that is exactly what Thatcher intended.
Everywhere I go in London there is luxury flats being built. I went to Croydon recently and there are hundreds going up. Where is the affordable housing for people who work in low paid jobs in the city?
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I like Carol Malone.
Feel so helpless and sad for the innocent people of Afghanistan.
I like Carol Malone.
Feel so helpless and sad for the innocent people of Afghanistan.
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Ok fair enough, I don’t know where you were born, but given your lack of empathy to support helping people fleeing a war zone it’s fair to assume you weren’t born in a similar situation to them.
It’s fairly clear to see why these mothers are handing over their babies, we don’t need an interview to back that up. A picture speaks a thousand words.
Refugees in the U.K. don’t even make up 1% of the U.K. population so your points on how many we will accept are invalid.
Maybe he's got around the cognitive ability you'd expect for someone of his age? Although he didn't inspire much confidence when he was younger. Say what you like about Nancy pelosi or trump, they did at least seem awake!
I wonder why Harris is staying quiet? To let Biden cut off his own legs and be disconnected from that mess?
The US have apparently stopped processing anyone at the airport. And will just be sending cars to people in the city they want to evacuate. By far their behaviour has been the worst, what an embarrassment.
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OT I worked in an industry that deals with building projects in London a few years ago, the rules about building "affordable houseing" are so easy to get around it is such a scam. I cannot remember the exact stats but for every block of flats built a certain % (this is only in London) has to be afforable 1.) £100,000s is hardly what you would describe as affordable 2.) they can actually avoid building any affordable flats at all if they provide another "service" for the community, i.e. a gym that they could get membership for/space for shops etc
Best ask labour run Croydon Council that question. What they've done to Croydon is an absolute disgrace, the council is bankrupt, got a lovely new office building though.
Too many do gooders without a grip on reality. It's not our fault that despite two decades of training and state of the art equipment the natives ran at the first chance of bother and didn't fight for their country.
Would love to see you take on the Taliban.
If evil were trying to take over the UK and us young men had two decades of training, state of the art equipment and billions spent to help us we would do just fine at protecting our homeland like our war heroes did from the Nazis.
It's disgusting how easily they gave up and then the cheek to try and escape on planes to leave behind women who are far more vulnerable in a country where they stupidly decided to get pregnant and bring poor children in to an awful life.
What a lot of hateful racist tit.
from what I have read and from people who did tours there, the training very much didn't seem to be that great, as people have said 20 years seems like a lot but in hte context of rebuilding a country it really isn't
Twenty years training. Billions spent on planes, tanks, equipment etc. It's more than long enough to train up a capable army of say a million to protect themselves. We cannot keep spending cash we don't have to piss off other cultures by trying to police the world.
You clearly don’t have a clue the type of training they had or about anything you’re talking about. Your claims are so beyond wild it’s obvious you don’t know any of the detail in it all.
Some Americans training the Afghans didn’t have much faith in them preventing a Taliban take over.
What happened between us the Nazi’s was different, not every war is comparable to WW1 and 2. For instance our soldiers had the support of their government, monarch and people. In Afghanistan they didn’t, why should they fight and risk their life if even your Prime Minister doesn’t believe in the cause?
Maybe the training was actually not very good?
The Taliban never went away during the 20 years forces were there. They continued to exist. It is therefore not comparable to WW2 when
A) the nazis didnt live in England
B) they never arrived in England, partly because we are an Island so harder to invade
C) you are talking about something you think would have happened i.e British troops defeating Nazis in the UK when that actually is a fictional situation