I remember a few years ago, Ruby's blog from probably around 10 years ago was found. I wish I remembered the name of her blog, I know it had a fruit in it, like lemons/peaches/apricots, something like that. Anyway, one of her entries on it was all about how Kevin had spent an entire day "disciplining" the kids (physical) for their behaviour the day before. I felt sick to my stomach reading it and can't for the life of me find it now. But it shows they have both been abusing these poor kids for years.