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Has Joe overslept again? Late for his latest conference.

It would be hard to be more incompetent than he did on the last two, but not doubting he'll lower the bar again!
Fifty minutes late to a list of pre approved list of reporters! You couldn’t make it up.
 
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Honestly at least Biden is making some sort of statements, even if they're late

Where's Boris in all of this?
 
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What some also need to grasp is that the UK cannot house and resettle all the world's 'hard done by'. There is a limit to how many can be taken, for which successive Governments and bleeding hard leftists don't seem to understand.

Many would likely be more sympathetic to taking 20,000 (vetted) Afghans in, if it wasn't for the fact that hundreds already illegally enter the country on a weekly basis via the south coast. With estimates predicting well over 20k doing so by the end of 2021. It is estimated that over 1 million illegals now reside in the UK, plus a couple of hundred thousand refugees and Asylum Seekers on top.
Completely agree. We have plenty of our own people who are struggling and have mental health issues, and people can come over on boats and dinghies or be allowed over from Afghanistan and what lefties don't realise is this is a huge drain on our system. We are an island and are struggling as it is because migration has gone up in the past 10yrs. By the way, I do believe that interpreters and people who helped our army and America's army and other armies should get help to come over here, and I'm all for that. But we spent many yrs and lots of time and money training the Afghan locals up for them to give up straight away and not even try and fight for their country. Many flee and leave their wives and children behind, if you have a look at the pictures when boats arrive at Dover or on our beaches, they are mostly men with gun tattoos on their hand and smiling with decent clothes and the latest phones. Boris also said that Hong Kong refugees were allowed over and he'll be letting them come. We all wonder why our country is stretched and doctors and NHS wait times are taking so long with inflation. Everyone says "f*k the Tories", and whilst yes they are also at fault, all of this immigration doesn't help us long term. Tories are allowing all this migration as there would be hell if they said no from lefties and they're cowards. There are over 100 countries in the world that could also help, we always are helping out. People wonder why Brexit was voted so high and Reform UK got so many votes in the last election - people are secretly fed up and have had enough of being called "racist" for speaking up asking why they aren't getting help from their own country and government but people come over from boats and dinghies and the taxpayer is paying for their 5* hotel stay and food and they still moan it isn't good enough. Remember that refugee in Glasgow who went around stabbing people last year? So greatful he was to get help off of us.... These people are coming over and we are doing no checks on who they really are, and if any of them are dangerous criminals. SOME, not all could be violent dangerous criminals. Remember the r*pist who was supposed to be deported on the plane back to his country and everyone stopped him from being deported as they thought he was a poor innocent refugee? All of these people coming over daily put a drain on the country for real people in need like some of the Afghan nationals.

Lefties are quick to blame the tories and everything being their fault, whilst Boris and co are far from perfect, Tony Blair is responsible for a lot of this who was under Labour but they go quiet and think money grows on trees and we have houses after houses free and an unlimited money bucket for our NHS and country. Of course, it's easier to blame mophead.


Let's not forget that many many men lost their lives, injuries or PTSD and have died for nothing. Other men went to war and still live with their PTSD and witnessing horrendous things happen to their colleagues and in Afghanistan as a whole and they've been pushed to the side from day one and not received any help. They're on the streets struggling, or fighting a battle with their PTSD every single day, they went to war for us, some being young lads at just 18. Makes me so angry that to defend them and say what about them is racist and selfish, why do they not matter in all this? They went to war for our country and were brave men, and not all soldiers did bad things over there. We didn't just "blow up their country", we fought against their enemy which is what their men should be doing for their families instead of running away, we did help families in need and even had volunteers come over, we looked after the locals and fought for their rights, too. America was the country that chose to go to war over 9/11, they are a much bigger country... where's their help in all this? It's always the UK who has to help. Please don't moan next time you're waiting for NHS and doctors appointments, or when a loved one is waiting for years and years for a home when migrants can come over and be housed much quicker than our own. I bet this comment won't stay up as it doesn't fit the agenda and would cause offence, but it's about time we looked at the problems immigration cause.
 
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What a ridiculous statement.

Many other countries around the world are taking in refugees, even poorer countries are taking and helping refugees. The U.K. has a very small percent in the grand scheme of things.

A few criminals happen to be refugees doesn’t mean all refugees happen to be criminals. I could name you anecdotal crimes that British people have also committed, doesn’t mean all British people should be shunned. It’s impossible to do a background check on people fleeing a war zone in a crisis. Do you think the taliban are going to provide the paperwork?

this isn’t about picking to “help our own” over them, it’s possible to support both they have different needs. Whether we help refugees or not won’t strengthen our ability to help others. Homeless people are given a wealth of support, I know this because I’ve volunteered to help them for months out on the front line, have you? Many of them don’t want a home. They are content to live on the streets where they feel safe believe it or not. It’s very complex. Many of them suffer drug addiction and don’t want help to get off the drugs they sadly aren’t ready or prepared for medical intervention which is a must in these circumstances if cannot be forced it must come from the person with the addiction to commit to it to make meaningful change.

All lives matter until they’re a refugee, ey!

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During covid they said one death is one death too many.
History has proved time and time again that the small percentage of terrorists slipping thought the net with refugees kills innocent people. How many innocent people over here being killed is worth it?
we can't take all the people from all the countries with bad human rights, there's many more countries than just Afghanistan - it's tip of iceberg.
other countries have taken more but lots of these stick them in a tent and give one tap for 10'000 people.
Draining the smartest and most able people from the country ensures they'll carry on being ducked up for a long time.

even poorer countries are taking and helping refugee
And they treat them like sub humans
 
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Have you evidence of this? Quite an allegation
Australia - you can google UN criticising them for their historic treatment of refugees, especially off shoring them in sub standard conditions. Now they say they will prioritise afghans who already have family in aus. All afghans seeking refuge are a priority!!!

Anyone aware of the way Australia treat the indigenous people will not be surprised at their disdain for refugees.
 
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Really recommend watching this, trigger warning it's not easygoing! Watched last night and still thinking about the bit about ghosts haunting people, and the bit with the urinal art😐.




I’ll link you to this because I’m too lazy this night to type out 😭 did anyone catch his interview with ABC that was aired yesterday 😮 tonight’s is up on YouTube if you’d rather watch.

Just terrible! Osama bin Laden does seem to be on the money with wanting him to be the president. The way he does that smirk then trys to be smart, I don't think it's working for him. Making Boris Johnson look so much more credible with how he's handled it, quite an achievement!

Biden saying Afghanistan is the graveyard of many empires when that's often called a mistruth and the British and Soviet empires were on their way out anyway.
 
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It is worth noting that a lot of refugee camps function as a place for refugees who come to a country illegally, so Afghan nationals who get here legally probably won’t have to experience them
 
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I gave you the right term to Google because you didn't seem aware of the terrible way refugees are treated by countries you were praising 💁‍♀️
I do know about refugee camps though. They are intended as temporary. Not a permanent solution. However the point I was making was the U.K. take on a very small percentage of refugees when compared with many other countries who also support refugees, whether someone agrees with how they’re supported is another matter but the opinions posted here where untrue, when they said “There are over 100 countries in the world that could also help, we always are helping out.” And “ It's always the UK who has to help.” . When in fact the U.K. aren’t the only country helping. Every country should be helping innocent babies women and men fleeing from a war zone, what is wrong with humanity. We look at the images of mothers handing their babies the soldiers in an attempt to get them to a safer country, how desperate would a mother be to hand over her baby to people she doesn’t even know? Because she is certain that her baby has no life in Afghan. That’s why. Have some compassion. You are incredibly lucky that you are born in a country where healthcare and human rights is the norm. These people aren’t so lucky.
 
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Is Biden ok? I know he struggles with a stutter and can trip over words but these talks and interview he has done, well he’s not coming off well.
 
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Yeah, given £5.66 a day to live on until their application is processed which can take a long time, arrive with the clothes on their backs,
Completely agree. We have plenty of our own people who are struggling and have mental health issues, and people can come over on boats and dinghies or be allowed over from Afghanistan and what lefties don't realise is this is a huge drain on our system. We are an island and are struggling as it is because migration has gone up in the past 10yrs. By the way, I do believe that interpreters and people who helped our army and America's army and other armies should get help to come over here, and I'm all for that. But we spent many yrs and lots of time and money training the Afghan locals up for them to give up straight away and not even try and fight for their country. Many flee and leave their wives and children behind, if you have a look at the pictures when boats arrive at Dover or on our beaches, they are mostly men with gun tattoos on their hand and smiling with decent clothes and the latest phones. Boris also said that Hong Kong refugees were allowed over and he'll be letting them come. We all wonder why our country is stretched and doctors and NHS wait times are taking so long with inflation. Everyone says "f*k the Tories", and whilst yes they are also at fault, all of this immigration doesn't help us long term. Tories are allowing all this migration as there would be hell if they said no from lefties and they're cowards. There are over 100 countries in the world that could also help, we always are helping out. People wonder why Brexit was voted so high and Reform UK got so many votes in the last election - people are secretly fed up and have had enough of being called "racist" for speaking up asking why they aren't getting help from their own country and government but people come over from boats and dinghies and the taxpayer is paying for their 5* hotel stay and food and they still moan it isn't good enough. Remember that refugee in Glasgow who went around stabbing people last year? So greatful he was to get help off of us.... These people are coming over and we are doing no checks on who they really are, and if any of them are dangerous criminals. SOME, not all could be violent dangerous criminals. Remember the r*pist who was supposed to be deported on the plane back to his country and everyone stopped him from being deported as they thought he was a poor innocent refugee? All of these people coming over daily put a drain on the country for real people in need like some of the Afghan nationals.

Lefties are quick to blame the tories and everything being their fault, whilst Boris and co are far from perfect, Tony Blair is responsible for a lot of this who was under Labour but they go quiet and think money grows on trees and we have houses after houses free and an unlimited money bucket for our NHS and country. Of course, it's easier to blame mophead.


Let's not forget that many many men lost their lives, injuries or PTSD and have died for nothing. Other men went to war and still live with their PTSD and witnessing horrendous things happen to their colleagues and in Afghanistan as a whole and they've been pushed to the side from day one and not received any help. They're on the streets struggling, or fighting a battle with their PTSD every single day, they went to war for us, some being young lads at just 18. Makes me so angry that to defend them and say what about them is racist and selfish, why do they not matter in all this? They went to war for our country and were brave men, and not all soldiers did bad things over there. We didn't just "blow up their country", we fought against their enemy which is what their men should be doing for their families instead of running away, we did help families in need and even had volunteers come over, we looked after the locals and fought for their rights, too. America was the country that chose to go to war over 9/11, they are a much bigger country... where's their help in all this? It's always the UK who has to help. Please don't moan next time you're waiting for NHS and doctors appointments, or when a loved one is waiting for years and years for a home when migrants can come over and be housed much quicker than our own. I bet this comment won't stay up as it doesn't fit the agenda and would cause offence, but it's about time we looked at the problems immigration cause.
The housing crisis in the UK was caused mainly by Thatchers Right To Buy. The lack of housing is because she sold off homes, or allowed people to sell them off and profit from it.

The lack of resources we are seeing in the UK now is the result of 10 years of Tory austerity, nothing to do with the Labour Government. The years under Cameron et saw some of the worst poverty ever in the UK

Brexit was built on a lie, people voted for things that they were told were fact that later turned out to be innaccurate.
Lots of communities in the North did this as they had been struggling for decades with unemployment and a completely decimated community, and who did that to them.... THATCHER!! Shut the mines, didnt she? Main source of employment for thousands of people
This viewpoint that immigrants then arrived and took jobs meant for British peoples is also RIDICULOUS!
If an employer chooses to employ an immigrant over a Brit then thats the fault of the employer. Ask yourself why they might want to employ someone who works a bit harder, or for a bit cheaper. The answer is Capitalism - get something done as cheaply as possible for as much profit, every man for themselves etc. Who loved that idea?? THATCHER!

People smiling when they arrive on a boat? I would be smiling if I had got to safety having been on a dinghy on the British Channel. How ridiculous to say someone's intentions are bad because they smile.

Refuges being responsible for terrible crimes?
Are we forgetting women being murdered by British off duty police officers whilst they are walking home?
Are we forgetting Plymouth?

I sincerely hope you never find yourself in a situation where you might need some help from an immigrant
 
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